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bac2therac

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so when Brad counts meaningless Q1 and 2 wins by Nevada and Arizona State and USC how does that factor in

at 18-14, Rutgers record is very sloppy. Its easy to dismiss with the few bad losses and terrible non conference sos

at 19-13 its not as easy.....6 games over 500 vs 4 games over 500

plus would have 6 Q1 wins, if we count Ohio State for schools like Michigan and Penn State and Wisconsin on their resume why not Rutgers
 

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Maybe I’m off the mark, but that does not seem positive to me. I read that to mean that the committee will include the loss in its review.
The way it reads is "they will consider the controversial loss", not "they will consider it "A" controversial loss" as part of the resume. That's a positive. It sure beats "we will not consider the controversial loss".
Correct, and frankly if/when we lose Thursday, I don't want Rutgers to make it. 1) We wouldn't deserve it and 2) All the negative press we'd get for sneaking in despite an end-of-season collapse wouldn't be worth another First Four appearance (and likely loss) in my book.
Oh Rah Rutgers Rah?!?!?! And you don't want Rutgers to continue an NCAA streak when we RARELY ever danced in the past? You are insane. And I have to ask, how much of a Rutgers fan are you? Am I correct that in your world, the hard work each and every player put in over the past year (and the fantastic effort and start to the season) should not be rewarded with a chance to travel and spend at least one last time to compete together because they have not played well over the past few weeks? Wow....just wow.
 

bac2therac

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Oh now there is a difference in high quad 1 wins and middle and low quad 1 wins ?? Is this a new metric someone like brad just came up with ?? Wtf
there is a difference in upper level Q1 wins and lower level Q1 wins, yes those are seperated but the bottom line is a Q1 loss would possibly be considered as a Q1 win..yeah that is pretty ******* important at least to me
 

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this makes a big difference, with a loss i was thinking maybe 20% chance now its at least 50/50
Well I will go a step further and declare anyone with common sense and can read would consider this news only positive. There is no negative. As to Greene’s conspiracy theories , let me opine what this news means , it means we are already in the bracket as either a 10 seed or a protected 11 ( no Dayton ) . They hold their first meeting on Wednesday on the first day of games in the BIG conferences and decide the locks . Then Thursday to Saturday they decide the bubble.
If we were to lose we can get dropped down to Dayton so when they get questions about Rutgers they can say we already had them in the field and losing to a tough Michigan team dropped them to Dayton.
Anyone not understanding how positive this news is has their head up their —-.

To the poster saying the only reason Ohio State is still a Quad 1 is because their win over Rutgers, you are incredible naive and clueless. Ohio State was supposed to be at the top half of the BIG 10 and has an NBA freshman. They are still 63 in the NET and that is despite a 9 game losing streak and losing 10 of 12. They would definitely still be Quad 1 giving us another Quad 1 win.

There is a ton of positive today and the ****** negative posters that can take this as negative and not understand the significance is absolutely mind boggling
 

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They’re not going to consider it a win! They’re not going to change Rutgers record.
Disagree. Essentially they are considering it a win without “officially” changing Rutgers record. I think Aaron’s tweets make that pretty clear. Unsure why so many people are struggling with this. As to whether RU still has to win on Thursday in order to get in, that’s a different consideration… although the fact that the NCAA is getting ahead of this might bode well for us regardless of Thursday’s result.
 

WPUknight

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Very unlikely we get in with a loss Thursday. Just be aware.
Yea this probably just gives me false hope lol. Going to make Friday-Sunday even worse now after the L.
Again, I agree to disagree. Don’t think it’s a big deal. Win Thursday. That’s it
I believe the majority of this board (including myself) can't see this team winning on Thursday, so we're just looking ahead to Sunday already and what the chances are.
 
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there is a difference in upper level Q1 wins and lower level Q1 wins, yes those are seperated but the bottom line is a Q1 loss would possibly be considered as a Q1 win..yeah that is pretty ****ing important at least to me
Yes . I think that means rutgers is penciled in , regardless of losing to Michigan Thursday.
 

Mikemarc

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This board last season: it’s not about the metrics. It’s about the eye test

This board this season: it’s more about the metrics than the eye test.

I think the eye test is what’s going to doom RU. And this news does very little in terms of that. We still struggled pretty badly against a bit so good OSU team
 
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Even if it’s not a win, maybe they just remove the loss. That’s still a big deal
Agree with this on some level as the body of work, in conference, would still be 19 games (10-9). Thus, unofficially at least, it's an above .500 conference record and one less Q1 loss.
 
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They were never going to change the outcome of the game….nor should they.

Missed calls happen all the time in every game…which effect the outcome of games.

The only reason the B10 made a statement was cause it was the end of the game and very noticeable.
You do no
Sounds like an extra bullet point on the notes section to me. Better than nothing I suppose, but doubt it moves the needle. Here’s the issue, even if the refs made the correct call, RU would have gotten the ball back with time on the clock. I don’t see how the committee can simply call that a win.
Are you just stubborn. They issued an apology not because a missed call on the baseline. They issued the apology and statement because it was a clear violation when someone steps outside the court on their own and jumps back in and touches the ball first , and Rutgers would have been awarded the ball up 2 with less than 1 second or with 1 second left . You cannot see but everyone else in the world would declare that a Rutgers win. There is a reason Jay Bilas on GAMEDAY mentioned that for a month and why the BIG 10 network for a month when we we’re in 2nd place saying that game was the difference from us being closer to Purdue. It was hammered home for 2 months. Then when the refs blew the call at the end of Duke / Virginia costing Duke the win , the first thing Bilas said was remember the Rutgers/ Ohio State game.
Things happen and consequences result when something is done wrong. This is an acknowledgement that they have the ability and will likely correct it if it comes down to it.
 
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Mikemarc

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The statement just came out today , head in the sand. Plus a majority 67/81 have us in today as either a 10 or 11 seed and some even 9. So your point is really not anything of consequence

Of course it’s not anything of consequence. Do you think the committee is taking into account anyone’s opinions on a message board?

I was called clueless cause I don’t think what Brietman reported (and keep in mind there was no official “statement” as you claim) will have an impact. Professional bracketologist Brad Wachtel also doesn’t think this news will have any impact. Which is why I ask is he clueless too?
 

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This board last season: it’s not about the metrics. It’s about the eye test

This board this season: it’s more about the metrics than the eye test.

I think the eye test is what’s going to doom RU. And this news does very little in terms of that. We still struggled pretty badly against a bit so good OSU team
And Iowa lost twice to a "not so good" Nebraska team.
Some matchups just don't work out well.
That is why the entire body of work counts.

We have played poorly of late.
But we are 4-3 vs. the top 4 in the Big Ten including wins AT Purdue, AT Northwestern and AT MSG.
We have some big positives as well as some big negatives.
 

Mikemarc

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And Iowa lost twice to a "not so good" Nebraska team.
Some matchups just don't work out well.
That is why the entire body of work counts.

We have played poorly of late.
But we are 4-3 vs. the top 4 in the Big Ten including wins AT Purdue, AT Northwestern and AT MSG.
We have some big positives as well as some big negatives.

Couldn’t agree more. Big positives and big negatives.
 
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Of course it’s not anything of consequence. Do you think the committee is taking into account anyone’s opinions on a message board?

I was called clueless cause I don’t think what Brietman reported (and keep in mind there was no official “statement” as you claim) will have an impact. Professional bracketologist Brad Wachtel also doesn’t think this news will have any impact. Which is why I ask is he clueless too?
Yes he is. This news can only be viewed as positive and if Brad thinks it is neutral news he is clearly wrong and trying to justify his all negative tweets about Rutgers since the Minnesota game. BAC does bracketology and I am sure it impacts his evaluation. Otherwise , why would a statement be leaked ahead of time if it had no consequence. They are getting ahead of the questions that will come if we lose to Michigan and make the tourney , they will say we already had them in and we slid them to Dayton plus we gave them the benefit of the doubt with the Ohio State game and Quad implications. Bracketology guys focus intently on Quad 1 , 2 records and this statement clearly changes that. I am already tweeting at Brad that he is wrong. Which wouldn’t be the first or second time I have told him that he was.
 

Mikemarc

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Yes he is. This news can only be viewed as positive and if Brad thinks it is neutral news he is clearly wrong and trying to justify his all negative tweets about Rutgers since the Minnesota game. BAC does bracketology and I am sure it impacts his evaluation. Otherwise , why would a statement be leaked ahead of time if it had no consequence. They are getting ahead of the questions that will come if we lose to Michigan and make the tourney , they will say we already had them in and we slid them to Dayton plus we gave them the benefit of the doubt with the Ohio State game and Quad implications. Bracketology guys focus intently on Quad 1 , 2 records and this statement clearly changes that. I am already tweeting at Brad that he is wrong. Which wouldn’t be the first or second time I have told him that he was.

Nothing was leaked. No statement was put out. And frankly I don’t think this is quite newsworthy.

I’ve been saying since that game that the committee knows what happened. Why wouldn’t they take what happened into account? It’s there job to take everything into account….this isn’t quite breaking news.

Agree to disagree on this.
 

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Yes he is. This news can only be viewed as positive and if Brad thinks it is neutral news he is clearly wrong and trying to justify his all negative tweets about Rutgers since the Minnesota game. BAC does bracketology and I am sure it impacts his evaluation. Otherwise , why would a statement be leaked ahead of time if it had no consequence. They are getting ahead of the questions that will come if we lose to Michigan and make the tourney , they will say we already had them in and we slid them to Dayton plus we gave them the benefit of the doubt with the Ohio State game and Quad implications. Bracketology guys focus intently on Quad 1 , 2 records and this statement clearly changes that. I am already tweeting at Brad that he is wrong. Which wouldn’t be the first or second time I have told him that he was.
I love Brad, but he's downplaying it for this exact reason. He's been all over RU the last week with our recent struggles. He doesn't want to shy away from his statements now even with this news.

What would be the point of the committee making this statement unless they are actually taking it into consideration? They easily could have just said "we consider it a lost no matter what". They didn't.
 

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Nothing was leaked. No statement was put out. And frankly I don’t think this is quite newsworthy.

I’ve been saying since that game that the committee knows what happened. Why wouldn’t they take what happened into account? It’s there job to take everything into account….this isn’t quite breaking news.

Agree to disagree on this.

Please stop talking

The committee doesnt get capsule results

They get a team sheet

That they will be given a footnote on what happened in a loss is a BIG deal
 

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Nothing was leaked. No statement was put out. And frankly I don’t think this is quite newsworthy.

I’ve been saying since that game that the committee knows what happened. Why wouldn’t they take what happened into account? It’s there job to take everything into account….this isn’t quite breaking news.

Agree to disagree on this.
Yes . it was leaked . And they aren’t going to have an official statement on something they wanted leaked
 
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Mikemarc

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I love Brad, but he's downplaying it for this exact reason. He's been all over RU the last week with our recent struggles. He doesn't want to shy away from his statements now even with this news.

What would be the point of the committee making this statement unless they are actually taking it into consideration? They easily could have just said "we consider it a lost no matter what". They didn't.

THEY. DID. NOT. MAKE. A. STATEMENT
 

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Nothing was leaked. No statement was put out. And frankly I don’t think this is quite newsworthy.

I’ve been saying since that game that the committee knows what happened. Why wouldn’t they take what happened into account? It’s there job to take everything into account….this isn’t quite breaking news.

Agree to disagree on this.
Except that we’re your thoughts and thinking that would be fair and what a committee member doing their diligence should have been aware of but just maybe they forgot because it happened in December and are just looking at records and Quad wins on the team sheets and not scrutinizing every game.
This information from Aaron confirms that the Committee is well aware of the RU/ Ohio state outcome and also how it changes records , Quad 1 wins , etc. Huge news.
 

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Barring a really bad loss to Michigan, a lot Bid stealers or upsets, we should get into Dayton at a minimum. And yes, we deserve to be in the tournament. While the Minnesota loss was a collapse, the loss to them or Nebraska doesn’t look as bad. Wisconsin squeaked by at Minnesota. And Nebraska’s win at Iowa was huge.
Being selected for the tournament means better than other teams being considered, so yes, even now we are better than Pitt, Mississippi St, etc. & we swept Penn St & beat Wisconsin on the Road…
& if we get to Dayton, we will win, we will be looser & winning will get confidence back..
 

Mikemarc

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Except that we’re your thoughts and thinking that would be fair and what a committee member doing their diligence should have been aware of but just maybe they forgot because it happened in December and are just looking at records and Quad wins on the team sheets and not scrutinizing every game.
This information from Aaron confirms that the Committee is well aware of the RU/ Ohio state outcome and also how it changes records , Quad 1 wins , etc. Huge news.

They should be well aware. I hope committee members didn’t “forget” about this game. I doubt they did.

The fact there really hasn’t been a peep about this from other local guys….it’s not very huge. Again…I think this was pretty accepted that they’d take what happened at the end of the OSU game into account cause that’s there job
 

Mikemarc

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What do you think was the implication of negating their buzzer-beater?

What do you mean negate it? It was not negated. The big ten admitted they blew a call. That’s it. They blow a lot of calls each game which impact the game.

They made a statement about this one cause it was in the news and happened at the end of the game. That’s it