Perhaps Snoke is nothing more than an Oz type character? That someone is actually behind the curtain
The Force Awakens
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Perhaps Snoke is nothing more than an Oz type character? That someone is actually behind the curtain
I'm not a Star Wars expert or fanatic, but watched it yesterday with my son and loved it! Man, the acting by Driver was fantastic.
Watch Revenge of the sith and listen to the theme playing during that light bubble opera where Palpatine is telling Anakin about Plagueis........ its very very similar if not identical to the theme played in The Force Awakens during the Snoke scenes.
I think the melodies are quite a bit different. If you have the soundtracks, it's Palpatine's Teachings on the Episode III soundtrack and Snoke on the Episode VII soundtrack.
On a related note, what does everyone think of the score? I really like Rey's theme, although for some reason it reminds me more of his Harry Potter work.
Would love this. I thought, but could be wrong, I read he was a general left over from the empire.
Some places are saying that Star Wars the Force Awakens made around 247 Million. Thats bonkers insane. By the way speaking of bonkers, I'm leaving in just a few minutes to see the movie yet again.
two thoughts after around 2:
-Rey and Leia hadn't met until that final scene, right? Why the long gaze and then very emotional hug without introductions? Did they recognize each other?
-Any chance Rey is Luke's clone or nah? Obv it's a male-to-female thing, but what if there IS no Luke love interest/Rey's mother?
-Or could Rey be Anakin v2.0?
-Rey and Leia hadn't met until that final scene, right? Why the long gaze and then very emotional hug without introductions? Did they recognize each other?
-Any chance Rey is Luke's clone or nah? Obv it's a male-to-female thing, but what if there IS no Luke love interest/Rey's mother?
-Or could Rey be Anakin v2.0?
That is the number for North America. I think worldwide is over 500 million and it hasn't been released in China yet.
Can't be Luke. He went into exile just like Yoda and Obi-Wan.
Cheating death is how Palpetine won over Anakin, and this would absolutely make everything come full circle which would be sick!
Cheating death is how Palpetine won over Anakin, and this would absolutely make everything come full circle which would be sick!
Not entirely sure, but I always seem to have to go through Atlanta.
Domestic actuals are in and it came in higher than estimates. It's now high enough to give it the world wide opening weekend record as well. $247,966,675 Domestic Total
Well After touching the lightsaber the first time, at the end of the force visions, Obi Wan said "Rey, these are your first steps" Also don't forget one of the first things Obi Wan taught Luke was to close his eyes and reach out with his feelings...... kind of like Rey does at the end before kicking butt. I am almost completely convinced we'll find out for sure Obi Wan was continuing to communicate with her .... but us the audience wasn't allowed to hear it so it could be revealed later.
IIRC didn't Rey have a doll or something in her home(when she was making dinner) that looked a lot like a Rebel pilot in the orange flight suit.
Dang. Must have missed that. Will have to catch that the second time around.
Good catch though.
Then you pretty much suck at life.
and you were the one who said "The Lone Ranger" was one of the best movies ever i believe. so yeah.
Team LEK - it's pretty much the same as ANH,
And it was awesome. It actually pisses me off more now, that Lucas screwed the prequels up so badly.
I was thinking Leia might be Snoke. She's leading the alliance, Han Solo was back to smuggling minding his own business. Why would Ren need to dispatch him and not her?
Why would Han Solo be able to lure him away from the dark side but his own mother couldn't?
I know we saw Vader burn at the end of 6, but Snoke had the gashes just like Vader did and he is the one that was lured with the idea of cheating death.
Which maybe could explain why if The Emperor and Vader were both dead wouldn't the dark side have become non existent with no one to lead it? Also why would Luke need to go in hiding other than Vader could feel his presence? I know the explanation of failing to train Ren as a Jedi, but that gets back to my original theory of no more dark side.
Which maybe could explain why if The Emperor and Vader were both dead wouldn't the dark side have become non existent with no one to lead it? Also why would Luke need to go in hiding other than Vader could feel his presence? I know the explanation of failing to train Ren as a Jedi, but that gets back to my original theory of no more dark side.
Then why would Ren talk to the Vader mask, but not act the same way when in the presence of Snoke? Interesting, but I don't think so.
According to the lore I have read, the dark side always exists, just like the force. The jedi thought it was extinct in the prequals, where palpatine and plagueus had been plotting. The sith hadnt been seen for 1000's of years. Just like this one, there was an awakening. The Dark Side exists, and people train in it, Palpatine and Vader just happened to be super strong in the force. According to lore, Palpatine is known for being the best lightsaber duelitst, having only lost to Mace Windu, even Yoda couldnt beat him. The fact he killed 2 jedi instantly, shows his power.
The Emperor was constantly training others ( we see Dooku, Darth Maul, Greivous, along with Anakin) plus others in the galaxy who are prone to use. Its just different levels.
Snopes just happens to be the strongest in the galaxy, that we know of at this time.
I think they said that Luke went into hiding because of what happened when he tried to train the new series of Jedi, something about some of them turning to the Dark Side (maybe something with Kylo Ren?)
Also, Kylo Ren is part of the dark side, so not saying it invalidates your theory, but sort of. The reason he has to kill his father, is to gain the power, just like Anakin had to murder all the Jedi. A sith gains power from horrendous acts.
This is exactly how i felt in leaving it, but I wonder really if the prequels aren't unfairly maligned. I haven't seen them in years admittedly, but the one thing they did do which I thought was much better than the new new hope was character development. The prequels story arch overall isn't as good, so it suffers from that but atleast I knew who everyone was and was given reasons to care.
I thought they were awful at character development and pretty much everything for that matter
so this column is pretty reasonable: "Who are Rey's parents?"
A brother vs sister central conflict would be a great theme for the new trilogy. Kylo Ren is turned by the dark side, Snoke commands Ren either to turn his younger sister to the Dark Side or kill her (similar to what Palpatine told Vader re: Luke), and Ren has a moment of weakness when he's at the point of needing to kill Rey (his killing of Han shows that he's become much stronger with the Dark Side than he was when he was younger). He decides to maroon her on Jakku in hopes that she'll never find her way off the planet and hides this fact from his master (which would explain why Ren doesn't mention who the girl is during his exchange with Snoke in VII)
According to lore, Palpatine is known for being the best lightsaber duelitst, having only lost to Mace Windu, even Yoda couldnt beat him. The fact he killed 2 jedi instantly, shows his power.
I always thought Palpatine only "lost" to Mace Windu to draw Anakin in. I could very well be wrong.
But even as I was watching it the first time I was thinking Palpatine is playing with Windu to show Anakin that the Jedi were the evil ones and could have killed him at anytime.
I always thought Palpatine only "lost" to Mace Windu to draw Anakin in. I could very well be wrong.
But even as I was watching it the first time I was thinking Palpatine is playing with Windu to show Anakin that the Jedi were the evil ones and could have killed him at anytime.
The Character development in the original trilogy was excellent. Solo went from self centered Scoundrel to hero, Leia went from a loud mouth spoiled princess into a true leader and Luke was also a self doubting whiney kid to a confident and strong Jedi.
There wasn't any character development in the prequels at all. Ok , other than Anakin being a good hearted little kid to an awful egotistical complainer.... Obi Wan was the same through out, Padme was the same, Sheev was the same throughout and Anakin was the same from 2 to 3... the only difference was he went from slaughtering nomads to Jedi when he was angry.
There wasn't any character development in the prequels at all. Ok , other than Anakin being a good hearted little kid to an awful egotistical complainer.... Obi Wan was the same through out, Padme was the same, Sheev was the same throughout and Anakin was the same from 2 to 3... the only difference was he went from slaughtering nomads to Jedi when he was angry.
Mace Windu won that battle with Palpatine because Windu was a master in the anti sith arts. He trained in how to turn the dark side in against itself and thats how he won.
i *think* the helmet she's shown wearing is one with yellow Rebel logos instead of red logos, though
Only seen it once. Next person in the theater, snap a photo of the helmet.