OT: Walking Dead (spoiler)
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He's direct from the comic books, named Aaron. I'm fairly certain they'll use him to fill the comic book Aaron role as well. In the comics he finds\recruits people to come to Alexandria. Rick and company won't trust him at first but something will happen and they'll go with him to Alexandria. He's gay in the comics, I'm pretty sure he'll be gay on the show.
An interesting, though obvious question, was posed on Talking Dead last night. Are there going to ever be any groups of people who are "good" anymore? Obviously everybody is looking out for their own well-being at this time, but there has to be something out there where people will get along. I just fear that Rick is way too power hungry at this time to assimilate into any society without running things. Michonne, on the other hand, would welcome the break from always being on the run.
After the Gov and then Terminus, Rick has good reason not to trust any outsiders anymore.... I don't blame him. Not sure if anyone is just "good" anymore, unless they were somehow isolated on a smallish island and have rid themselves of all walkers by now.
The show is falling into this somewhat repetitive phase of trying to find the next sanctuary; only to dreadfully find that the next sanctuary is run by people with some kind of insane streak. The other common theme is "we've got to go on a mission over there to get X" and the mission is always not fruitful- and a main character usually dies.
Still a must-watch TV show and this season has been artistic. Kinda wish were were getting some clarity on whether there is any central government left and also on what the rest of the world is like. Do they cover this in the comic and do they talk about how long zombies last (or do they just rot and fall apart)?
Still a must-watch TV show and this season has been artistic. Kinda wish were were getting some clarity on whether there is any central government left and also on what the rest of the world is like. Do they cover this in the comic and do they talk about how long zombies last (or do they just rot and fall apart)?
We have been seeing this in the show. Zombies are getting squishy like the one abraham went to grab and the arm just pulled off making him fall, and we have seen a number of zombies that were just piles of goo with a head.
Just Keep watching.
The TV show is starting to catch up with the comics, the basic plots are the same but the details are a LOT different.
I've never read the comics (and at this point, I won't until the show ends if I can avoid it), but I found it interesting reading one article the other day about how Daryl isn't an actual comic book character. Because he's everybody's favorite character though, they've basically restructured who lives and who dies (and when) in order to fit him into the group. Some people should have died off a while ago. Others shouldn't have died off nearly as early, but he's basically taken some of their story line.
I'm happy that even though we're doing show spoilers in this thread that nobody's given away the comic spoilers.
I'm happy that even though we're doing show spoilers in this thread that nobody's given away the comic spoilers.
I kind of wish I didn't read the comics...well I don't actually read them but I do read the comic synopsis when the new issues come out. Anyway, I tend to have an idea of what is coming next because of it and that has taken a bit of the suspense out of the show for me. Not much but some. Although I do enjoy trying to figure out how they are going to arrive at some of the major plot points that I've read about.
I'm pretty excited for what Alexandria will bring to the show.
I spoke with one of the show's associate producers, in a social setting, and he said that the popularity of the actor, among his/her co-workers plays into whether they overstay their existence in the comics. The writers are cognizant of the chemistry/dynamics of the actors.
The actors know the comic storylines and actively campaign for their co-workers to be written into staying longer. Case in point; the actress playing Lori Grimes wasn't very liked so no one was asking for the "extension" of the character.
It is different enough that you wouldn't be spoiled too much. The main plots are the same but they play out very differently.
You might be shocked at how much the TV show changed things if anything.
LOL. The guy lets his family watch zombies getting shot and sliced up, but two guys kissing? "OH MY GOD THE HORROR!"
I see 7 current characters that are alive and 1 "unknown". At times in the comics a character just disappears and you have no idea if they are alive\dead.
Keep in mind some of the characters alive in the comics are very dead on the show and vice versa.
The talk of islands and boats raises the point that the best defense against zombies is a castle.
By castle, I don't mean "big stone house". The French Renaissance nonsense that's been popularized in architecture doesn't count. A real castle has a curtain wall and an inner bailey - all other structures within the curtain wall, and their composition, are generally less important than the actual fact of the wall itself.
The idea is that the wall is impenetrable, that it be interrupted by only one entry portal which is highly secure using multiple barriers with some sort of "kill zone" between them.
This is a castle:
By castle, I don't mean "big stone house". The French Renaissance nonsense that's been popularized in architecture doesn't count. A real castle has a curtain wall and an inner bailey - all other structures within the curtain wall, and their composition, are generally less important than the actual fact of the wall itself.
The idea is that the wall is impenetrable, that it be interrupted by only one entry portal which is highly secure using multiple barriers with some sort of "kill zone" between them.
This is a castle:
Then you let your guard down and one of your own dies (like the boy when they were in the prison a few seasons ago). And then more people die.
I don't read the comics..er graphic novels.. but my guess would be that the Alexandria gays want the group because they need an army for some reason.. they want protection from someone like the Governor.
Same problem in a castle I guess. And for the island, I understand they can walk underwater, so they may be walking ashore at any time.
Boat looks better and better now. Gasoline powered, but with sails as well. Someone dies, throw em overboard.
No, the castle he posted in the picture is surrounded by water. The zombies can't really just walk up and push on the fence. There's one way in, unless the drawbridge is always down, which makes it much easier to repel intruders. I think they could always climb down and take a boat to the other side if need be.
As stated in the previous post, the prison's fences were a glaring weakness. Recall that valuable man hours were spent "clearing the fences" so that the zekes didn't compromise them. This was a daily concern and should have quickly been deemed an unacceptable risk.
The ideal defensive structure would have walls instead of fences. Stone (or concrete) walls can't be defeated by zeke hordes and if they're sufficiently wide at the top (as they should be) they can be easily patrolled to keep the perimeter clear.
Bear in mind, too, that you'll need to defend from people as well as the dead. Mere chain link fences offer no defense against aggression. A sufficiently solid wall can only be defeated by heavy artillery.
Woodbury was a good setup, but it was compromised by the live folks, not the dead ones.
Without having looked ahead in the books, I would think that Alexandria has the same flaw that Woodbury had. Walls are good, walls are great... BUT... They should also be observable. A "walled community" will, by definition, have a great deal of perimeter that can't easily be monitored.
Boats are a great idea but they definitely have their own challenges. Anything that relies on engine power is 100% out of the question - the engine will fail, you won't have adequate spares and you'll be adrift on the open ocean. That leaves large sailboats (40 feet and over) as the only real option. So... you have to know how to sail. And not just a little bit - you have to be good at it. Otherwise, the sea will kill you, straight up.
Provisioning is a big concern. Relying solely on caught fish will leave you hungry most of the time. You have to be well provisioned, otherwise you'll be making frequent landings and opening yourself up to the associated risks. Water is, likewise, a major concern. Eventually you'll run out unless you have some method of making it. Sea water distillation, rain water catchment... all these are proper survival techniques but they require a level of knowledge most people don't have.
The bottom line is that hijacking a large sailboat is a great option - but only for people who are already experienced offshore sailors. Anyone else winds up dead.
Because they don't want to starve to death?
A small island is not going to have the resources to sustain the group indefinitely.
Any island that would be large enough would have already been populated and would be full of zombies.
But once you get rid of that finite number of zombies (less than mainland usa), you are a lot safer than on the mainland. Maybe an island the size of St Maarten (was just there)?
The best would be a nuclear powered aircarft carrier, fully staffed of course.... With aircraft, helicopters (to go grab more provisions), weapons, defense systems....