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Chuck4Life

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Let me see if I can be a little more clear for your CadaverDawg. Recruits, in general, consider a number of factors when determining the school they will attend and the team for whom they'll play. Those include (but are not necessarily limited to):
- Early Playing Time
- Geographic Proximity
- Family Ties
- Competing for champioships
- "fringe benefits"
- Coaching that can get them to the NFL
- Friends on the team
- etc., etc.

Different players view different factors with various level of importance. For example, Recruit 1 may want to be assured the opportunity to start as a True Freshman which could potentially eliminate certain schools and give others a greater chance to sign that recruit. He may care about early playing time more than any other factor. Conversely, another recruit may only care about joining a program that will compete for championships and maximize his chances of getting to the NFL. Similarly, this will eliminate certain teams while elevating others.

My point is, based upon my opinion formed by reading information put out all over the place, that if Robert Nkemdiche decides to play at Ole Miss then it is because family ties (playing with his brother) is more important to him than any other factor. Can Ole Miss offer value in other categories? Some. Can other schools offer greater value in the other categories? Yes, in many of them--especially including "fringe benefits" (which is the basis for this entire thread). Therefore I have come to what I feel is a reasonable conclusion that if Robert Nkemdiche goes to Ole Miss it's basically 100% because of his brother. If he doesn't, it's because a combination of other factors were more important and valuable to him than playing with his brother.
 

CadaverDawg

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So why hasnt Robert Nkimdiche lived with this "stellar father" in over two years?

Good spin, but facts are facts and **** is hitting the fan and there is nothing you can do about it.


Not to mention..If it's all about "closeness to family", there are much closer facilities to Oxford than UMMC. Especially knowing that UMMC could spark some rumors since your son plays for OM. Would the largest Hospital in the State hire him, but none of the hospitals close to Oxford would? That doesn't seem logical if he's good enough at what he does to work for the largest in the State, does it?
 

Chuck4Life

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I know nothing about the credentials or resume of Dr. Nkemdiche, but if, as others state, his eligibility for employment is limited to research or non-patient care related positions then yes, it would seem logical that the state's main medical research facility would be a pretty appropriate place to land.
 

RocketDawg

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Correct. Regardless of the position ... it could be as janitor ... if he was hired to get a player, in was inappropriate. Remember they always say "even the appearance of impropriety". Reminds me of Petrino getting the state to pay for his mistress.

I thought all you guys were just blowing smoke, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Of course, that senator from French Camp, which I believe is MSU country, might raise some eyebrows too if he's the one originating and pursuing the charges. Of course, if they actually did hire the guy, it doesn't matter who pursues it.
 

was21

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excuse me, but just what the hell is an unlicensed doctor? Oxymoron??
 

CadaverDawg

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Let me see if I can be a little more clear for your CadaverDawg. Recruits, in general, consider a number of factors when determining the school they will attend and the team for whom they'll play. Those include (but are not necessarily limited to):
- Early Playing Time
- Geographic Proximity
- Family Ties
- Competing for champioships
- "fringe benefits"
- Coaching that can get them to the NFL
- Friends on the team
- etc., etc.

Different players view different factors with various level of importance. For example, Recruit 1 may want to be assured the opportunity to start as a True Freshman which could potentially eliminate certain schools and give others a greater chance to sign that recruit. He may care about early playing time more than any other factor. Conversely, another recruit may only care about joining a program that will compete for championships and maximize his chances of getting to the NFL. Similarly, this will eliminate certain teams while elevating others.

My point is, based upon my opinion formed by reading information put out all over the place, that if Robert Nkemdiche decides to play at Ole Miss then it is because family ties (playing with his brother) is more important to him than any other factor. Can Ole Miss offer value in other categories? Some. Can other schools offer greater value in the other categories? Yes, in many of them--especially including "fringe benefits" (which is the basis for this entire thread). Therefore I have come to what I feel is a reasonable conclusion that if Robert Nkemdiche goes to Ole Miss it's basically 100% because of his brother. If he doesn't, it's because a combination of other factors were more important and valuable to him than playing with his brother.


And once again I ask.... Is this a "reasonable conclusion" to you because it favors Ole Miss?

Because what I see in those statements is that the ONLY thing OM offers RN is his brother. So it lends many to think there's bound to be more to it that he "likes" about you guys. But some things you can't say in a Scout interview.
 

DanielPlainview

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Evidence? You lost me there. Can you even come up with circumstantial evidence? Like something as good as a coach being fired days before the season?
 

RocketDawg

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Wouldn't providing scholarships for friends, like Nk was doing at Clemson, also a violation of the bolded statement? Seems that it would be.
 

Victory Red

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only 1 problem to your post:

There could be an email or three talking about hiring him while Robert was committed to Clemson. Should an investigation turn that up- then that doesnt really look too good to the NCAA.

I'll just pretend, for the sake of making you look silly, that you know what these potential emails are about. So, I'll ask a few questions:

1) What does Dr. Nkemdiche do in his practice? As in, what kind of doctor is he, and what is his specialty? Be careful how you answer this, as not everyone with a Doctorate is an M.D.

2) What job title was he potentially given at UMC? What specialty will he potentially be assisting with? What will be his role in the hospital? If you know #1 and have seen this fictitious emails, then this one should be quite easy.

I'll accept any response to this post that doesn't answer #1 and #2 appropriately as "I don't have a 17'ing idea." I'll also accept no response as the same answer.
 

tb2

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Was this a "Rebel Bear I work with story"? If so, please elaborate. Those are my favorites.
 

FlabLoser

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I'll just pretend, for the sake of making you look silly, that you know what these potential emails are about. So, I'll ask a few questions:

1) What does Dr. Nkemdiche do in his practice? As in, what kind of doctor is he, and what is his specialty? Be careful how you answer this, as not everyone with a Doctorate is an M.D.

2) What job title was he potentially given at UMC? What specialty will he potentially be assisting with? What will be his role in the hospital? If you know #1 and have seen this fictitious emails, then this one should be quite easy.

I'll accept any response to this post that doesn't answer #1 and #2 appropriately as "I don't have a 17'ing idea." I'll also accept no response as the same answer.


Ask him on Nafoom.
 

Victory Red

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("Sunny Nkemdiche University of Mississippi Medical Center" still results in no Google hits - who knows if he actually works there?).

Seeing as he lives in Georgia, I would find it hard to imagine him working at UMC right now.
 

Victory Red

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Oh wait he hasn't committed to Ole Miss yet. Wonder why not?

With regard to the Peer allegations, I will believe it when I see it.

The guy is two things - 1. A great football player
2. Not going to Ole Miss

Where is Ronny when you really need him...
 

FlabLoser

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Seeing as he lives in Georgia, I would find it hard to imagine him working at UMC right now.

Who said he works at UMC right now? Probably the same guy who said every African American at Ole Miss is an Uncle Tom. Or the guy who said that every African American who stayed in the South after Reconstruction was an Uncle Tom - Nobody.

You fellas turn on the group think switch and everything after that is an attack on some imaginary projection of a message board bandit.
 

Chuck4Life

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It's reasonable in my mind because it doesn't require me to make assumptions based upon hypothetical conspiracies regarding topics on which I have very little subject matter knowledge. I'll turn it around and put it this way--If Denzel Nkemdiche were not playing at Ole Miss right now would Ole Miss be in the running for Robert Nkemdiche? When I answer that question, "NO, they wouldn't be", then I can reasonable assume that the NUMBER 1 reason Robert IS considering Ole Miss is because of his brother.

I don't necessarily think the ONLY thing Ole Miss offers is his brother. I just think that other schools can offer a more in many of the other categories. Most any school can offer early playing time and any SEC school can offer visibility through TV. Ole Miss' coaching staff hasn't had the chance to prove its ability to develop DE's or DT's so it would be reasonable to think that the perception would be that other schools can offer more as far as player development. Ole Miss can not compete with the others as far as competing for championships. As for "fringe benefits" if the school is not named Vanderbilt and they're in the SEC then they certainly have the ability to offer tremendous benefits to recruits (or so I've been told on here). I don't think any school would hold back if that's what it took to get the concensus #1 player in the country. So, it's not that Ole Miss has nothing, it's just that they don't have nearly enough without Robert's brother.
 

Victory Red

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Don't guess you bothered to read what I quoted. Go back, read it again, very slowly, and then take the rest of the day off.
 

HailState39110

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I'll just pretend, for the sake of making you look silly, that you know what these potential emails are about. So, I'll ask a few questions:

1) What does Dr. Nkemdiche do in his practice? As in, what kind of doctor is he, and what is his specialty? Be careful how you answer this, as not everyone with a Doctorate is an M.D.

2) What job title was he potentially given at UMC? What specialty will he potentially be assisting with? What will be his role in the hospital? If you know #1 and have seen this fictitious emails, then this one should be quite easy.

I'll accept any response to this post that doesn't answer #1 and #2 appropriately as "I don't have a 17'ing idea." I'll also accept no response as the same answer.

it says here he is an MD, not a DO or PhD, so I am assuming he is a medical doctor in patient care:

http://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-sunday-nkemdiche-gbwcs

1358 Great Shoals Cir
Lawrenceville, GA 30045
(678) 451-9982 (Office)

Can someone call the phone number to see what his office specializes in?
 

Victory Red

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When I said MD, I meant someone who has a clinical patient practice or treats inpatients. I don't believe that is his scope of practice, and there are certainly easy ways to figure out what kind of doctor he is, if you know where to look. I can't say I know first-hand what he does, but I have a very good idea.
 
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Coach34

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I'll just pretend, for the sake of making you look silly, that you know what these potential emails are about. So, I'll ask a few questions:

1) What does Dr. Nkemdiche do in his practice? As in, what kind of doctor is he, and what is his specialty? Be careful how you answer this, as not everyone with a Doctorate is an M.D.

2) What job title was he potentially given at UMC? What specialty will he potentially be assisting with? What will be his role in the hospital? If you know #1 and have seen this fictitious emails, then this one should be quite easy.

I'll accept any response to this post that doesn't answer #1 and #2 appropriately as "I don't have a 17'ing idea." I'll also accept no response as the same answer.

Still a student?? Resident?

http://www.ehealthscores.com/providers/izd-lclqsqffpc/SUNDAY-NKEMDICHE.html
 

ckDOG

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You are a Doctor when you graduate med school.

You can't independently practice as a physician until you are licensed. This varies by State. "Doctor" is a very loose term.
 

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Not surprisingly you missed my point. IF a school arranges for a player's parent to get a state job, yes big deal. Now, the fact that YOU believe OM would be so stupid to get into a situation like that tells me who the dipshit is. The point is, if OM is so good at the game, do you really think they would get caught doing something this blatant?

And another thing - quit trying to flatter yourself - I will never be butt hurt over anything State does, especially when it comes to recruiting.
 

slickdawg

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Here it says that "Dr." Sunday Jude Nkemdiche is a "Student in an Organized Health Care Education/Training Program" with a taxonomy code of 390200000X

http://www.hipaaspace.com/Medical_B...Provider_Identifier/Codes/NPI_1619290046.aspx


According to the National Provider Information (NPI) database, that taxonomy code comes back as:

[h=2]Taxonomy Code 390200000X
Student in an Organized Health Care Education/Training Program - Student, Health Care[/h]

Sunday Nkemdiche:

http://npidb.org/doctors/student_he...ontraining_program_390200000x/1619290046.aspx

With a "business" address of:

1358 GREAT SHOALS CIR
LAWRENCEVILLE, GA 30045-7091


And if you Google Maps that address and do the street view, it's a house, not an office.


That address comes up in the Gwinnett County tax assessor as belonging to:

SALAKO OLUREMI
1358 GREAT SHOALS CIR
LAWRENCEVILLE GA 30045-7091
1358 GREAT SHOALS CIR

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This whole thing stinks bad. Maybe the "deal" is to get him a license and/or a job?
 

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Okay Reb trolls

Here it says that "Dr." Sunday Jude Nkemdiche is a "Student in an Organized Health Care Education/Training Program" with a taxonomy code of 390200000X

http://www.hipaaspace.com/Medical_B...Provider_Identifier/Codes/NPI_1619290046.aspx


According to the National Provider Information (NPI) database, that taxonomy code comes back as:

Taxonomy Code 390200000X
Student in an Organized Health Care Education/Training Program - Student, Health Care




Sunday Nkemdiche:

http://npidb.org/doctors/student_he...ontraining_program_390200000x/1619290046.aspx

With a "business" address of:

1358 GREAT SHOALS CIR
LAWRENCEVILLE, GA 30045-7091


And if you Google Maps that address and do the street view, it's a house, not an office.


That address comes up in the Gwinnett County tax assessor as belonging to:

SALAKO OLUREMI1358 GREAT SHOALS CIR
LAWRENCEVILLE GA 30045-7091
1358 GREAT SHOALS CIR

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This whole thing stinks bad. Maybe the "deal" is to get him a license and/or a job?

Please give your response for this since you have one for everything else
 

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I hate to admit it, but we’re screwed on this one.

I’m in my radiology residency at UMC. So late the other night I go into the radiology department to catch up on some x-rays, and sitting there is a pleasant African American fellow in a white coat with a stethoscope around his neck. This was unusual because (1) I know all of the radiologists and residents at UMC, and this guy was new; and (2) radiologists typically don’t wear stethoscopes. Even more peculiar, he was holding an x-ray plain film in his right hand and had a befuddled expression on his face.

I immediately noticed that he was holding the x-ray upside down and away from the light. But even from that angle it was clear that the patient had a pretty significant fracture of the distal tibia (shinbone). Next thing I know he starts dictating a radiology report: "Reviewed X-ray of patient’s right arm and, uh, looks pretty good to me."

Just then he noticed me and a sheepish expression came across his face. "Good bones," he said, pointing at the x-ray. I noticed he didn’t have a name tag or any other identifying credentials (also unusual). He introduced himself as "Sunday" with a big smile. Later I discovered that he’s Dr. Sunday Nkemdiche and that he’s been hired to come in and read x-rays between midnight and 4:00 a.m. That’s right, Dr. Nkemdiche is reading x-rays at UMC. Only a matter of time before this gets out.
 

was21

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Man, you just missed the hell out of a pretty damn good sarcastic comment..thx
 

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I’m in my radiology residency at UMC. So late the other night I go into the radiology department to catch up on some x-rays, and sitting there is a pleasant African American fellow in a white coat with a stethoscope around his neck. This was unusual because (1) I know all of the radiologists and residents at UMC, and this guy was new; and (2) radiologists typically don’t wear stethoscopes. Even more peculiar, he was holding an x-ray plain film in his right hand and had a befuddled expression on his face.

I immediately noticed that he was holding the x-ray upside down and away from the light. But even from that angle it was clear that the patient had a pretty significant fracture of the distal tibia (shinbone). Next thing I know he starts dictating a radiology report: "Reviewed X-ray of patient’s right arm and, uh, looks pretty good to me."

Just then he noticed me and a sheepish expression came across his face. "Good bones," he said, pointing at the x-ray. I noticed he didn’t have a name tag or any other identifying credentials (also unusual). He introduced himself as "Sunday" with a big smile. Later I discovered that he’s Dr. Sunday Nkemdiche and that he’s been hired to come in and read x-rays between midnight and 4:00 a.m. That’s right, Dr. Nkemdiche is reading x-rays at UMC. Only a matter of time before this gets out.


No way you guys are that sloppy
 

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I’m in my radiology residency at UMC. So late the other night I go into the radiology department to catch up on some x-rays, and sitting there is a pleasant African American fellow in a white coat with a stethoscope around his neck. This was unusual because (1) I know all of the radiologists and residents at UMC, and this guy was new; and (2) radiologists typically don’t wear stethoscopes. Even more peculiar, he was holding an x-ray plain film in his right hand and had a befuddled expression on his face.

I immediately noticed that he was holding the x-ray upside down and away from the light. But even from that angle it was clear that the patient had a pretty significant fracture of the distal tibia (shinbone). Next thing I know he starts dictating a radiology report: "Reviewed X-ray of patient’s right arm and, uh, looks pretty good to me."

Just then he noticed me and a sheepish expression came across his face. "Good bones," he said, pointing at the x-ray. I noticed he didn’t have a name tag or any other identifying credentials (also unusual). He introduced himself as "Sunday" with a big smile. Later I discovered that he’s Dr. Sunday Nkemdiche and that he’s been hired to come in and read x-rays between midnight and 4:00 a.m. That’s right, Dr. Nkemdiche is reading x-rays at UMC. Only a matter of time before this gets out.

********. I just texted a Dr in the ortho dept and he said BS. Good troll attempt.
 
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