The City of NY has always been fairly Liberal in my lifetime. After last night's results...

MTTiger19

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So you are saying I should put him on ignore like dpic73?

I usually wait until the obtuseness or mendacity reaches a certain level. Or the poster posts so often that they suck the oxygen out of the room and ignore is the only way to find other peoples posts without going to page 3.

Poor old dpic lasted less than a week.

Ad Hominem and general jack@ssery are not reasons for me to ignore.

My defenses are not really meant for his consumption but for the board at large. I will not let ad hominem go unchallenged.

Anti-Semitism is a quick path to ignore.
Do whatever you want just don’t waste your time. He called me a red neck white boy repeatedly. Constantly making references to me like red neck and hillbilly and white boy. Very odd behavior for a tolerant liberal. Just a complete psycho honestly, disjointed ideas and weird logic that’s nonsensical. Thinks all whites owe blacks reparations but will scold you over making broad comments about any “oppressed” group like Muslims or trans. Just not worth the time. Unhinged.
 
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DCandtheUTBand

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Do whatever you want just don’t waste your time. He called me a red neck white boy repeatedly. Constantly making references to me like red neck and hillbilly and white boy. Very odd behavior for a tolerant liberal. Just a complete psycho honestly, disjointed ideas and weird logic that’s nonsensical. Thinks all whites owe blacks reparations but will scold you over making broad comments about any “oppressed” group like Muslims or trans. Just not worth the time. Unhinged.
I make for a difference in white trash, red neck and hillbilly. I am from Appalachia and wear the Hillbilly moniker with pride. I have neve been a redneck or white trash. True hillbillies are hard working, self reliant, generous, religious folk. They are a bit leery of strangers but once they befriend you its usually for life unless you do something stupid to piss them off, mess with their family or property.
 

tigres88

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Do whatever you want just don’t waste your time. He called me a red neck white boy repeatedly. Constantly making references to me like red neck and hillbilly and white boy. Very odd behavior for a tolerant liberal. Just a complete psycho honestly, disjointed ideas and weird logic that’s nonsensical. Thinks all whites owe blacks reparations but will scold you over making broad comments about any “oppressed” group like Muslims or trans. Just not worth the time. Unhinged.
Sounds like maybe I started your spiral into madness. Sorry big guy!
 
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LafayetteBear

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People have very short term memory if they don't remember that inflation was the #1 reason dems lost the election. Inflation topped out at 9% under the Biden admin. Covid may have influenced it, but they had 3 years after that to get it down and failed. In addition, they tried to pass Build Back Better which was massively inflationary, when inflation was at it's peak. It was a tone deaf maneuver that was only thwarted by Manchin and imo it was a large reason why they lost. People did not trust them to bring prices down.

Additionally, democrats should not be complaining about health care cost inflation. It's named Obamacare.
I know, right?! Health costs never went up prior to Obamacare.

You should just give up. You embarrass yourself with each post.
 

baltimorened

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I know, right?! Health costs never went up prior to Obamacare.

You should just give up. You embarrass yourself with each post.
yea, but healthcare costs were supposed to decrease under the ACA. So much so that each family was going to save $2500/year.

Don't misunderstand me. The ACA was a good attempt. But, IMO, was built on incorrect assumptions and the fact that it has failed was due, in part, to some outside circumstances. OK, but let's look forward. We can keep the good things like pre existing conditions, the up to age 26 thing etc, but lets go back to the drawing board and fix what's broken. And this time lets get some rational members of both parties together, not with the goal of defeating the opposition, but with the goal of developing a program for the benefit of the American people. Wouldn't that be a novel concept?
 

DCandtheUTBand

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yea, but healthcare costs were supposed to decrease under the ACA. So much so that each family was going to save $2500/year.

Don't misunderstand me. The ACA was a good attempt. But, IMO, was built on incorrect assumptions and the fact that it has failed was due, in part, to some outside circumstances.
I have to disagree. It was designed to fail and to usher in government run healthcare.
OK, but let's look forward. We can keep the good things like pre existing conditions, the up to age 26 thing etc, but lets go back to the drawing board and fix what's broken. And this time lets get some rational members of both parties together, not with the goal of defeating the opposition, but with the goal of developing a program for the benefit of the American people. Wouldn't that be a novel concept?
I got simple rules that should govern any laws. The patient and doctor determine the treatment. Not government bean counters or insurance. You collect a premium you pay the bill. Anything less is fraud. Build out the laws from there.
 
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baltimorened

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I have to disagree. It was designed to fail and to usher in government run healthcare.

I got simple rules that should govern any laws. The patient and doctor determine the treatment. Not government bean counters or insurance. You collect a premium you pay the bill. Anything less is fraud. Build out the laws from there.
you might be correct, but I don't know what was in the minds of all those who voted for it back in 2010. I do believe that government run healthcare especially "Medicare for all" would bankrupt the country. And, IMO, the fraud would dwarf all the combined fraud from SNAP, Medicaid and Medicare combined.
 

DCandtheUTBand

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you might be correct, but I don't know what was in the minds of all those who voted for it back in 2010. I do believe that government run healthcare especially "Medicare for all" would bankrupt the country. And, IMO, the fraud would dwarf all the combined fraud from SNAP, Medicaid and Medicare combined.
Most did not read the bill and Pelosi said you had to pass it before you could find out what was in it! That was brazenly in you face.
 
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baltimorened

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Most did not read the bill and Pelosi said you had to pass it before you could find out what was in it! That was brazenly in you face.
that's a big part of our budget problem in the federal government. They keep passing these omnibus bills and they're so big the rank and file have little idea what's in them. It's the leaders who stick what they want in the bill.
 

RichOne420

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so if they can't work, don't get benefits or whatever you want to call it from the government, how do they support themselves? rent food, medical care, schooling?
Who can't work? You honestly cannot be referring to elderly that come here. That would equate to less than 0.5% of illegals considering the journey to get here is too difficult for them to make. So clueless yet you have a strong opinion created by ********.
 

baltimorened

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Who can't work? You honestly cannot be referring to elderly that come here. That would equate to less than 0.5% of illegals considering the journey to get here is too difficult for them to make. So clueless yet you have a strong opinion created by ********.
great rant on something I never said. Who brought up the elderly? If I understand the law, if you enter the country illegally, you are not allowed. From Google ai:

it is illegal for individuals to work in the USA without proper authorization. However, undocumented workers who are employed may have certain rights, such as those to worker's compensation and union rights. Employers are legally prohibited from hiring or continuing to employ anyone who is not authorized to work in the U.S..

So my point if you're in the country illegally and it is illegal for you to work, how do you support yourself? Seems to be a legitimate question.
 

MTTiger19

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great rant on something I never said. Who brought up the elderly? If I understand the law, if you enter the country illegally, you are not allowed. From Google ai:

it is illegal for individuals to work in the USA without proper authorization. However, undocumented workers who are employed may have certain rights, such as those to worker's compensation and union rights. Employers are legally prohibited from hiring or continuing to employ anyone who is not authorized to work in the U.S..

So my point if you're in the country illegally and it is illegal for you to work, how do you support yourself? Seems to be a legitimate question.
It’s a perfectly legitimate question that the leftists cannot answer. Explain why 20 million people who can’t work, can’t vote, can’t get welfare, can’t get healthcare are willing to die to keep from being deported. It’s because they’re getting so much free stuff they’re willing to risk it all. This is obvious.
 

TigerGrowls

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I have to disagree. It was designed to fail and to usher in government run healthcare.

I got simple rules that should govern any laws. The patient and doctor determine the treatment. Not government bean counters or insurance. You collect a premium you pay the bill. Anything less is fraud. Build out the laws from there.
Agree. It was built to fail and usher in single payer healthcare.
 

RichOne420

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great rant on something I never said. Who brought up the elderly? If I understand the law, if you enter the country illegally, you are not allowed. From Google ai:

it is illegal for individuals to work in the USA without proper authorization. However, undocumented workers who are employed may have certain rights, such as those to worker's compensation and union rights. Employers are legally prohibited from hiring or continuing to employ anyone who is not authorized to work in the U.S..

So my point if you're in the country illegally and it is illegal for you to work, how do you support yourself? Seems to be a legitimate question.
It is a dumb hot take in an attempt to support the even dumber narrative the system pushes to create division. You simps really assume these immigrants are taking your $ while ignoring the corporations that are actually impacting your lIfe negatively.

I mentioned the elderly because everyone else that comes here is an able body that can work and they actually get jobs. It is why we do not have an issue with large portions of homeless immigrants. It is like you ignore so much of the obvious.
 

MTTiger19

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It is a dumb hot take in an attempt to support the even dumber narrative the system pushes to create division. You simps really assume these immigrants are taking your $ while ignoring the corporations that are actually impacting your lIfe negatively.

I mentioned the elderly because everyone else that comes here is an able body that can work and they actually get jobs. It is why we do not have an issue with large portions of homeless immigrants. It is like you ignore so much of the obvious.
Interestingly enough, without intending to you’re hitting the main point of contention between leftists and nationalists. This is all about money. Leftists feel like the billionaires and corporations are getting a free ride, while nationalists think the millions of illegals are. I’ve said this repeatedly, this is a war between the middle class over resources that our government is facilitating. Because we’re both probably right in our accusations. If we were smart we’d demand the Fed be destroyed and no more money can be printed. IMO politicians are printing money. Leftists are giving it to illegals, neocons are giving it to corporations, the middle class gets hosed. Keep the middle at each others throats, divide them by identity to make it obvious, blame problems on super rich and poor. In division they remain powerful.
 

baltimorened

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It is a dumb hot take in an attempt to support the even dumber narrative the system pushes to create division. You simps really assume these immigrants are taking your $ while ignoring the corporations that are actually impacting your lIfe negatively.

I mentioned the elderly because everyone else that comes here is an able body that can work and they actually get jobs. It is why we do not have an issue with large portions of homeless immigrants. It is like you ignore so much of the obvious.
I thought I had a legitimate question. If you're here illegally and can not legally work, how do you support yourself? It's illegal for these folks to work in the US. So, as you profess, they're working, then they are violating US laws. I didn't mention homelsessness or lack thereof.

It's really just a basic question. I can't understand why you;re so upset. Not trying to divide anyone. I'm retired, so not concern on my part about anyone taking my job, I don't have one', don't want one. I have a great retirement financial plan and the fact that someone is in the country working illegally doesn't impact me at all. It's just that I've heard that "no one is above" the law for so long, I've grown to believe it. So if people aren't allowed to work - by law - they shouldn't be working, And if they're not working, I come back to the original question. how do they support themselves.