So the shooting was a drug deal gone bad?

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GloryDawg

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We have a murder following an drug deal on campus. This is embarrassing. It's more embarrasing and more damage to the reputation of Miss State then the KKK march was for Ole Miss. Someone from the MSU PD or from the office of the Dean of Student should be called onto the carpet. </p>
 

GloryDawg

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We have a murder following an drug deal on campus. This is embarrassing. It's more embarrasing and more damage to the reputation of Miss State then the KKK march was for Ole Miss. Someone from the MSU PD or from the office of the Dean of Student should be called onto the carpet. </p>
 

GloryDawg

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I just wonder howmuch effect this will have on enrollment next year?</p>
 

Xenomorph

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..or you could just shut up and not embarrass yourself more. Your choice.
 

coach66

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most part. Dorms, condos, apartments and there is noGeneva Convention on where they should be sold and to who. It will be interesting to see all the facts come<div>out on this case and I think it will be pretty strange as to what went down.</div>
 

weblow

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the people buying drugs illegally know. When a person wishes to purchase illegal drugs, they should make sure and do this off campus instead of buying illegal drugs on campus? Gotcha, I will attempt to do my part to let the drug dealers and users know.

You sound like a dipshit. State have a great record of running a very safe campus and school. This is certainly a sad incident and certainly something that I am certain they wish did not take place on campus. While running a safe campus is great, State doesn't operate in a bubble. We have many of the same problems every single campus has.

This is unfortunate and sad, but you sound like a moron calling out the campus police.
 

coach66

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in the room. Combine those attributes with the fact that both parties were probably high as hell at the time themselves and things can get out of hand in a hurry and<div>some really bad decisions can be made over some very short time frames.</div>
 

Purebred Dawg

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A drug related murdermore embarrassingthan the Klanon OM campus?Child please. And why should University PD or the Dean be called out for this isolated incident? I thought all agencies handled their business quite well from Keenum to the U.S. Marshalls.
 

EmoryBellard

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And every other similarly-sized institution in America. Not saying this is ok, but if you think otherwise, you need to face reality.
 

coach66

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is happening in Europe right now to understand our approach is an utter failure.
 

bulldogbaja

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I am very proud of our law enforcement in this case- I think they did a fantastic job of hunting the people down.
 

fishwater99

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Legalize and tax it. Less people would use drugs if they were legal, just look at the statistics from the European countries that have decriminalized drugs, drug use has gone down. You also can get people in treatment for their problems and back to a contributing member of society , instead of jail, which is a huge cost to taxpayers.
The stigma of doing something illegal is part of the high for drug users, like a kid getting away with something...
 
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ambulance was dispatched within 2 mins of the 911 call and the victim was in the hospital within 20-something minutes of the 911 call.

In my book, we have a lot to be proud of in this situation. Of course, its not a situation we want to have ever had happened but the response to it is rather remarkable.
 

patdog

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More and more conservatives and religious leaders are realizing exactly what you just said. All we're doing is turning a lot of law-abiding perople into criminals and throwing huge amounts of money at a problem we can't solve. And that's even assuming it's a problem.</p>
 

idog

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Big D said:
We have a murder following an drug deal on campus. This is embarrassing. It's more embarrasing and more damage to the reputation of Miss State then the KKK march was for Ole Miss. Someone from the MSU PD or from the office of the Dean of Student should be called onto the carpet. </p>
Apparently ayoung man who is a petty/small time dealer wasn't paying forthe inventory he was getting from his dealer/distributor. So the dealer from memphis, or wherever,deleted him from his network. Not to say the guy wasn't dealing on campus, but from what i have heard it wasn't associated with a deal - it was an issue bt the small guy and the big guy.

This isn't the same as the KKK march. This is everywhere - even at MC or Baylor.State did a great job of locking down the campus from what I have heard so our readiness systemworked well/we learned from the VT incident.
 

thatsbaseball

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I have without creating a "reach" but I am concerned about some of the school`s rapid growth.I fear that we`ve become too lax in our admission standards to simply get bigger and bring in more income. If that`s the case there`ll be more and more "bad apples".
 

BearFriendAtWork

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the handful of Klansmen who "marched" at Ole Miss were doing so because they are OPPOSED to what Ole Miss and the vast majority of its fan base were doing, correct? No, you're not aware. You're Republican.
 

MaroonedNdaRock

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Only way for the University to curtail having a student on campus that would associate with criminals, is to up the enrollment requirements. I am of the belief, that in general, people who study hard and make good grades tend to be less inclined to have drug deals in their dorm room or anywhere else for that matter.
 

idog

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i can think of two guys i know who dealt that are white, made good grades in high school, grew up in middle class houses and we had no clue about it until about a decade later. one was a guy i hung out with quite a bit and i would've never guessed it.

you can't expect our admissions dept to be able to weed these people out(no pun intended). they're going to get through and some will succeed in legal and illegal facets along the way. it's a numbers game. we shouldn't take students who are felons or have committed or been associated with violent or drug related crimes/charges.
 

Hump4Hoops

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The KKK felt the need to march to oppose the changes because they felt ole miss was their beloved school to begin with.
 

MaroonedNdaRock

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The requirements would weed some of them out. But like you said, it is a numbers game. I agree with that'sbaseball. We are getting so big. This type stuff is more likely to happen with a larger and larger population. Up the admission requirements, reduce the student body back to 15k or less, and things like this are less likely. Not totally unlikely but less likely.
 

Frexzell

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The smartest person I have ever known was the biggest pothead in college. He's not now, but he sure was in college.
 

PBRME

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Intelligence has nothing to do with drug use. I have a friend that's a Mensa member. He saysthe group meetings he attendsinvolve a lot of pot and other drugs. </p>
 

Hump4Hoops

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Go find a random sampling of klansmen (Okay, so maybe not ALL ole miss fans know enough of them to perform this test, so lets just talk hypothetically..).

Ask them what university represents them and their "values" more than any other. I'd bet money that there would be a disproportionate number that claim ole miss.

I doubt we'll see the KKK protesting any other big time university for attempting to be more racially sensitive. ole miss may not claim the "old south" mentality anymore, but many who still claim the "old south" mentality also claim ole miss.
 
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