OT: Will Smith just slapped Wayne Madkin during the Oscars

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11thEagleFan

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Apparently Jada’s bald look is because of a medical issue. Not sure if Chris Rock knew that. If he did, he deserved to get smacked. If not, the fresh prince was way out of line.
 

ZombieKissinger

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Yeah, I wondered about that after the reaction

Edit: Google told me it’s alopecia, like Frank Martin
 

M R DAWGS

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Staged, trying to get ratings up. Will Smith is a good actor though.

If you were pissed off enough to go up and slap Chris Rock on live television for making a joke about your wife, wouldn’t you leave the venue afterwards rather than returning to your seat?
 
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Maroonbulldog

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Look for the Japanese feed. It shows the whole uncensored bit including the mouthing from the audience after
 

missouridawg

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Rock joked on Jada in the 2016 Oscars as well. He said “Jada saying she turned down the Oscars invite is like me saying I turned down an invite into Rhiannas panties”. So there’s a history there.


I can’t believe more folks aren’t talking about Venus Williams nipple. That was a helluva 15 minutes.
 

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Can you cross lines and shield behind "I'm a comedian!"?

So it’s cool to hit comedians if you feel their joke crossed a line?

Context is always important. That was a grey area. Comedians can't be *** holes wherever they please and hide behind a comedian defense. It's not like that was a Will Smith or Jada roast. It was the Oscars. There's a line.

I'll tell what will happen. Rock will say he crossed a line and shouldn't have made fun of Jada's medical condition in that scenario. Smith will say he shouldn't have open hand slapped him on TV. They'll move on and that will be that.
 
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Context is always important. That was a grey area. Comedians can't be *** holes wherever they please and hide behind a comedian defense. It's not like that was a Will Smith or Jada roast. It was the Oscars. There's a line.

This is not a gray area. Chris Rock wasn't threatening anyone or inciting violence. He made a joke. You might not like the joke. You might find it offensive. That doesn't present a gray area of whether or not you can smack someone on national TV. Assault is never justified because you find a joke offensive.

This is the problem with the idea that "offensive words are violence". It leads to actual violence.
 
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I’ll admit that in general, I agree and that Smith was probably wrong. But let’s dream up a scenario here. Let’s say that Quincy Wagstaff’s wife was going through chemo (I would never wish that on you or anyone you know, btw). Now let’s say you’re at a show and the comedian points out your wife and makes the same exact joke that Chris Rock made. Know what I mean?
 

jethreauxdawg

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Will laughed at the joke first

Then saw Jada not laughing. He had to do something desperate to get out of that hole.
 

ckDOG

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Nope, assault isn't justified.

This is not a gray area. Chris Rock wasn't threatening anyone or inciting violence. He made a joke. You might not like the joke. You might find it offensive. That doesn't present a gray area of whether or not you can smack someone on national TV. Assault is never justified because you find a joke offensive.

This is the problem with the idea that "offensive words are violence". It leads to actual violence.

But if I insulted your wife in front of your face, I wouldn't blame you for popping me. Pretty natural reaction unless I was putting on show where you were expecting to get tooled on. I just don't understand why comedians get the expectation for being able to hide behind that label when others couldn't. I'm not taking about at their shows. You show up...you should expect the worst. Part of the experience. Do you think the Smiths showed up tonight expecting to get tooled on? Probably not. Should he have marched up there and slapped Chris? No. But to quote Chris Rock...

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This is not a gray area. Chris Rock wasn't threatening anyone or inciting violence. He made a joke. You might not like the joke. You might find it offensive. That doesn't present a gray area of whether or not you can smack someone on national TV. Assault is never justified because you find a joke offensive.

This is the problem with the idea that "offensive words are violence". It leads to actual violence.

He should file charges and a civil suit.
 

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Talk **** about a man's wife and you run the risk of getting your *** whipped. Full stop... In my case, I hold you down and let her give you the treatment... And you walk wrong for a month.
 

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I’ll admit that in general, I agree and that Smith was probably wrong. But let’s dream up a scenario here. Let’s say that Quincy Wagstaff’s wife was going through chemo (I would never wish that on you or anyone you know, btw). Now let’s say you’re at a show and the comedian points out your wife and makes the same exact joke that Chris Rock made. Know what I mean?

Good thing he only joked about her and didn't 17 her. Oh wait....

Yeah we should all smack someone instead of talking to them
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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He should file charges and a civil suit.

He should keep his talk limited for all the other comedians. The less he says the better for him.

I hope this does not inspire other idiots to do worse to people who offend them because there are a ton of people offended about something every day and there's Gonna be slapping or worse for everyone from now on!
 

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Not sure what shocks me more. The slap or that he wasn’t escorted out.
 

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It’s about damn consistency.

A lot of the same people saying what he did was ok also say police are violent to criminals.

What needs defending more? A comedian making a joke abt a wife or a woman trying to stab another woman?
 

paindonthurt_

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Let’s dream up a scenario where a woman is trying to stab another woman and take her life and a police officer stops the stabber.
 

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Going to have a hard time convincing me that wasn’t staged for several reasons.

First how many of you have slapped another man? Will Smith played Ali if you recall.

Next how many of you would get slapped and just stand there?

At least from what I saw no security rushed the stage and apparently will goes back to his seat and the show goes on.

Somebody make a case it was legit
 

paindonthurt_

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What the 17 does that have to do with playing Ali?
You think that makes him tough or able to box?
 
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