Don't waste your time.17-10 RU
Having a difficult time understanding Shelby’s logic
Rutgers vs Michigan State - Prediction Thread
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Maybe - but I feel a little better about this game after listening to Greg’s presser. His tone seemed pre V-Tech like to me. Cautiously optimistic about the match up. He didn’t sound that way before the Wisconsin game where the whole time he kept harping on how good they were on both sides of the ball. Of course, this doesn’t mean anything if we don’t execute on gameday.
I also liked his reaction when questioned on the possible QB change. He described Kim’s potential replacement as a pocket passer. Reading between the lines, I’d say he’d probably welcome this change. Our run D has looked solid when threat of QB draw or scramble wasn’t there.
Defense could repeat performance of game at MSU in 2020, when they forced multiple turnovers. Offense will not have to do too much, except control the ball.
19-10 Rutgers
19-10 Rutgers
While I get the point, MST is going to gameplan for mostly against the run even if 70 and sunny with no wind. Meanwhile- MST relies more on a passing attack. The rain will make that easier for us to defend.
Yes, but he did. RU seems to make a lot more mistakes and be on the wrong end of screw referee calls compared to other teams. RU occasionally beats MSU so they don’t have our number like PSU, OSU, UM, Minny, Wisconsin, Iowa and Nebraska.
MSU is a mess and RU is at home. Avoid the pick-6, blown assignments, complete 50% of passes and get a fair deal on penalties.
Expect a win … something like 24-13.
For better or worse, if a biased whistle really is a thing (I’m not saying it is) I can’t imagine we’d be on the wrong end of it Saturday. First, we’re home so the crowd factor will favor us. Conspiracy theory wise, it would be better for the conference right now (or at worst neutral) for us to win this game. A 6+ win Rutgers and hype for the local tristate team is good for the BIG.
Which mistakes are we more prone to? We are 4th in the B1G on least penalized and 16 in the nation on TO margin and 3 in the B1g for TO margin.
MST is 127 in the nation in TO margin MST is also last in the B1G for most penalized and they have only played 5 games. -
The ref calls- I agree but we are far from mistake prone. and certainly do not make a lot more mistakes than MST...
Yes even at home we have gotten screwed on an important call which definitely impacted game. Remember the play where a touchdown to the RU TE was called back . O lineman several yards downfield( really?) . Was it a Louisville game not 2006?
What’s a pouring light drizzle ? Is that anything like a one pound quarter pounder at McDonald’s ?
If MSU pulls the upset I’d imagine there will be a lot of “MSU is different without Tucker. Two different teams. Only 3pt spread isn’t really an upset. We got screwed by them getting rid of Tucker.”
Ha. I don’t think so . I think even the the schiano fans like myself will melt down. Even guys like al will probably melt down as we face another disaster season
he doesn't realize that if it is a wet rainy day- the team that relies on passing is effected more than the team that relies on the run. Mst has 1250 yds in the air 600 on the ground(almost all by Carter)
Rutgers has 967 in the air and 1040 on the ground.
you are wrong on that. I wouldn't care where that happened, that program should have been shut down. All the more reason I have zero respect for the ncaa. If that happened at RU I'd still say shut it down
that said, MSU wins 24-10 as I don't see our running game beating them. MSU is solid vs the run
yup, rain favors the run baby!!!!!!!!
but it looks like it is clearing up which had me saying earlier, 'God hates Rutgers'
too funny. great for the fans but the rain would have put us even more in favor.
I will say this though for this game- this is the first game since Flood where I feel we should beat a team that has traditionally been better than us.
truthfully, I was hoping for a downpour and my son is supposed to play in a baseball tournament this weekend so for the jerkoffs out there with their 'faux fan' bs, I put RU over my son playing baseball.... fks (he's played in 5 tournments since sept1 so I'm also good with a break
I don't know, I think MSU has talent and their lines are still better than our lines. They've played well against the run and they get upfield pressure. I just don't have confidence in our offense to be honest but you know this
I still think MSU wins and with the int last week, Greg will be more conservative early
This is the one thing I worry about, they do have a good run defense. On the other hand- we have a pretty good pass defense.truthfully, I was hoping for a downpour and my son is supposed to play in a baseball tournament this weekend so for the jerkoffs out there with their 'faux fan' bs, I put RU over my son playing baseball.... fks (he's played in 5 tournments since sept1 so I'm also good with a break
I don't know, I think MSU has talent and their lines are still better than our lines. They've played well against the run and they get upfield pressure. I just don't have confidence in our offense to be honest but you know this
I still think MSU wins and with the int last week, Greg will be more conservative early
Also, looking closer, MAryland and Washnington moved the ball on the ground pretty well on them. They just happened to shut down Richmond, Central Mich and Iowa.
Who exactly do you not have respect for ? Do you know who makes the NCAA policies which guide decisions ?
Based on your answer, it seems you don’t understand what the NCAA is.
Udub is awesome, should be top 5. MD offense is hard to pin down, osu struggled too.
Here’s a tip. The word is ‘affected’. Normally I stop reading when the moron line is crossed but I’m in a sporting mood so I’ll bend my rules for you. Where you’re wrong is, just because a team has more passing yards than rushing yards it doesn’t mean their running game isn’t also better. Apples to oranges. It depends who they played, who their Qb is, etc. Every matchup is different. In sloppy weather, it’s better to have a reduced passing game than hardly any at all. I can’t even imagine the accuracy issues GW will have with a wet ball.
And if he gets outplayed by a freshman first time starter at home and we lose this critical game, I think the fat lady is starting to sing on his career here.
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What does this even mean ? First time since flood ? We have only had one coach in between then. You must have a really low opinion of rutgers football .
Even ash beat Illinois and purdue - 2 programs traditionally better . Schiano 2.0 has already beaten Virginia tech, BC , Syracuse. .. all programs “traditionally better”.
Northwestern has been traditionally better and we beat them !
Schiano also beat Michigan state already !
Very concerning that you didn’t feel we could beat any of those teams as you said.
But yet we did.
Talk about being a negative Nancy !
bad take…he just doesn’t know the history. Every P5 program is ‘traditionally better’ but we expected to win a few, and we did.
Nobody knew what to expect before that Schiano 2.0 win over MSU. Very few besides RutgersAl EXPECTED a win. Traditionally better, to me that means .MSU, Iowa, Wisconsin and Minnesota besides the Big 3. Possibly Maryland except they're so damned inconsistant.
VaTech does count. Now, how many years in the B1G and we have heard many times we should hope to become a Mich St like program.
I have not once heard anyone say we should try to be a BC NWU or Cuse type program…
Illinois and Purdue were also pretty bead for a long time.
And yes, Greg beat Mich State previously- maybe you missed when I said since the Flood years.
Good story though…Maybe Shelby’s post “affected “your thought process…lol
Rutgers Scarlet Knights 92
Michigan State Spartans 3
As always, I reserve the right to modify my prediction as we get closer to game time.
Michigan State Spartans 3
As always, I reserve the right to modify my prediction as we get closer to game time.
I love RU but once again I can't pass up MSU +89.5 and the Under.