Tenn. State b-ball player signs $2 million deal ahead of enrollment

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As long as they earn it legally and on their own without help from the school itself. Then have at it.
 

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Now this ....
I fully understand. This type of endorsement has more to do with the person than the player or university. He is taking full advantage off his family name which IMO is good strategy. Making money outside of sports should have always been allowed.
 

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How long until these players have agents? are these players going to start telling us that Va Tech or someone else we recruit against is offering my boy a Porsche what's your offer. Is this what it has come to
 
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This is a slippery slope that will be a trainwreck for college sports. I hate it! Bad decision! Players go to the highest bidder. T. Boone Pickens and buy players for Oklahoma State and turn it into an Alabama. Is this what we really want for amateur athletics?
 

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The NCAA and their constituencies (Universities) didn't want any of their pie getting sliced up and doled out to the players. So in standard NCAA fashion, they enact legislation that makes pay for play an external matter.

Look, they weren't enforcing jack **** to begin with. Now this will enable them to ignore the cheating and rationalize doing so.

Change is inevitable. But sometimes it serves to destroy. I have a bad feeling this will do that to some.
 
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But now athletes who get more than $50,000 may lose ALL of their federal financial aid! It's a mixed bag. Tax accountants will have a field day getting a chunk of the NIL money to keep the athlete's family from losing more money than they make! Law of unintended consequences is running rampant!
 
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topofthestate said... (original post)




So what doesn’t a full athletic scholarship cover for the student athlete?



Must not cover everything since vast majority of scholarship athletes also qualify for additional federal assistance. The numbers tell us that.

Never a problem with me when posters discuss the pros and cons, which EVERY situation has.

Then there is the expenses of agents and consultants for NIL opportunities.

And 19-year-olds are NOT qualified to handle this without serious mistakes. Hell, 40-year-olds would stumble over this.


Payment for name, image and likeness. Then you deduct loss of federal grants because family no longer qualifies under income limitation. Then deduct what the agents and consultants charge. This is putting a TREMENDOUS burden on teenagers and their families who qualify for federal assistance because of their low income. The group most vulnerable to financial predators. It is a situation made for disaster! I'm worried about the athletes losing more than they gain financially. Sure, the $2 million kid will be fine. But that's a rarity. But every kid who puts his family over the $50,000 threshold, without seeing it, is endangering his family's financial situation. And there are predators rubbing their hands to get a big enough slice of the athlete's pie to get rich while, mark my words, athlete after athlete in 5 to 10 years will be telling the world how they got snookered into thinking NIL was a great deal without obstacles, traps or land mines, which are there aplenty.
 
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The more I investigate the scarier it gets.

Let’s let the numbers do the talking and understand that it's more Greek or Chinese than plain English to the layman.

It's called the Free Application for Federal Student Aid, which is simple enough so far. But wait!

Federal Supplemental Educational Opportunity Grant for undergraduates with “exceptional financial need” goes up to $4,000 a year.

IT DEPENDS are the words that bounce off my brain as I read about FSEOG.

It’s tied to taxed and untaxed family income.

It’s tied to family’s current assets.

It’s tied to Social Security and unemployment benefits received by the family.

It’s tied to the size of the athlete’s family.

It’s tied to the NUMBER OF SIBLINGS attending college during the current school year.

Families with $26,000 or less of income have no expected family contribution under the law. And it's Katy bar the door for those with more income than that. It's like being the target of a pinball machine. You hear a lot of noise and don't know what the hell it means.

Cost of attendance is offset by need-based aid and merit-based scholarship.

And the amount offered can be in the form of grants, subsidized loans (interest paid by government but you will be dunned later for the loan) or work-study programs.

It’s like leaping off a cliff in total darkness and not knowing if there’s water or rocks below. Or alligators or sharks.

Can you imagine a teen athlete or his parents figuring out how to wade through these waters without stepping in quicksand?

Hell, my head still is swimming after reading everything that goes in FSEOG grants and, at 88, I’ve managed to amass more money than I ever dreamed a coal miner’s son would have, a substantial portfolio so I’m not a financial dummy.

I can’t imagine a teen athlete and his family making less than $50,000 a year can maneuver this maze and know what the hell to do.

If you don’t believe me, try reading the possibilities for yourself and ask: Can a teen athlete and his lower-income family escape the landmines, the financial predators, the unexpected turns, the mind-boggling zigs and zags in the rules.

This is a perfect recipe for story after story of athletes and their families being disillusioned too late, preyed upon too early and overwhelmed by it all without rich, fancy lawyers to guide them.

Many will have no idea that they will be financially worse off after all the yeah, buts are factored into their situations.

Here’s the URL. Maybe your brain is better than my 140+ IQ as figuring out all the potholes and nuances and whereases.



 
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I'll be having nightmares dreaming about this cockamany shitpile of regulations! Can you imagine what this will do to athletes and their families when they find out it's a mirage, like an "oasis" in the desert that isn't there? I feel terrible for what is going to happen when the financial predators get their hands on them, drain the family for "consultation fees," the government demands taxes on the INL payoffs, the wealthy of the world buy a national title for a dime on the dollar. This may be the end of college sports as we know it. This will make the transfer portal look like a walk in the park. We're doomed, I tell you. DOOMED!
 
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