As a staunch proponent of protecting life as the sacred entity it is and a strong believer in the compassionate teachings of Christ, I think the answer is no. If you’re poor you should be focusing on either cutting your expenses or working harder to make more money. Medical care is a privilege, not a right. If you want to be entitled to medical care then you should probably move to some ******** country that gives it out for “free”
Should poor people be allowed to go to the doctor?
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There are millions and millions of people with free healthcare right now that do nothing. Literally nothing to deserve it. Meanwhile, working class people are stuck paying damn near full price for their healthcare bc of Obamacare. What are you even talking about.
The generosity that the government imposes on the tax payers in this country is second to none. There’s an endless supply of free lunches thanks to liberals here in America.
That’s what I’m talking about. If you don’t contribute to society then you shouldn’t get any medical care at all
Yea I don’t think I said that. Also why don’t you specify what you mean by healthcare. Are you talking about needing medicine for an illness or having sex change surgery? I know in your world they’re both “healthcare” but in the real world they’re not the same.
I understand that homeless people are overrunning hospitals demanding sex changes and the hospitals begrudgingly have to do it.
Whatever healthcare is defined to be, I don’t think poor people should have access to it
Hell yah brother we live in a constitutional REPUBLIC not a democracy. SCREW THOSE IDIOT POOR PEOPLE!
He's a freaking I D 10 T. You lose brain cells just by responding to him.
Anyone can say what they want, and I think you are being sarcastic, but I don't believe anyone without some "skin in the game" should be allowed to vote.
Don’t you know everything is free? Damn evil republicans are hogging all the free healthcare.
Funny now liberals have decided every single person on planet earth deserves free “healthcare” in perpetuity forever and for anything.
Who makes the decisions who is a contributor? You and what do you contribute to be entitled to healthcare?
Do you believe you can make minimum wage and afford quality healthcare? If so, please share your math. The fact of the matter is you can make the right decisions - including a full time job - and not be able to afford healthcare without incurring debt you’ll never be able to pay off.
No I don’t believe that’s possible for the most part. I would say that the way the current system is designed it’s very difficult for even lower middle class people to afford healthcare and that’s really the problem.
I’m not saying I think people don’t deserve healthcare, I don’t believe that at all. What I believe is that if millions of people can get full healthcare for free then so should I. And vice versa, if I can’t get it then neither should they. It’s either a human right, free and available to all; or it’s a service that is expected to be paid for. It can’t be both. And it certainly can’t be one for one group and one for the other. You can’t have two sets of rules for people. I admittedly don’t know the answer to the healthcare dilemma but I know for sure that nothing is free and are in dire financial straits as a nation right now. The answer cannot be tax the middle class more, absolutely not. Which is an entirely different issue as to who would pay for it. Doctors and nurses aren’t working for free, diagnostics and drug companies aren’t working for free, corporations and wealthy people are avoiding taxes so who’s that leave?
Then WHY don't we make it universal for everyone? Oh thats right, then corporations wouldn't make money off all our suffering, so it will never happen. Thanks capitalism.
Then move to Russia or North Korea or China and quit whining.
The first amendment protects my speech from the government infringing on it. In other words, if you don't like what I have to say, you can complain and whine, but it wont stop me from sharing my views.
All I know is the insurance system is fvcked. I negotiate every bill i get.
I went to a dermatologist last month and was in the office for less than 15 minutes. Had a small skin tag removed and they tried to charge me $1100. There was NO explanation before the visit. No information on how much it would cost before hand. Just a bill for $1100 for seeing the doctor for probably 10 minutes.
That bill will sit on my desk until collection calls and offers to cut it in half. Two can play the game.
I went to a dermatologist last month and was in the office for less than 15 minutes. Had a small skin tag removed and they tried to charge me $1100. There was NO explanation before the visit. No information on how much it would cost before hand. Just a bill for $1100 for seeing the doctor for probably 10 minutes.
That bill will sit on my desk until collection calls and offers to cut it in half. Two can play the game.
Lol dude makes the case for universal healthcare and yet is too blind to see it.
Boy isn’t this the truth. Just a quick story. I’m fortunate to be relatively healthy. I think in the past 3 years I’ve been to the doctor 4 times. At least 2 if not 3 of those visits were for annual physicals. I have a good job and insurance as well. In 2024 I had my physical done and got a bill for almost $400. All they did was my labs, I’m not on any medication. I went back and asked them how a lipid panel and hepatic function test cost $400. They told me it didn’t cost that much but that’s the way it has to be billed for insurance to be filed. I told them, don’t file it, that’s crazy, it’s 6 times the cost it should be. They told me it was “illegal” for them to offer me cash pay prices because I have insurance. The cash pay price for that physical was $70, I had to pay $400. It’s insanity and that is Obamacare 200%. That’s what that psycho did to healthcare. Prior to Obamacare I had a $20 copay and never saw another bill. Now I pay full price for everything until I hit a $3000 deductible. It’s ********. Liberals ruin everything.
Who. Is. Paying??????????????????????? There’s no way you’re that clueless.
You’re precious lol. I think you said you own a business. That business clearly doesn’t require the ability to comprehend reading.
I will join the @johnhugh bandwagon against poor people
Create a special strike team of NAZI style folks to pick them up and deport them to third world countries giving them a 9 MM handgun and 100 rounds of ammo with water to last 48 hours
Let them either survive and make something of themselves or perish
It's God's Will
Why not send all of them to California and let them work the drug fields. That’s what libs do. It’s genius. You remove them from the drug field in Central America and put the drug fields in California, then import them to work it.
Other than physically and mentally handicapped people, children and the elderly, you are actually pretty close here. If you are an able-bodied working age adult, you should not rely on the government for healthcare. And there is zero excuse for an able-bodied, working age adult not contributing to society through either work, full-time childcare, etc.
Not if you’re a pampered, privileged nepo baby that’s never earned anything on your own merit like Johnny. He’s assuming his healthcare was free when mommy and daddy were subsidizing him. Clueless is a hell of a way to go through life. Imagine having spent money on that guys masters degree. Worst investment ever.
That’s what I’m talking about. That was actually our sermon at church last week, do not help the poor as they should help themselves.
This sounds reasonable until you realize this is not what's happening, so why do we keep parroting this line like it's some kind of universal truth? The data shows that the vast majority of those identified as able-bodied, non-working adults are care-givers, students or the working poor, not fat cheeto-eating slobs laying around in bean bags all day. It's a fake talking point made to fire up the rubes but it's just not true - plus you can't eat healthcare, you're just eligible for it.
That’s cool. Then the 80 hour a month requirement should be no issue and this is a big nothingburger.
I don’t understand their unrelenting desire to give everyone everything. How do they not understand that none of this is free? Someone, somewhere is paying for this somehow. I’ve said it before. Doctors, nurses, diagnostics companies and pharma companies, hospitals and all this healthcare administration people are not working for free.
You seem disturbed.
If I had a great job growing cocaine in Columbia why would I trade that in to grow weed in CA?