Oweh update

LineSkiCat14

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Also. Pretty clear hes gonna wait until almost everyone decides. Which makes total sense. But im thinking hes gonna wait until the end to see how it all shakes out, and see if theres a chance he could get drafted.
 
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I never back-peddle.

If I meant it I would stand by it!!

I clashed with all you cal danglers for years and never backed down!

Who in TF are you calling a Cal dangler?

You just joined in 2022, not even 2.5 years ago, don't act like you are some long-time member of this board.

And you clearly don't know my posting history if you are calling me a Cal Dangler.

And what TF does Cal have anything to do with Oweh's decision?

Nothing you are posting is making ANY sense.
 

ukwildcatwildfan

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Personally I think he comes back but who knows.

One thing I don’t think I’ve seen mentioned in discussions about why someone would be “getting feedback” and playing out every workout: I don’t think the feedback is about what he needs to work on. I think he is probably more aware than anyone else about the things he needs to work on. He can get that info pretty easily.

Instead I think it’s smart to get as much in person time as possible with any team that shows interest because IMO many teams are looking for fit and personality and how players will fit within their culture.

Getting face to face time with execs and scouts can lay the foundation for getting a contract this year or more likely IMO next year.

By all accounts he’s a great character guy. That comes through in meeting someone in person. Even if he isn’t drafted this year, that first in person impression could be the difference in a team drafting you if they have met you and get a sense of how you will fit within their team culture.

Please note I have never been through the NBA draft process so all of this is JMHO. The feedback I got in high school from my coach was “you have deceptive speed. You’re even slower than you look up close”.
I think this is the right analysis. He’s a likable, high character guy. Meet the GMs, scouts, etc and next year when they’re watching cbb prospects and they see his game it might slightly color their analysis of him, give him the benefit of the doubt, etc. Smart move for a fringe guy. And ultimately it helps UK to have as many positive connections in the league as possible.

And with that, I’m going to get off here for the day and check in tomorrow when we know his decision!
 

LineSkiCat14

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I have no doubt that if he gets a guarantee, even if it's second round, he's going to go for it.

Thats exactly what im thinking. If he gets just one team to be like "yeah we will take you at 50 if youre there" then hes gonna stay.

The problem is, you never know if that team is assuming another player won't be available at 50. But say someone who was supposed to go 30th, falls to them? They're gonna take that guy and be like "sorry Oweh, we didnt think this guy would be available for us".
 
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Digger-Cat

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A 6'6 shooting guard that shot about 38% from three last 2 years?


What did I make up?

Many! Over the last several years, a boatload of 2nd round picks received guaranteed deals. Not sure how that makes Livingston an outlier.

Klutch helped Livingston. Cal and Livingston camp and well as Klutch had a strained relationship.

So, then its not a fact if it's just your "common sense" opinion.

If you already have a deal, does that mean you can't possibly get a better one? Working out with additional teams only gets you more opportunities. He is on some draft boards, so clearly some think he has a draft projection.
No, no, that's not what you said. There is a big difference between a second round deal and what Chris Livingston got.
There are a lot of guys that get 1 year deals, or 2 way deals in the 2nd round, that's fine, but you used Chris Livingston's deal as your standard. He got a 4 year deal with guarantees. Show me where that is common practice for an extremely late 2nd round guy.
Oweh isn't 19 and he isn't showing up on mock drafts. Livingston was supposed to go late first round. Big difference.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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I have no doubt that if he gets a guarantee, even if it's second round, he's going to go for it.
I can understand it but let’s say he gets a million a year four years/ 2 guaranteed. He would make almost double that here in one year, not a great business decision unless he absolutely believes he will get PT and outperform that contract so much they will sign him to a larger extension early.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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$3.5M is wild ... he better play to First Team AA level at that pay rate ....
He’s all second team SEC and by far a top returner off a S16 team. That’s the rate for guys projected as first team for next year with a shot at AA status as well.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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I will say it would be some serious BS if he did stay in while Karter Knox of all guys returns to play for a one and done factory and he was a guy who seriously didn’t want college much at all.
 

The_Catfather

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Jamir Watkins staying in draft. Tahaad Pettiford withdrawing and returning to Auburn.

Oweh has one final workout today, with the Sacramento Kings. They don't have a first-round pick, only a second rounder (42nd).
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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Umm...the last pick in last years draft, Ariel Hukporti also got a 2 year deal with the knicks. If you are willing to go look, you will see a lot of 2nd rd guys, even late picks, are getting guaranteed deals. Not all, but many.
No doubt they do, I’d say a handful per year get a guaranteed deal but most aren’t close to the college deals these guys now get which is why even fringe first round guys are returning.
 

Digger-Cat

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Umm...the last pick in last years draft, Ariel Hukporti also got a 2 year deal with the knicks. If you are willing to go look, you will see a lot of 2nd rd guys, even late picks, are getting guaranteed deals. Not all, but many.
And for every one of those, there are hundreds that don't get those deals.
I'm too busy to look it up, was his deal anywhere close to the 3.5 mill OO is rumored to get at UK?
How many guys that were not projected to get drafted, ended up with a guaranteed deal? Can't be many.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Jamir Watkins staying in draft. Tahaad Pettiford withdrawing and returning to Auburn.

Oweh has one final workout today, with the Sacramento Kings. They don't have a first-round pick, only a second rounder (42nd).
That sucks because Watkins would be a prime target if he came back and Oweh did not. Pettiford is kinda surprising to me, dude is a baller.
 

The_Catfather

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That sucks because Watkins would be a prime target if he came back and Oweh did not. Pettiford is kinda surprising to me, dude is a baller.
Read that Watkins did really well in the combine and the scrimmages. I think RJ Luis is the only fall-back option left at this point. Other than an international guy. Although I could be forgetting someone.
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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Read that Watkins did really well in the combine and the scrimmages. I think RJ Luis is the only fall-back option left at this point. Other than an international guy. Although I could be forgetting someone.
Probably a reclass or foreign option. Maybe a player that didn’t sign like Pop Issacs we went after earlier in the cycle?
 

bbnkat02

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This. You go try out. There is no downside for 00 to do this. It is only us impatient BBN fans who are inconvenienced.

OO should have decided already. I want what I want, and I want it NOW!

sheesh
It’s both. Like he should do what’s best for him of course but man, business wise I think it would be better to come back.
 
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He’s all second team SEC and by far a top returner off a S16 team. That’s the rate for guys projected as first team for next year with a shot at AA status as well.

Yep agreed, seems a fair rate.

I could see him making a big jump this year in terms of his overall impact, something similar to jumps we have seen from other players in this league like Walter Clayton, Mark Sears, etc., I could see him being arguably the best guard in the SEC and one of the best in college basketball next year.
 
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davtay

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It’s both. Like he should do what’s best for him of course but man, business wise I think it would be better to come back.
oh, I agree. I'm saying the hand wringing on our part is what is crazy. It really does not affect us at all, but BBN gonna BBN. lol
 
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LineSkiCat14

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Jamir Watkins staying in draft. Tahaad Pettiford withdrawing and returning to Auburn.

Oweh has one final workout today, with the Sacramento Kings. They don't have a first-round pick, only a second rounder (42nd).

Good info. I think the Sacramento kings are gonna have a hard time guaranteeing that spot to Oweh. Its already a little too high up the draft and Sacramento would be reaching. So IF some player slips to them, they are going to take them, instead of reaching for Oweh.
 

fredmanthecatfan

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My GUESS is that there will be no announcement until tomorrow morning. However, we will get an update on Matt Pilgrim’s perceived ability to bench press Pat Kelsoe.
 
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billoliver40

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Seems like we have convinced ourselves of a Lotta things. Like Oweh needing a first round 'guarantee'. OR we automatically get #9 if he returns. OR if he is guaranteed to personally get one fifth of the total NIL of the team. OR he was a all American sure shot.

Seems like we need a refresher of several dozens of posts during the year that Oweh was over doing, not passing, etc.

I would love to see the guy back. Experience makes the team better. He would be a solid piece...but not the whole thing. I hope he returns.

If he doesn't, UK basketball gets to do the Jody Meeks 'what if he had stayed' all year.

And this talk of him being one and done is simply untrue. Guy was gonna be a 4th year player.

Good luck to him whatever he does.