Pre tournament: As I see it

[Halldan]

Once you get by the top 4 the rest is a crapshoot



1 St John's 28-6 18-2
There's no question they are #1

2 UConn 29-5 17-3
Not playing as well late in the season

3 Villanova 24-8 15-5
Not confident they'll go far

4 Seton Hall 21-12 10-10
Small consolation but they played Pitino better than anyone else

5 Creighton 15-17 9-11
Hate to see McDermott go out this way

6 Butler 16-16 7-13
Lost 9 of their last 12

7 Georgetown 16-18 6-14
At least they went out on their shield

8 Providence 15-18 7-13
Do not agree with the NET/Kenpom that have them the 5th best team in the conference

9 DePaul 16-16 8-12
Metrics say they are grossly overrated by some

10 Xavier 15-18 6-14
Lost 6 of last 8

11 Marquette 12-20 7-13
Again, do not agree with the metrics. Worst team in the league

 

[Halldan]

Curious to see other opinions as after the Pirates you can reasonably list most anyone anywhere with a few exceptions.

 

[SPK145]

1 - St. John's
2 - UCONN

3 - Villanova


4 - Seton Hall

5 - Creighton
6 - Georgetown
7 - Butler
8 - DePaul

9 - Providence
10 - Marquette
11 - Xavier

 

[Halldan]

Is that from your index or the eye test?

 

[SPK145]

Is that from your index or the eye test?

Mostly eye test.

Per my Index (which is not updated for conference tournaments):

Connecticut
St. John's (NY)
Villanova
Seton Hall
Butler
Creighton
Providence
DePaul
Xavier
Georgetown
Marquette

 

[Halldan]

NET

10 UConn
15 SJU
35 Nova
53 Seton Hall
81 Providence
83 Creighton
84 Butler
90 Georgetown
93 Marquette
97 Xavier
102 DePaul

 

[joeyklings]

Mostly eye test.

Per my Index (which is not updated for conference tournaments):

Connecticut
St. John's (NY)
Villanova
Seton Hall
Butler
Creighton
Providence
DePaul
Xavier
Georgetown
Marquette

So you’re higher on Bizjack?

 

[joeyklings]

1. St Johns
Significant Gap
2. Uconn
3. Nova
Significant Gap
4. Hall
5. Creighton
6. Butler
7. Depaul
8. Gtown
9. Prov
10. Marq
11. X

 

[jack 1970]

Once you get by the top 4 the rest is a crapshoot



1 St John's 28-6 18-2
There's no question they are #1

2 UConn 29-5 17-3
Not playing as well late in the season

3 Villanova 24-8 15-5
Not confident they'll go far

4 Seton Hall 21-12 10-10
Small consolation but they played Pitino better than anyone else

5 Creighton 15-17 9-11
Hate to see McDermott go out this way

6 Butler 16-16 7-13
Lost 9 of their last 12

7 Georgetown 16-18 6-14
At least they went out on their shield

8 Providence 15-18 7-13
Do not agree with the NET/Kenpom that have them the 5th best team in the conference

9 DePaul 16-16 8-12
Metrics say they are grossly overrated by some

10 Xavier 15-18 6-14
Lost 6 of last 8

11 Marquette 12-20 7-13
Again, do not agree with the metrics. Worst team in the league

BE is in decline as evidently can't compete on NIL basis except for UConn,SJU and Nova.

School Administrations have to face reality as conference is sinking to mid-tier level.