SDS 5 Week 1 Upsets (yep, we're one)

GloryDawg

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Their coach last season would not have done any better against our schedule. So what if they finished 29 spots ahead of us.
 
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we aren't losing that game....we have flipped the roster, added size, speed and most importantly depth on the defensive side of the ball....we scored a lot of points last year with having a true freshman running a system with a first year head coach....we are now year 2 and better at every position....USM is in the position we were in last year....vegas has us anywhere from 11 to 15....i say we cover easily....
 

85Bears

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Aug 31, 2019
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we aren't losing that game....we have flipped the roster, added size, speed and most importantly depth on the defensive side of the ball....we scored a lot of points last year with having a true freshman running a system with a first year head coach....we are now year 2 and better at every position....USM is in the position we were in last year....vegas has us anywhere from 11 to 15....i say we cover easily....
They aren’t in the position we were in last year, they brought in good players through the portal, we brought in awful players for the most part. Big difference
 
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bolddogge

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They aren’t in the position we were in last year, they brought in good players through the portal, we brought in awful players for the most part. Big difference
Care to expound on this? All of the portal rankings I've looked at have Southern Miss so far down they don't even show up in the top 50.
 

Bulldawg77

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Dec 1, 2019
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They aren’t in the position we were in last year, they brought in good players through the portal, we brought in awful players for the most part. Big difference
Are you saying we brought in awful players from the portal this past portal cycle 24/25?. And what linemen did they bring in that you consider good. Or is just another 85 trying to pull BS out his ***
 
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patdog

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May 28, 2007
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we aren't losing that game....we have flipped the roster, added size, speed and most importantly depth on the defensive side of the ball....we scored a lot of points last year with having a true freshman running a system with a first year head coach....we are now year 2 and better at every position....USM is in the position we were in last year....vegas has us anywhere from 11 to 15....i say we cover easily....
If by flipping the roster you mean replacing a bunch of 3* players with a bunch of different 3* players then yeah, we’ve flipped the roster. But the talent still isn’t there to compete in the SEC. It’s still better than Southern Miss though.
 
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Dawgg

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Sep 9, 2012
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Toledo is two to three TDs better than Southern Miss.
Well, we lost to Toledo by 24, so that still gives Southern Miss a 3-10 point cushion.

ETA: I think we win this game, but I don’t think it’s outlandish to think we lose it either.
 
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Drebin

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Aug 22, 2012
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we aren't losing that game....we have flipped the roster, added size, speed and most importantly depth on the defensive side of the ball....we scored a lot of points last year with having a true freshman running a system with a first year head coach....we are now year 2 and better at every position....USM is in the position we were in last year....vegas has us anywhere from 11 to 15....i say we cover easily....
We are not better at every position. We've gone backwards at WR, and the OL is a complete unknown. We might have improved on the DL but I'd advise watching us play before passing judgement on how much better we are there....you shouldn't always believe the puff pieces and the coach speak. We did not get better at corner. We got worse at safety because we moved our one all SEC player, a safety, to linebacker.
 

Drebin

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Aug 22, 2012
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Well, we lost to Toledo by 24, so that still gives Southern Miss a 3-10 point cushion.

ETA: I think we win this game, but I don’t think it’s outlandish to think we lose it either.
It would be so outlandish to lose that game that the entire coaching staff shouldn't be allowed on the bus after the game if it happens.

Even if we win by 10 points or less, the coaching staff should be left in hattiesburg.
 

patdog

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May 28, 2007
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We are not better at every position. We've gone backwards at WR, and the OL is a complete unknown. We might have improved on the DL but I'd advise watching us play before passing judgement on how much better we are there....you shouldn't always believe the puff pieces and the coach speak. We did not get better at corner. We got worse at safety because we moved our one all SEC player, a safety, to linebacker.
I’m reading stories about the intense competition on OL & DL and that nothing is settled yet. That tells me that either we have a lot of really good players & no one can really separate themselves as starters yet. Or we don’t have any good players & no one has stepped up. I’ll let the board decide which is most likely.
 

Howiefeltersnstch

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I feel confident of a victory. I believe the team is improved across the board excrpt corner. Not sure why we didnt sign a good corner. Might be a struggle due to "gelling" or other coachspeak words. But, if we do lose, it's over. That would be a massive kick in the nutts
 

The Cooterpoot

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Sep 29, 2022
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We are not better at every position. We've gone backwards at WR, and the OL is a complete unknown. We might have improved on the DL but I'd advise watching us play before passing judgement on how much better we are there....you shouldn't always believe the puff pieces and the coach speak. We did not get better at corner. We got worse at safety because we moved our one all SEC player, a safety, to linebacker.
This team is better at almost every single position and is way deeper than last season (that's what she said). I think we'll roll USM in a big way but we still won't win more tgan 5 games.
 
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NWADawg

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Care to expound on this? All of the portal rankings I've looked at have Southern Miss so far down they don't even show up in the top 50.
According to the speaking heads, some good Sunbelt players from Marshall followed Huff. Does that translate to good SEC players - TBD.
 

Drebin

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Aug 22, 2012
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This team is better at almost every single position and is way deeper than last season (that's what she said). I think we'll roll USM in a big way but we still won't win more tgan 5 games.
You can say all of those things and you may be right, but there is no evidence of this other than puffy articles. And a lot of this was said last year too.

The OL was so bad we literally bought almost a completely new one who didn't go through spring practice. Our QB is injury prone and we have two brand new guys behind him. I've already commented on WR and defense. We downgraded significantly at WR.

The only area that we are deeper and stronger is at RB - but our starting RB is the same RB who led us to 12th in the conference in rushing last year.

So yeah....I don't really want to hear it. I've got to see it. And I won't learn anything from the Southern game because they suck.
 

paindonthurt

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If by flipping the roster you mean replacing a bunch of 3* players with a bunch of different 3* players then yeah, we’ve flipped the roster. But the talent still isn’t there to compete in the SEC. It’s still better than Southern Miss though.
Pat, you aren’t this dumb.

Thwre is a solid chance our d line is way better than it was last year.

They weren’t 3 stars. I don’t care what the rankings showed.
 
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OG Goat Holder

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He's wrong.

If we don't beat USM by 4 touchdowns, we have even bigger problems than we thought.
That's because we do.

I’m reading stories about the intense competition on OL & DL and that nothing is settled yet. That tells me that either we have a lot of really good players & no one can really separate themselves as starters yet. Or we don’t have any good players & no one has stepped up. I’ll let the board decide which is most likely.
We brought in almost a whole line who didn't even go through spring. This is going to be a disaster.

But even with all that, it's the road part that will bite us. Look at our history with those most recent road G5 games.....Leach lost at Memphis in 2021, way too close vs. Lafayette in NOLA in 2019, beat down La Tech in 2017, at UMass in 2016 was not pretty, and then the 2015 game in Hattiesburg was closer than we wanted with freaking Dak at QB.

And we all remember the horror of 2008 La Tech - when the momentum gets rolling in those openers like that, against bad teams like ours.......we better put them away early.
 

The Peeper

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Feb 26, 2008
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Are you saying we brought in awful players from the portal this past portal cycle 24/25?. And what linemen did they bring in that you consider good. Or is just another 85 trying to pull BS out his ***
I'm not a defender of 85 nor am I predicting a win for USM but did you read the article? They brought in a new coach that won 10 games, his conference, and a bowl last season AND he brought 20 of those conference winning players with him that he's been the HC of for the last 4 seasons.
Our new coach won 2 games last season in his first HC season, had a terrible defense and DC and as someone else posted we lost a bunch of 3 stars and brought in a new bunch of 3 stars. USM flipped their roster much better than we did sounds like so I can see it going either way.
 
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The Cooterpoot

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You can say all of those things and you may be right, but there is no evidence of this other than puffy articles. And a lot of this was said last year too.

The OL was so bad we literally bought almost a completely new one who didn't go through spring practice. Our QB is injury prone and we have two brand new guys behind him. I've already commented on WR and defense. We downgraded significantly at WR.

The only area that we are deeper and stronger is at RB - but our starting RB is the same RB who led us to 12th in the conference in rushing last year.

So yeah....I don't really want to hear it. I've got to see it. And I won't learn anything from the Southern game because they suck.
Our OL was abysmal last season and the offense was still decent with a FR QB and only one decent RB and WR. I'm not worried about the OL, it'll be better. RB is loaded and so is QB. WR we lost a stud and that's the one spot where I think we've got some questions early in the year but we brought in a lot of depth. DL will be massively improved but it couldn't be worse. LB is solid s is solid but CB is really thin. That's not saying we're going to be great, just better than last year
 
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