Positive Wilson update

Padsfs07

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Let UNC over spend to make a quick headline! Wilson is not worth anywhere near what he’s wanting, and I’ll say that about any incoming freshman!

Save the money and get a high profile portal dude that’s 3x better than Wilson, for 1/3rd of the price! MCBB is not a freshman’s game anymore with the transfer portal.

Newell looked pretty good against our transfers Tuesday.
 

Someguywhodoesntlikeyou

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Except that Hubert Davis is still their coach. So even if they get Wilson, they’ll still be the ones losing.

I’m not talking about just Wilson.

If we start conceding the top tier talent to the Dukes and UConn’s because of some nostalgia longing for how things “used to be” or we don’t want to pay then we will be IU in five-ten years.
 

Tayshaun4Three

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I’m not talking about just Wilson.

If we start conceding the top tier talent to the Dukes and UConn’s because of some nostalgia longing for how things “used to be” or we don’t want to pay then we will be IU in five-ten years.
Unless you believe a portal player may offer better value.
 

aceman509

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I am not trying to do the whole "well we didnt need him anyway" when we lose out on a recruit, but I saw him play a game about a month ago and came away very unimpressed.

I don't think I have ever seen a lazier, less engaged player in any competitive sport at any level in my entire life. 8 year old softball players have more enthusiasm. Now, in his defense it was a high school game and they were winning by 20 the whole time, and he clearly is athletic and can pass. But he spent 90% of the game on offense standing in the corner not moving, and would lightly jog back on defense, completely out of the play.

Hopefully Pope cleans that up and I caught him on a bad night effort wise, but that was my take away.
 

Tayshaun4Three

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I am not trying to do the whole "well we didnt need him anyway" when we lose out on a recruit, but I saw him play a game about a month ago and came away very unimpressed.

I don't think I have ever seen a lazier, less engaged player in any competitive sport at any level in my entire life. 8 year old softball players have more enthusiasm. Now, in his defense it was a high school game and they were winning by 20 the whole time, and he clearly is athletic and can pass. But he spent 90% of the game on offense standing in the corner not moving, and would lightly jog back on defense, completely out of the play.

Hopefully Pope cleans that up and I caught him on a bad night effort wise, but that was my take away.
Well, truthfully we don’t need him anyway.
 

BarefootBeach_anon

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If the kid looks at how unc uses their bigs and likes that better then good riddance. To me there is no comparison and I've watched unc 3 or 4 times this year. Fortunately, if he goes to unc we still have a couple of hs options and undoubtedly some good portal options. I trust pope on this one.
 

G-PIP

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I’m not talking about just Wilson.

If we start conceding the top tier talent to the Dukes and UConn’s because of some nostalgia longing for how things “used to be” or we don’t want to pay then we will be IU in five-ten years.
I don’t care how much money is paid to any player from athletic dept. revenue or NIL. Why should any of us? But I do want UK to have the best team possible. So, if the budget for putting the team together is limited such that attracting an OAD freshman means an inability to keep good/promising returning players and bring in the best portal transfers, then I say let the OAD kid go – they’re not important enough to winning in college to justify that.

That said, I think UK is still in the top echelon of $$$ ability and can almost always get who they want from a financial standpoint. Just saying if it did come down to having to choose between an OAD freshman and multiple other good players, or even just the top portal player at the same position, usually (almost always) go with the returning players or top portal guy due to a generally bigger impact on winning games.
 
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chasingwildcat

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I believe that Jasper Johnson was a Alabama "lock" according to national anaylists


However, it turns out to be false as Jasper wanted to commit to us several times before he finally made decision.

Hopefully same thing happens for Wilson
 

Tayshaun4Three

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I believe that Jasper Johnson was a Alabama "lock" according to national anaylists


However, it turns out to be false as Jasper wanted to commit to us several times before he finally made decision.

Hopefully same thing happens for Wilson
True. My concern though if Wilson is trying to leverage for even more NIL, I’m hoping Pope draws a line at a point. There’s an honest argument to be made that portal players could be better than Wilson if he is a OAD. I trust Pope at the end of the day but I’m good with or without Wilson
 

true-blue1

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If Wilson decides to go to UNC we definitely need a back up plan maybe a reclassification player like Miikka Muurinen.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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If given the choice, I would prefer that Kentucky goes winless every year in football if it meant we dominated basketball again.

We're never going to do anything in football anyway. Never have, never will.

Give the NIL money to the basketball program. That's who we are.

Screw this "never a bride, always a bridesmaid" mentality that the football program has.
 

Someguywhodoesntlikeyou

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I don’t care how much money is paid to any player from athletic dept. revenue or NIL. Why should any of us? But I do want UK to have the best team possible. So, if the budget for putting the team together is limited such that attracting an OAD freshman means an inability to keep good/promising returning players and bring in the best portal transfers, then I say let the OAD kid go – they’re not important enough to winning in college to justify that.

That said, I think UK is still in the top echelon of $$$ ability and can almost always get who they want from a financial standpoint. Just saying if it did come down to having to choose between an OAD freshman and multiple other good players, or even just the top portal player at the same position, usually (almost always) go with the returning players or top portal guy due to a generally bigger impact on winning games.

UConn had three freshman/ sophomore lottery picks on their national championship teams.

You need the mix of elite talent and veterans when you are at our level. Duke/Uconn/Kansas level. Something our last coach was portly suited to understanding.

I don’t think Pope intends to make the same error.
 

chasingwildcat

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Wilson must be third or fourth option in our offense if he comes here.

But if he goes to UNC, he thinks he may be the first option, the "guy" on their roster.

This may be his thinking, he may not want to be role players for us and instead want to be the "star" and no.1 option in unc. He can show more for his nba draft stock, which may be more important for him than winning games in college basketball

So if he goes to UNC, it makes sense in basketball wise

Still want him here, think he can be Jonathan Isaac type player and a solid starter.
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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If given the choice, I would prefer that Kentucky goes winless every year in football if it meant we dominated basketball again.

We're never going to do anything in football anyway. Never have, never will.

Give the NIL money to the basketball program. That's who we are.

Screw this "never a bride, always a bridesmaid" mentality that the football program has.
You know that.
 

chasingwildcat

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I believe this also I just think the NC chitter chat is just trying to create buzz to try and throw people on the NC train.
Hard to say.

He can become the absolute core on the court, control the ball, and have unlimited shooting privileges if he goes to UNC. UNC will lack of solid players next year. He must only play more limited role in UK.

So he may think going to UNC is more helpful for his draft stock. If he get 16+8 in UNC, his draft stock is definitely higher than getting likes of 11+7 in UK. He could show more offensive skills with ball handling in his hand, which could be very helpful for his draft stock

He goes to UNC is reasonable. Being the core of the team is not always helpful for player development but definitely will make his stats better for draft stock. He may not be better player in long term but could be drafted in higher picks and makes more money instantly.

I definitely could see he goes to UNC for this kind of reasons
 

bbnkat02

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I don't get too upset by recruiting much, but if he goes to UNC after the disaster they seem to be having, college sports dies a little more. Like, why?
 
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OmahaCats

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Not a huge loss if he goes to UNC. The 3 guys we have committed are more talented than anyone we have on the team. If we have 5 guys come back, then I’m fine with getting 4 higher level portal players so we still have that veteran presence
 

Padsfs07

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Gonna be different when Pope can pick and choose rather than having to construct an entire roster through the portal.


That's a good point. I'd still like to have Wilson. If Almonor gets his '5th' year and comes back, I really like that combo at C/PF/SF, but we are still laking an elite guard from the portal.

C Garrison Moreno
PF Wilson Almonor
SF Oweh Chandler Noah
SG Johnson
PG Lewis/Krissa/Perry
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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Not a huge loss if he goes to UNC. The 3 guys we have committed are more talented than anyone we have on the team. If we have 5 guys come back, then I’m fine with getting 4 higher level portal players so we still have that veteran presence
It’s a win win either way, either we get a top flight prospect or we have about 1 million, 1.5 even reported we can spend in the portal extra. That would get 2 really good players.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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That's a good point. I'd still like to have Wilson. If Almonor gets his '5th' year and comes back, I really like that combo at C/PF/SF, but we are still laking an elite guard from the portal.

C Garrison Moreno
PF Wilson Almonor
SF Oweh Chandler Noah
SG Johnson
PG Lewis/Krissa/Perry
Grab a stud SG, and a stud big man who can play the 4/5. Go into the season with 2 studs at every position. I believe we only have 5 that can return though so we would need 4 portal options. I don’t think Kriisa/Almonor can return.
 

JimboBBN

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If we want to have the best chance at winning titles, we need talent and experience. Should have the experience part down between Oweh, BG, Noah, Perry, and Chandler.

Pairing Johnson, Lewis, and MM with Wilson would be the ideal scenario to go with what we have back.
 

Ron Mehico

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We need to get a Chaz Lanier/Dalton Knecht type. Only way to do that is by building a relationship right now through back channels which Pope couldn’t do here last year for obvious reasons. If you guys remember when Lanier entered portal last year he initially had a do not contact clause except for Tennessee. It was a done deal before he even entered the portal. I’d take one of those over a freshman any day of the week.
 

Tayshaun4Three

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It’s a win win either way, either we get a top flight prospect or we have about 1 million, 1.5 even reported we can spend in the portal extra. That would get 2 really good players.
Gimme the portal guys over the OAD. We already have a couple dynamic guys coming in and you only need a couple of those. Fit pieces/specialists who are completely bought in will work better in all the other positions and then you can go all in on a stud portal PG to run the ship.
 

SkyPrince1

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Yes 15 scholarships starting next year.
We won't have that many actually on scholarship unless Pope makes the walk on players scholly.
Bottom line kids who can actually play don't want to be on a 15 man roster.
Why develop for another team when they hit the portal?
It changes from year to year but if you have a really strong starting five you can get by easy with 10 on scholarship.
 

Jamal Mercer

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Whenever it seems like everyone and their brother knows a recruit is going to pick UK, some story comes out that he is on the fence, or is going to pick another school. This always happens right before the recruit announces UK.


He's picking UK.
 
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GoBIG BLUE

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That's a good point. I'd still like to have Wilson. If Almonor gets his '5th' year and comes back, I really like that combo at C/PF/SF, but we are still laking an elite guard from the portal.

C Garrison Moreno
PF Wilson Almonor
SF Oweh Chandler Noah
SG Johnson
PG Lewis/Krissa/Perry
How will krissa return? Red shirt?
 
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