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T2Kplus20

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Bought ORCL and VIAC, cause I'm a big value guy now. Still looking at NAVI.
Lots of tech value out there. Bloomberg this morning was talking about how "quality" is under-priced right now. Companies, especially in tech, that are crushing revenue and profit are caught in the middle.....not traditional value or super sexy spec tech.

Go shopping! LOL.
 

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Charging stations jumping today I guess because of the Biden speech?

Blnk up 12ish%
Chpt up 20%

Solar up.

QS up.

MVIS up 50% not sure why there.
 

T2Kplus20

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Charging stations jumping today I guess because of the Biden speech?

Blnk up 12ish%
Chpt up 20%

Solar up.

QS up.

MVIS up 50% not sure why there.
They will come back down, the reality never matches the hype with legislation. Still can be good long plays.
 

RU05

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There was another SPAC snafu.

Romeo Power which had been forecasting sales in the $400 million range revised those #'s a bit, now forecasting sales somewhere in the $40-$140 range.

Forgive me on some details here if they are not 100% accurate, but given the subject matter I figure I had some leeway.
 
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They will come back down, the reality never matches the hype with legislation. Still can be good long plays.
Checked the news on QS, and as it turns out, they jumped in after hours on the news that they met a technical milestone which triggers an additional $100 mil investment from VW.

This is for sure though, QS has developed a range. $42 on the low side, $60ish up top.
 

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Mike Khouw on CNBC noted some big options contracts for CRM $175 puts dated for June 2022. Currently trading at $211.

Just one bet, but potentially signaling that some of these high flyers that have trended downward still have a fair amount more to give back?
 
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Mike Khouw on CNBC noted some big options contracts for CRM $175 puts dated for June 2022. Currently trading at $211.

Just one bet, but potentially signaling that some of these high flyers that have trended downward still have a fair amount more to give back?
Not a good bet. CRM is way undervalued:

Good Quarter With a Guidance Raise Underscore Salesforce.com’s Strong Position; FVE up to $265

Dan Romanoff
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Analyst Note | Updated Feb 25, 2021
Wide-moat Salesforce reported solid fiscal fourth-quarter results, including upside to both revenue and non-GAAP EPS expectations. The company’s first-quarter revenue guidance was solid and we’re pleased to see the firm raise its full-year revenue target. We think Salesforce’s results are generally consistent with software peers who are experiencing robust demand arising from the need to accelerate the broad digital transformation efforts that were already underway. Deal sizes continue to grow larger as conversations are increasingly about digital transformation of a customer’s entire organization rather than just a specific area. Customers remain focused on the post-pandemic operating environment and want flexibility, which reinforces the rationale for the Slack acquisition.

We are raising our fair value estimate to $265 per share, from $253, based on rolling our forecast and the solid near-term results and guidance. With the recent pullback, we think shares are undervalued.

Revenue grew 20% year over year to $5.817 billion, which blew through both our above-consensus estimate and guidance. Both sales and service clouds were in line with our model, while both platform and other, along with marketing and commerce cloud, were nicely ahead. Demand remains strong on all fronts and attrition remains better than management anticipated. Billings grew 22% year over year, while current remaining performance obligation, or CRPO, grew 20% year over year, both of which were in line with or better than revenue growth, which is an improvement from last quarter and a positive indicator for revenue growth.

Non-GAAP operating margin was strong at 17.5%, compared with 15.4% a year ago and our slightly below-consensus model at 16.5%. Revenue strength and slightly lower operating expenses drove better than expected margins. We view results as consistent with long-term margin expansion by at least 100 basis points annually.
 

RU05

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Of course they are jumping in. There is money to be made. You think GS didn’t UW and take public any dot com companies? Bigger news if any of these companies take a position like TSLA.
Point is crypto is becoming more and more accepted, more and more accessible.
 

Jtung230

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Point is crypto is becoming more and more accepted, more and more accessible.
Crypto is more accepted as an asset. It’s chance of being currency is dwindling. Of course more companies are willing to charge fees to buy and sell it. But remember the thesis for it to takeoff from CW was that if most companies allocate cash reserves to buy Bitcoin ( a la TSLA). Why would companies do that if it’s not currency?
 

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Crypto is more accepted as an asset. It’s chance of being currency is dwindling. Of course more companies are willing to charge fees to buy and sell it. But remember the thesis for it to takeoff from CW was that if most companies allocate cash reserves to buy Bitcoin ( a la TSLA). Why would companies do that if it’s not currency?
Let's assume that it being more accepted as an asset is all that we will ever get, that alone continues the drive higher.
 

T2Kplus20

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Crypto is more accepted as an asset. It’s chance of being currency is dwindling. Of course more companies are willing to charge fees to buy and sell it. But remember the thesis for it to takeoff from CW was that if most companies allocate cash reserves to buy Bitcoin ( a la TSLA). Why would companies do that if it’s not currency?
Investors want BTC and other cryptos. Prices go up. Pretty simple. Nobody cares about it being a "currency". Stable coins can serve that purpose, if needed.
 

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CHPT, QS continuing to jump this morning.


Greens across the big boards with the Nasdaq leading the way.
 
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MS is very conservative, which I like and has an important place with research. However, they don't account for true innovation and disruption well.

ARK's goal is to double every 5 years. That's reasonable. Any belief that they will grow at 100%+ over the next 12 months again is silly (even to CW and the ARK team).
 

T2Kplus20

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CHPT, QS continuing to jump this morning.

Greens across the big boards with the Nasdaq leading the way.
Yesterday was a great day. Not only was tech up. but it was up while bond yields were up. That's a good sign. Yields are current down 4 basis points.....let's see what happens!

Also, global markets strong today.
 

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So I was down for the month of March. .38% so not drastic, but still lagging all the majors including the R2K, and my fist down month Sept.

Took the opportunity to rotate out of the high flyers, and into more established companies with stable earnings.

Though I am seeing some of those high flyers run again, so I might sell some of those cheap stocks with flat earnings and nice dividends to see if I can get in on these latest moves.
 

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Yesterday was a great day. Not only was tech up. but it was up while bond yields were up. That's a good sign. Yields are current down 4 basis points.....let's see what happens!

Also, global markets strong today.
I was actually watching Bloomberg Asia's market opening last night and saw that the Asian markets were up. I think Korea was up 1%.
 

Jtung230

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MS is very conservative, which I like and has an important place with research. However, they don't account for true innovation and disruption well.

ARK's goal is to double every 5 years. That's reasonable. Any belief that they will grow at 100%+ over the next 12 months again is silly (even to CW and the ARK team).
Based on your prior posts, MS is your bible to investing. But if it doesn’t suit your narrative, you find a way to discount it. That’s the human flaw of investing.
 

T2Kplus20

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Based on your prior posts, MS is your bible to investing. But if it doesn’t suit your narrative, you find a way to discount it. That’s the human flaw of investing.
Stupid comment. No source is perfect, you need to know the strengths and weaknesses of what you use. Love MS. but in my opinion their models don't fully factor in innovation. It is a great foundation, yet conservative. My holy grail is when I see an innovative company that MS has at or before FMV.....BOOM, best of both worlds. MS and ARK align. :)
 

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Stupid comment. No source is perfect, you need to know the strengths and weaknesses of what you use. Love MS. but in my opinion their models don't fully factor in innovation. It is a great foundation, yet conservative. My holy grail is when I see an innovative company that MS has at or before FMV.....BOOM, best of both worlds. MS and ARK align. :)
Funny, because you continuously uses MS to pump Amazon and other tech companies. These are the same innovative companies CW invest in. You don’t have to be defensive. This is all part of human behavior in investing. Everyone is guilty of it.
 

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Funny, because you continuously uses MS to pump Amazon and other tech companies. These are the same innovative companies CW invest in. You don’t have to be defensive. This is all part of human behavior in investing. Everyone is guilty of it.
Yes, when tech companies are at FMV on MS you know you have a super winner, cream of the crop. You are not making sense.
 
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Apple using TSLA batteries for it's energy storage at it's CA solar farm.

TSLA only up a little on the news at this point, so perhaps this idea of TSLA's batteries being used for energy storage is already baked in, but these off shoots, aside from the cars themselves is certainly part of the bull case.

Apple to Use Tesla Batteries to Store Solar Energy: Report (businessinsider.com)
It's a no brainer. Solar + battery storage OR Wind + battery storage is the cheapest form of energy right now.
Expect more and more of these projects to be announced.

Unfortunately, Tesla remains battery constrained, and will be for the foreseeable future.
Good news is, in addition to producing their own cells, Tesla's main suppliers (CATL, LG, and Panasonic), are also going balls to the wall to scale production. LG and Panasonic will be producing Tesla's 4680 form factor and CATL is forecasting 1.5 terawatt hours of LFP(lithium, iron, phosphate) by 2025 to be used in Tesla Shanghai. So, more good news.... the world's 3 biggest battery producers all have Tesla as their main client.
IMO, the future of Tesla is riding on these new 4680 cells, and how fast they, and their suppliers can scale production. It's definitely something to keep an eye on.
 
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It's a no brainer. Solar + battery storage OR Wind + battery storage is the cheapest form of energy right now.
Expect more and more of these projects to be announced.

Unfortunately, Tesla remains battery constrained, and will be for the foreseeable future.
Good news is, in addition to producing their own cells, Tesla's main suppliers (CATL, LG, and Panasonic), are also going balls to the wall to scale production. LG and Panasonic will be producing Tesla's 4680 form factor and CATL is forecasting 1.5 terawatt hours of LFP(lithium, iron, phosphate) by 2025 to be used in Tesla Shanghai. So, more good news.... the world's 3 biggest battery producers all have Tesla as their main client.
IMO, the future of Tesla is riding on these new 4680 cells, and how fast they, and their suppliers can scale production. It's definitely something to keep an eye on.
It’s cheapest to run but setup costs negates all the savings. For a business, it might be different because of tax purposes.
 

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Heard an interesting potential use of blockchain tech today on Fastmoney today.

Say there is a concert, and one of the buyers of the tickets is a scalper. The original ticket is for $20, and the scalper sells it for $100. By use of the blockchain they could make it so a certain % of that resale goes to the artist.

As I don't have a great understanding of blockchain of how it would be used in real world scenarios, I thought this provided a pretty clear scenario as to how it could be use in commercial applications

The use cases of blockchain technology re going to grow exponentially in the next few years.

Another Fastmoney tidbit from today was the Facebook is likely or planning to come out with it's own crypto currency.

A little google search shows it's not exactly new news, but it is news to me.

Facebook hopes the cryptocurrency it backs will launch in 2021 (cnbc.com)

Ya, their Libra project has been started and stopped multiple times. It lost other tech investors, PayPal being one of them. It was rebranded to Diem last year and has been meddling. Looks to be nothing more than a stable coin. Not sure what it is going to be pegged to just yet, but the lack of updates on it and prior hiccups make this project very ho hum in the crypto space.

Crypto is more accepted as an asset. It’s chance of being currency is dwindling.

This couldnt be any further from the truth or reality. Crypto is going nowhere, and you will see countries creating their own Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC). It's already begun and will begin to expand exponentially until there is a universally accepted digital coin as a global currency, just as the Dollar is essentially the global fiat currency. My guess right now is Stellar XLM becomes that global currency. <-- that is a mildy researched guess.

The initial quote I quoted on here essentially sums up crypto. The use cases are going to grow and grow. You're already seeing it with NFT's. (short term bubble, but long term play as theyre not going anywhere)

I equate crypto, BTC and blockchain to the time period of 2006 - 2010. In 06, mobile was dominated by Blackberry. Enter the iPhone during the summer of '07. The tech and idea of the iPhone upended technology and mobile devices. Without the invention of the iphone, massive companies like Uber, Lyft, Tiktok, Twitter, Insta, TInder, etc would not exist. I think 50+ billion of mobile app revenue was brought in during Q4.

The next 3 or 4 years post-iphone saw a new wave of technology and growth. That is where we are right now with crypto and blockchain. The last 3 years have been spent proving viability and gaining institutional support. Now here we are. Remember that first time a friend told you about Uber and you had a wtf moment? Yeah, thats what's happening in the crypto space. Buckle up, the next few years are going to be fun.
 

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It's a no brainer. Solar + battery storage OR Wind + battery storage is the cheapest form of energy right now.
Expect more and more of these projects to be announced.

Unfortunately, Tesla remains battery constrained, and will be for the foreseeable future.
Good news is, in addition to producing their own cells, Tesla's main suppliers (CATL, LG, and Panasonic), are also going balls to the wall to scale production. LG and Panasonic will be producing Tesla's 4680 form factor and CATL is forecasting 1.5 terawatt hours of LFP(lithium, iron, phosphate) by 2025 to be used in Tesla Shanghai. So, more good news.... the world's 3 biggest battery producers all have Tesla as their main client.
IMO, the future of Tesla is riding on these new 4680 cells, and how fast they, and their suppliers can scale production. It's definitely something to keep an eye on.
Just checking this out, but it does look like solar or win are cheaper then conventional, by a good margin even, but when you add in the storage, it is not.

Cost of electricity by source - Wikipedia