Perry?

Panthur

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I believe I’m going to play more somewhere else because I’m an athlete and competitive.

Or

Pope hates me because I’m a Cal player.
He's going to play less if he goes to UL because they have better guards. You didn't read the other guy's post you originally pooh-poohed and it led to you saying all kinds of irrelevant things trying to maintain your position. Peace.
 
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Brassow2Wall

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I believe I’m going to play more somewhere else because I’m an athlete and competitive.

Or

Pope hates me because I’m a Cal player.

So what are the pro's of getting to play "more" somewhere else? I think if we know the answer to this then it would help us in understanding the decision.

Is he seeking more playing time for more exposure to showcase his skills in hopes of a professional career as a basketball player? If so, then it makes sense. Will that be in the NBA, I highly highly doubt it. But I suppose it's not unreasonable to think he might carve out a career over seas. If so, what are his potential earnings from playing overseas? Is it more than he could make in business in a state like kentucky with a resume that includes playing for uk and scoring more points than anyone ever in high school?


If the pro's of getting to play "more" somewhere else are simply because he really likes playing basketball and he's competitive, with no real illusions that he'll be a pro, then I must say, as I have said in other threads, that it's a huge mistake when you consider the implications that playing basketball at UK have on future career opportunities.


IF professional basketball is not an option, then riding the bench at UK is far far far more lucrative, in terms of his future prospects, than scoring 1k points at South Carolina.


How anyone can just ignore this because "the kid just wants to compete!!" is asinine.
 
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This is my reading of what’s happening. In high school TP was very successful. One of his HS rivals was Reed. TP thought he as good as Reed if not better. He tried hard and broke Kentucky HS scoring record. While he was doing that he saw Reed playing significant minutes for Kentucky and Calipari. He also saw Reed being lottery pick in NBA.

He got recruited by Cal, probably thought he would be next Reed. I mean why not , they battle in HS, he scored even more points.

Here comes the miscalculation. Reed is from a Kentucky basketball pedigree with parents playing basketball at high level. Reed got blessed with athletic abilities and very high IQ where he could anticipate plays and skip and overcome certain freshman shortcomings and other limitations that he has in which I will not get into.

Those limitations that Reed had got exposed in certain games while he played for Kentucky but even more so in NBA.

When you play against higher level competitors all your weaknesses and current limitations will be exposed. Thus, not all great hs players become great college players and no all great college players are great nba players.

Perry is not Reed but he doesn’t know that . He had a nice spot at Kentucky for himself but he wanted more. Well , good luck to him.
 

HogFan2012

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No offense but someone who is able to justify the concept of being both a Kentucky fan and a Hog fan really doesn’t have a reliable hand in discussing how rivalries are seen by sports fans.
You don't even know where he's going to play and you already hate him.
None of the schools listed will he get playing time except Western KY. That would be a good and justified move for him.
 

ImTheVillageIdiot

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Perry should never, ever be "booed" no matter where he goes. He was the only recruit we had at one point and hung in there while we put a team together.
He was willing to work so hard to force Calipari to play him….

When he was required to do the same for Pope he bailed…

I’m a Perry guy but if he goes to a rival school, he will get booed and rightfully so.
 
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ImTheVillageIdiot

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You don't even know where he's going to play and you already hate him.
None of the schools listed will he get playing time except Western KY. That would be a good and justified move for him.
No I don’t. You must not be familiar with me. I’m one of the most pro-Perry posters on this site lol. I’m just honest —- if he goes to a rival school, we are not going to hold his hand and thank him immensely for being born here.
 
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JwUKFan11

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So why waste your time or mental energy on it?

I never got this thinking especially in today’s landscape. You don’t want to be here? Good luck to you sir and if we play you I hope you’re on the wrong end of it.

Not saying you do personally but a lot of folks treat these things like an affront to God.
What are you even going on about? What is the point you want to make? That we shouldn't talk about or discuss other players once they decide to leave UK? Then stop spending time on a basketball forum is that's how you feel.

I said if a Ky boy goes to a rival he would be booed and hated for it. Not that he would care, even though I think he would.
 

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What are you even going on about? What is the point you want to make? That we shouldn't talk about or discuss other players once they decide to leave UK? Then stop spending time on a basketball forum is that's how you feel.

I said if a Ky boy goes to a rival he would be booed and hated for it. Not that he would care, even though I think he would.

Okay bud
 

FLBBNFAN

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Seems unlikely.
Have you heard our coach speak about him or anyone else?
They are all super fantastic.
Just seems unlikely.
That is all.
I agree. Pope has always spoken very well about him. The truth is Pope is doing his job and getting the best guys here. Perry isn't one of the best guys right now. Maybe in a year he would be but not with our current group.

I don't blame the kid for wanting to play and to chase his dream. Better to go for it and fail than sitting on the bench and wondering what could of been.

I wish him the best and we still have 3 Kentucky kids on the roster to root for.
 

CrimsonCats_rivals

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So what are the pro's of getting to play "more" somewhere else? I think if we know the answer to this then it would help us in understanding the decision.

Is he seeking more playing time for more exposure to showcase his skills in hopes of a professional career as a basketball player? If so, then it makes sense. Will that be in the NBA, I highly highly doubt it. But I suppose it's not unreasonable to think he might carve out a career over seas. If so, what are his potential earnings from playing overseas? Is it more than he could make in business in a state like kentucky with a resume that includes playing for uk and scoring more points than anyone ever in high school?


If the pro's of getting to play "more" somewhere else are simply because he really likes playing basketball and he's competitive, with no real illusions that he'll be a pro, then I must say, as I have said in other threads, that it's a huge mistake when you consider the implications that playing basketball at UK have on future career opportunities.


IF professional basketball is not an option, then riding the bench at UK is far far far more lucrative, in terms of his future prospects, than scoring 1k points at South Carolina.


How anyone can just ignore this because "the kid just wants to compete!!" is asinine.
You keep saying this in every thread about Perry, but I think you’re vastly overstating the case. Sure, if he did something to become an absolute legend, then some of the endorsement deals might be a little better in a basketball crazy state like Kentucky.

I have a very hard time buying it that being a 4 year victory cigar means he’s set for life just because it’s Kentucky and is far preferable to having an actual playing career somewhere else though. The kind of networking that would allow him to move into some kind of sales job or high school coaching after he graduates absolutely exists at other schools too.
 
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Skyguyb27

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Do you really believe his agent?
It's like your looking at a car on a used lot and the salesman says he got others looking at it also but if you make a deposit he will hold it for you.

Western KY for the win. Gets to stay in KY and should get playing time.
I get what you’re saying and I’m on board with it 100%……except Oats was in town (granted we don’t know why) and this article I linked was a Louisville News not his agent or anyone else linked to UK.
 

Skyguyb27

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One thing you were apparently missing is the other 2 threads on this topic.
Nah those were filled with smart asses like you. Was hoping to have a good conversation. Do you sleep ok knowing there’s more than 1 post on something? Do you pay rent to read said threads. Who gives a **** really. Not my fault your little ocd issue bothers you.
 
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Brassow2Wall

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You keep saying this in every thread about Perry, but I think you’re vastly overstating the case. Sure, if he did something to become an absolute legend, then some of the endorsement deals might be a little better in a basketball crazy state like Kentucky.

I have a very hard time buying it that being a 4 year victory cigar means he’s set for life just because it’s Kentucky and is far preferable to having an actual playing career somewhere else though. The kind of networking that would allow him to move into some kind of sales job or high school coaching after he graduates absolutely exists at other schools too.


Maybe. You could be right. But he has an even bigger claim to the "spoils" of UK basketball alumni status, and that is his being the all-time leading scorer in KY high school basketball history. It's a special combination that no one has ever had, not even King Kelly Coleman as he didn't play at UK. I believe this places him in rarified air honestly, when it comes to legendary status.

Could he leverage a playing career elsewhere into a successful career? Sure. But you are correct in that I believe his prospects would be far better having the luxury of kentucky basketball alumni on his resume.
 

Game Se7en

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Most of our fan base did that same thing to Cal and the returnees.

And that makes it right? lol. Whatever, but we all know it's pretty sad behavior for an adult to boo a kid they don't even know over a dang game. lmfao
 

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I saw where Beard was making an in home visit with him today. It sounds like Ole Miss is very interested.
Beard and Ole Miss were in on him first. They recruited him harder than any other school. He was and is still wanted there. Eddyville is closer or as close to Oxford as it is to Lexington so it is near home. He let his heart take over despite knowing that he was not wanted by the previous coaching staff at UK. He let his heart overrule the people that truly wanted him. I have been following UK basketball since 1962. I am 71 years old. I have never seen a kid be so criticized, and I would be willing to be bet that 95% of all the criticism is coming on this blog site is coming from "UK fans" that have been fans only during the previous coaches tenure. I can never remember under any of the previous coaches that there was such disdain for Kentucky high school players as the previous staff had for them. There have been All American and other great Kentuckians that played for UK. There have been even more that were solid contributors to those that played very little and never do I remember fans attacking the later group of players. These are probably the same experts/know it alls that said Travis needed to go to Mountains of Lyon County. I hope he goes to Oxford and absolutely torches UK.
 

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I can’t fathom anyone booing a player just because they weren’t good enough to play at Kentucky.
That makes absolutely no sense.
 
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UK90

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Is it more than he could make in business in a state like kentucky with a resume that includes playing for uk and scoring more points than anyone ever in high school?
He still has that resume. He doesn’t stop being the KHSAA all time leading scorer and a former UK player because he entered the portal.

It ain’t like the state is gonna shun him now. He’ll still be hugely popular and have plenty of future opportunities here if he wants them.
 
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I wished Perry would have stayed at UK, but in this era, I guess this is going to be the new norm.

I could see him transferring to one of the smaller local schools to build up his numbers and rep and then jump back into the NIL portal in the next year or two. But to see a Kentucky high school legend leave UK and go to a conference rival or to an out of state school seems crazy to me.

Maybe he just wants to play in a more traditional point guard type of an offense??

This season he had four games where he had the opportunity to start and play a lot of minutes, his numbers were just meh.
28-mpg/ 31.3-fg%/ 31.6-3pt%/ 81.8-ft%/ 2.0-rbpg/ 1.8-astpg/ 0-blkpg/ 1.5-stpg/ 1.8-pfpg/ 2.0-topg/ 8.8-ptpg
 

MegaBlue05

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Perry should never, ever be "booed" no matter where he goes. He was the only recruit we had at one point and hung in there while we put a team together.

I boo every Louisville Cardinal, Tennessee Volunteer, North Carolina Tarheel, Duke Blue Devil, Kansas Jayhawk, Indiana Hoosier, Uconn Husky or Arkansas Razorback no matter who is on the team and that includes blood relatives.

I’ve never once cheered a rival player because of where he was born.
 

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I boo every Louisville Cardinal, Tennessee Volunteer, North Carolina Tarheel, Duke Blue Devil, Kansas Jayhawk, Indiana Hoosier, Uconn Husky or Arkansas Razorback no matter who is on the team and that includes blood relatives.

I’ve never once cheered a rival player because of where he was born.

He was the 1st player of the Pope era. He's not just some rival. Nice try, though.

Happy booing. Players that actually played sports at a high level use it as motivation, so the joke's on the boo bird. Enjoy !!
 

MegaBlue05

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He still has that resume. He doesn’t stop being the KHSAA all time leading scorer and a former UK player because he entered the portal.

It ain’t like the state is gonna shun him now. He’ll still be hugely popular and have plenty of future opportunities here if he wants them.

I have a feeling if he chooses UT, UL or Arkansas, the state will indeed shun him.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Or….

He wants to play and just not ride the bench and collect a check.
Some said he would have gotten around $200,000 next year at UK.

I doubt he gets much more anywhere else. The smart choice would have been to redshirt, collect the money again, and then come back.

By his senior year at UK, he's probably a rotation player and is making $400,000 at that point.

Year one: $150,000
Year two (redshirt): $200,000
Year three: $250,000
Year four: $300,000
Year five: $400,000

That's a pretty conservative estimate.

That's at least $1.3 million before taxes. He's paying $52,000 in state income tax and another $480,000 in federal income tax.

He could have walked out of UK as a 23 year-old with around $770,000 in post-tax cash.
Buy a nice house @$300,000
Buy a decent car @60,000
Give some to family and God @80,000

Then take the last $330,000 and invest that money while he goes off a plays in a multi-year foreign career.



He won't even make that kind of money playing overseas.
 

UKWildcats1987

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This board and it's obsession with someone of the comparable importance of a practice squad nfl qb is comical.

As I said the other day, we will have more threads about this than OO if he unexpectedly stays n the NBA draft.

But it's about final fours and titles here lol.
 
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Wunky

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Beard and Ole Miss were in on him first. They recruited him harder than any other school. He was and is still wanted there. Eddyville is closer or as close to Oxford as it is to Lexington so it is near home. He let his heart take over despite knowing that he was not wanted by the previous coaching staff at UK. He let his heart overrule the people that truly wanted him. I have been following UK basketball since 1962. I am 71 years old. I have never seen a kid be so criticized, and I would be willing to be bet that 95% of all the criticism is coming on this blog site is coming from "UK fans" that have been fans only during the previous coaches tenure. I can never remember under any of the previous coaches that there was such disdain for Kentucky high school players as the previous staff had for them. There have been All American and other great Kentuckians that played for UK. There have been even more that were solid contributors to those that played very little and never do I remember fans attacking the later group of players. These are probably the same experts/know it alls that said Travis needed to go to Mountains of Lyon County. I hope he goes to Oxford and absolutely torches UK.

I used to like your posts, but lately you’ve become something of a caricature. What the hell kind of UK fan actively wishes for an opposing player to light up the Cats? And your comment about Perry being the most criticized player since 1962 is just absurd. I can think of about 30 players just since the 90’s that caught more flack than Perry, and that was before social media existed. Get off his nuts. He’s an elite shooter, a good ball handler, and a fundamentally sound hustle player that will grab a big board or get a big steal when you don’t expect it. His defense against anyone with a pulse is absolutely atrocious. It is what it is. You want to hate on this fanbase? All most of us wanted was for the kid to stay and commit to getting better defensively. Instead, he’s choosing to move to a less talented roster somewhere that needs his scoring punch so bad that they are willing to turn a blind eye to his ****** defense. That’s fine… his choice. I hope our guards make him look like he’s standing in cement… because I’m a Kentucky Wildcat fan, not a “great white hope from Kentucky” fan. And this is coming from a guy who grew up watching the unforgettables, Travis Ford, etc.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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This board and it's obsession with someone of the comparable importance of a practice squad nfl qb is comical.

As I said the other day, we will have more threads about this than OO if he unexpectedly stays n the NBA draft.

But it's about final fours and titles here lol.
Why is it comical to discuss Perry? He's a kid we've followed for a few years. Plus, it's April 25th and it's portal season. Our fans care about Final Fours and discussing a guy like Perry. It's part of what makes this place Kentucky.

And if Oweh leaves, I can almost guarantee you the meltdown here would be exponentially greater.