OT: UConn to Big 12 ?

e5fdny

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Yeah including the horrid Bowl Game

That game thread was an epic meltdown. Fans were calling for Flood to be fired after that game.
I was working that night and if you recall we were still recovering from the aftermath of Sandy so I was a little busy and couldn’t watch the game.

But I do seem to remember that:

- Kyle Flood buried his mom that week
- the game time weather was pretty bad?
- players didn’t play up to their ability
 
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knightfan7

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I was working that night and if you recall we were still recovering from the aftermath of Sandy so I was a little busy and couldn’t watch the game.

But I do seem to remember that:

- Kyle Flood buried his mom that week
- the game time weather was pretty bad?
- players didn’t play up to their ability
I had moved out of the hotel where I had been since Sandy into an Apt about 10 days earlier. I got home from work in time to see the OT.
 
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Knight Shift

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I was working that night and if you recall we were still recovering from the aftermath of Sandy so I was a little busy and couldn’t watch the game.

But I do seem to remember that:

- Kyle Flood buried his mom that week
- the game time weather was pretty bad?
- players didn’t play up to their ability
Had forgotten all of those things. That did not stop the meltdown.
I somehow had remembered 2011 being the year of Sandy, but it was indeed 2012.

Regarding the game:

Rutgers seemed to be in command until the opening minutes of the fourth quarter, when turnovers and a sudden surge from the Hokies' offense quickly turned the momentum.

Rutgers (9-4) had a chance to tie it in overtime, but Nick Borgese missed a 42-yard field goal attempt to the right.


As far as the weather, this is what the VT site has:

Temperature: 69 Wind: SE 8 mph Weather: Cloudy
I had moved out of the hotel where I had been since Sandy into an Apt about 10 days earlier. I got home from work in time to see the OT.
I think we had had enough, and escaped NJ for a short vacation. Our Belmar rental was probably still drying out and waiting for contractors, which were in very short supply considering the number of homes damaged.
 
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Knight Shift

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Well, all the doubter can laugh all they want. Remarkable for them. I'm one who nitpicked at UConn's accomplishments under year 1 of Mora, and I will wipe the egg off my face. Jim Mora's stock just went waay up. They did beat a strong Fresno State (finished at #24), Boston College (a P5 team), and Liberty, going to a bowl game after Rocking Randy Edsall had them at 7-32 over the previous 4 years.

We are doomed? @DJ Spanky and @e5fdny
 

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Well, all the doubter can laugh all they want. Remarkable for them. I'm one who nitpicked at UConn's accomplishments under year 1 of Mora, and I will wipe the egg off my face. Jim Mora's stock just went waay up. They did beat a strong Fresno State (finished at #24), Boston College (a P5 team), and Liberty, going to a bowl game after Rocking Randy Edsall had them at 7-32 over the previous 4 years.

We are doomed? @DJ Spanky and @e5fdny

Worst case scenario.
 
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Well, all the doubter can laugh all they want. Remarkable for them. I'm one who nitpicked at UConn's accomplishments under year 1 of Mora, and I will wipe the egg off my face. Jim Mora's stock just went waay up. They did beat a strong Fresno State (finished at #24), Boston College (a P5 team), and Liberty, going to a bowl game after Rocking Randy Edsall had them at 7-32 over the previous 4 years.

We are doomed? @DJ Spanky and @e5fdny
I'm not going to believe that report until more mainstream CFB media reports it. UConn has been mentioned in the past but more on the periphery behind the PAC12 schools. The impression from the recent B12 media days was UConn was down the list of priorities. If anything were to happen, I'd expect it to be PAC12 school news before UConn or at least PAC12/UConn together but UConn on its own, I'm skeptical until mainstream CFB media reports it.
 

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I remember Coach Beamer coming into Piscataway with Michael Vick saying he was happy he achieved his goal of only having to play Vick for 1 half. Halftime score was 49-0. UGLY.
 

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Well, all the doubter can laugh all they want. Remarkable for them. I'm one who nitpicked at UConn's accomplishments under year 1 of Mora, and I will wipe the egg off my face. Jim Mora's stock just went waay up. They did beat a strong Fresno State (finished at #24), Boston College (a P5 team), and Liberty, going to a bowl game after Rocking Randy Edsall had them at 7-32 over the previous 4 years.

We are doomed? @DJ Spanky and @e5fdny
I actually read in one publication that UCONN is predicted for a Bowl game this season.
Shocked at the turnaround.
 
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I actually read in one publication that UCONN is predicted for a Bowl game this season.
Shocked at the turnaround.

They made a bowl game last season so not surprising.

When you hire a successful head coach, these turnarounds happen quickly.
 
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They made a bowl game last season so not surprising.

When you hire a successful head coach, these turnarounds happen quickly.
At UCLA from 2012-14, Mora went9-5/6-3, 10-3/6-3, then 10-3/6-3, leading to a 6 year extension.

In 2015, he went 8-5/5-4, then 4-8/2-7 and 5-6/3-5 before getting fired in 2017.

Was it his OC/DC that were responsible for the first 3 years, Jim himself, or something else? But that is a precipitous falloff for the last 2 years, and I would hardly say he was a "successful head coach" in college. He also had a good first year at the Atlanta Falcons and never had a winning season in the NFL after that. Maybe he's a flash in the pan?
 

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They made a bowl game last season so not surprising.

When you hire a GOOD head coach, these turnarounds happen quickly.
FIFY

How many ‘free’ years does our guy get ? When does the Ash excuse expire ? And Hey Al, UConn doesn’t even have a fieldhouse. Bet they go to several bowls before 2.0 goes to one.
 

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I asked this question on an other board and got shredded.

What is the attraction?

The B12 does not need UConn Bball to be a great Bball conference and UConn does not need the B12 to be a great Bball school. The only benefit to the B12 is to get the next best available sports program. The only benefit to UConn is to find a place to park its football program. The payout would be much better, but that needs to get weighed against the increase in travel for all the non-revenue sports and going back to a conference where there is no history, no tournament at MSG and no away games against traditional rivals in the Northeast, where all your alumni live. UConn becomes an other B12 island located hundreds of miles away from the closest conference school. So what is the benefit?
 

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FIFY

How many ‘free’ years does our guy get ? When does the Ash excuse expire ? And Hey Al, UConn doesn’t even have a fieldhouse. Bet they go to several bowls before 2.0 goes to one.
I thought they did get one?
 
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At UCLA from 2012-14, Mora went9-5/6-3, 10-3/6-3, then 10-3/6-3, leading to a 6 year extension.

In 2015, he went 8-5/5-4, then 4-8/2-7 and 5-6/3-5 before getting fired in 2017.

Was it his OC/DC that were responsible for the first 3 years, Jim himself, or something else? But that is a precipitous falloff for the last 2 years, and I would hardly say he was a "successful head coach" in college. He also had a good first year at the Atlanta Falcons and never had a winning season in the NFL after that. Maybe he's a flash in the pan?
Mora followed Rick Neuheisal he left him some solid talent. That sure didn’t hurt.
 
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I asked this question on an other board and got shredded.

What is the attraction?

The B12 does not need UConn Bball to be a great Bball conference and UConn does not need the B12 to be a great Bball school. The only benefit to the B12 is to get the next best available sports program. The only benefit to UConn is to find a place to park its football program. The payout would be much better, but that needs to get weighed against the increase in travel for all the non-revenue sports and going back to a conference where there is no history, no tournament at MSG and no away games against traditional rivals in the Northeast, where all your alumni live. UConn becomes an other B12 island located hundreds of miles away from the closest conference school. So what is the benefit?
https://big12sports.com/news/2023/3...o-new-york-city-parks-iconic-rucker-park.aspx
Big 12 wants access to the northeast for exposure and recruiting.
 
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FIFY

How many ‘free’ years does our guy get ? When does the Ash excuse expire ? And Hey Al, UConn doesn’t even have a fieldhouse. Bet they go to several bowls before 2.0 goes to one.
How many wins would Rutgers have playing a Uconn schedule. That's the question you should be asking.
 

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How many wins would Rutgers have playing a Uconn schedule. That's the question you should be asking.
By your logic, you are smart because you're better at math than kindergartners...got it !

You see, that's the problem with being an apologist. You can't understand Schiano was hired to compete in the Big10, which he's clearly failing at. Is it good enough for you that we would be undefeated against DIII teams ? Maybe even give him a raise and extension ?

He was not hired to hypothetically field a better team than others in a different & weaker conference (or Independent, in UConn's case) that he's not in, nor was Mora hired to hypothetically make UConn to better than teams in the Big10.

Should we not have fired Ash because we were always much better than Bethune-Cookman and Eastern Illinois A & M ?

Get a clue, man. And recognize the football team is non-competitive in the conference. That's not a good thing.
 
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That doesn’t matter and not the question we should be asking.
We are in the BIG and judged against the BIG competition
Last year, UConn lost to Michigan 59-0. Rutgers lost to Michigan 52-17. Also, Rutgers beat BC and UConn lost to BC 13-3. That’s a head-to-head comparison that tells you which program was more competitive. UConn would get demolished against our schedule - that’s a fact. We played two of the top four programs in the country, along with the Rose Bowl champion. We lost our starting QB and our starting running back. You may like Schiano or not, but to say that “the schedule doesn’t matter” isn’t really making a fair comparison between the two programs.

Scarlet Jerry
 

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Last year, UConn lost to Michigan 59-0. Rutgers lost to Michigan 52-17. Also, Rutgers beat BC and UConn lost to BC 13-3. That’s a head-to-head comparison that tells you which program was more competitive. UConn would get demolished against our schedule - that’s a fact. We played two of the top four programs in the country, along with the Rose Bowl champion. We lost our starting QB and our starting running back. You may like Schiano or not, but to say that “the schedule doesn’t matter” isn’t really making a fair comparison between the two programs.

Scarlet Jerry

Now factor in media/conference revenue.

The problem with "put Team X in the Big Ten and see how they would do" arguments is that it only works if you also give them our budget and conference payouts as well.

Or lower our media payments to UConn levels and then see how we would do against their schedule.
 
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Last year, UConn lost to Michigan 59-0. Rutgers lost to Michigan 52-17. Also, Rutgers beat BC and UConn lost to BC 13-3. That’s a head-to-head comparison that tells you which program was more competitive. UConn would get demolished against our schedule - that’s a fact. We played two of the top four programs in the country, along with the Rose Bowl champion. We lost our starting QB and our starting running back. You may like Schiano or not, but to say that “the schedule doesn’t matter” isn’t really making a fair comparison between the two programs.

Scarlet Jerry
We shouldn’t be comparing the 2 programs. We are in the BIG and that’s who we are judged against.
 

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We shouldn’t be comparing the 2 programs. We are in the BIG and that’s who we are judged against.
You’re right but that’s how it goes.
The thread is about UConn going to the Big 12 .
Then it becomes about Schiano 2.0.
Thats what trolls do.
That’s what people with an agenda do.
You’re right we shouldn’t be comparing RU to UCONN.
Don’t feed the trolls.
 
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Last year, UConn lost to Michigan 59-0. Rutgers lost to Michigan 52-17. Also, Rutgers beat BC and UConn lost to BC 13-3. That’s a head-to-head comparison that tells you which program was more competitive. UConn would get demolished against our schedule - that’s a fact. We played two of the top four programs in the country, along with the Rose Bowl champion. We lost our starting QB and our starting running back. You may like Schiano or not, but to say that “the schedule doesn’t matter” isn’t really making a fair comparison between the two programs.

Scarlet Jerry
What ?
UCONN beat BC 13-3. A bigger margin that our victory last year.
Their blowout loss to Michigan was on the road. We were blown out in the 2nd Half at home to Michigan.
The progress that Mora has made at UCONN is significantly better than anything 2.0 can claim.
Head to head this game would be a push for UCONN or RU. Speaks volume on where we are ( or aren’t).