The Force Awakens
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Read an article today where a business valuation professor valued the Star Wars franchise at 10 billion now.
I believe it already has. Disney paid $4 billion for the rights to Lucasfilm in 2012. I'd say they've made more than $4 billion since then when you combine DVD/Blu Ray sales of the previous SW films and pre-orders for the new film on Blu Ray and DVD, with the current $1.5 billion worldwide take for SW: TFA (minus the $200 million dollar budget of course), then you add in toy sales, clothing, costumes, the cartoons, novelty items (coffee mugs, posters, buttons, model kits, coloring books, pinatas, pens, etc., etc., etc.) for the last three years, I'd say that it's paid for itself already. Add into that the fact that TFA is still probably going to earn at least another $1 billion worldwide before it's out of the theaters, I'd say that Disney made a pretty good investment.
You think James Cameron is gonna take that ********?
Son, he's been deeper than any man alive. Avatar 2 comes out at the end of this year and this son of ***** is on a hell path of fury.
avatar 2 is going to have to have an actually interesting plot this time because we've seen 3D many times before... Its not going to be a gimmick to get non stop viewings like the first one did in 2009. Try watching avatar at home ...even on a 3D tv ...the plot is basically primitives with the help of 4 traitors to human kind beating those who are massively superior in technology. Even Independence day was more believable.
Avatar was a super lame plot, to be sure. Was basically Dances With Wolves/The Last Samurai/90 other movies in 3D. Curious to see how the special effects are going to be for the sequel though, guys been working on the damn thing for 8 years.
well avatar 2 will probably be cavemen dodging bullets matrix style and avatar 3 will be underwater and the tagline of "you probably should just watch shark week"
I'm pretty sure 20th Century Fox has the distribution rights to A New Hope for forever and the other five films until 2020.
All I want is the unaltered Theatrical Cuts for the original trilogy on BlueRay. Make it so.
Avatar was a-ight, but I'm not sure what the big deal about it was.
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THIS!!! As much as I love Cameron's films usually (T1, T2, and Aliens are three of my favorite films ever), I wasn't on the 'Avatar' bandwagon, mostly because of its weak, predictable plot and the fact that I didn't really give a damn about 3D tech (and still don't). It waters down the movie going experience in my opinion and is just a gimmick like it was back in the 80's. The reason Avatar made so much money was its innovative use of the technology which had moviegoers going to see it 3 and sometimes even 4 times, but has since become a faded fad. Now, however, it'll have to succeed on its story, which I'm guessing won't be enough to merit multiple viewings and push its box office gross into the area it needs to go to to compete with the top 10, definitely not the top 5.
That being said, Cameron has made exactly two films in the last 20 years and they have grossed more than $5 billion combined worldwide, so he is going to pretty much have a blank check to do whatever he wants to with Avatar 2 & 3 so we'll just have to see where he takes it.
There were people who saw Avatar over 25 times because they were addicted to the 3d world he created and some even attempted suicide when the movie went out of theaters due to depression of it ending.
I dont get it, there are places on this planet that are equally alien looking and beautiful, we dont need to watch a Sci Fi movie for that.
I dont get it, there are places on this planet that are equally alien looking and beautiful, we dont need to watch a Sci Fi movie for that.
I can see that in the future...just don't know if I'll live long enough to see it...and I'm talking about the visual being "real" looking not some computer graphic.
You've left a lot of expenses/costs out, the biggest being the theaters cut.
The only time I see movies in 3D is if the IMAX is 3D.
IMAX is only worth it if the theaters have a true imax theater. A lot of theaters around me advertise imax but it's just a slightly bigger screen in a normal sized theater. Nope.
Nope, the theaters cut was $0 in the first two weeks of the films run. I know someone who has managed several theaters. The first two weeks of a films run, the studios typically keep ALL the money from ticket sales, especially on huge films like this. After the first two weeks, then theaters begin earning money in incrementally larger numbers first 15%, then 25%, etc., etc., etc. That is why concession sells are so important for theaters (and also so expensive), especially the first two weeks a films run. It's part of the contract that the theaters enter in with the film studios for the rights to show the movies.
Also, expenses like advertising and such are typically figured into a films budget. TFA's budget was $200 million which is about right for a film of this size with the marketing plan it employed. Regardless, even if it weren't. you're talking maybe another $10-$20 million in advertising costs which are a drop in the bucket when you're talking about a franchise like SW.
As for the 20th Century Fox deal, I did forget about that actually. George Lucas signed away perpetual rights to 'Episode IV: A New Hope' just to get it made which is a shame since that means the likelihood that Disney can release an unaltered original trilogy Blu Ray/DVD set could be next to impossible. They could, however, work out a deal one day to return the rights to Episode IV back to Lucasfilm (Disney), but it would likely take a lot of money and probably the transfer of some intellectual property to get it. As for the other 5 films, it is correct that they default back to Lucasfilm in 2020. (This and the rights to the Indiana Jones movies from Paramount is whats keeping The 80's 'Muppet Babies' cartoon series from getting released to DVD.)
Regardless, Disney is going to earn their $4 billion back on the deal and that's the bottom line.
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When I worked for a theater the average margin for a ticket purchase was 2%. That's why concessions are so important. In recent years theaters have been experimenting with more ways to generate revenue including increased concession options (beer, ice cream, burgers etc.), premium reserved seating options, and repeat showings of older children's movies during summer mornings.
Depending on the deal with the film's distributor a theater may actually pay to show a movie if it's expected to be popular enough. While this is rare (if a distributor has 3 films they're pushing they may only give you a third copy of a popular film if you agree to take a copy of a film no one wants to see) it happens.
Depending on the deal with the film's distributor a theater may actually pay to show a movie if it's expected to be popular enough. While this is rare (if a distributor has 3 films they're pushing they may only give you a third copy of a popular film if you agree to take a copy of a film no one wants to see) it happens.
One deal which was amazing for Disney to get away with is that every theater that got star wars had to exclusively show it on Imax for 5 weeks.
I usually burn in the car.
I got kicked out of the opening scene of Pulp Fiction in the early 90s because the usher heard us huffing computer dust cleaner out the can.
Star Wars has made right around 1.87 Billion $ . Its only been a month. It came out Dec 17th and its only Jan. 17th..its just crazy... Titanic's first release back in 1997 took 8 months to make 1.84 Billion then later got to the 2.2 billion by adding a 3D release in 2012.
But it did fall behind 1st place for the first time and came in 3rd in the weekend box office. In its 5th weekend Star wars still made 25 million and will make around 31 million if you count tomorrow's MLK Jr. Day.
Also the box office comparison list is interesting.... in the 5th weekend Star wars has made 17 million less than Avatar did in its 5th weekend so its dropping off that trajectory but when you compare them, TFA has domestically 857 million and Avatar had 505 million as of the monday holliday . TFA is also expected to make it to about 885 million by next sunday.
It also looks like the DVD release will be in June instead of April so that gives the move more time to play in theaters which I'm just going to guess 3 months of chump change getting a few million a week will put it over a billion domestic when all is said and done.
But it did fall behind 1st place for the first time and came in 3rd in the weekend box office. In its 5th weekend Star wars still made 25 million and will make around 31 million if you count tomorrow's MLK Jr. Day.
Also the box office comparison list is interesting.... in the 5th weekend Star wars has made 17 million less than Avatar did in its 5th weekend so its dropping off that trajectory but when you compare them, TFA has domestically 857 million and Avatar had 505 million as of the monday holliday . TFA is also expected to make it to about 885 million by next sunday.
It also looks like the DVD release will be in June instead of April so that gives the move more time to play in theaters which I'm just going to guess 3 months of chump change getting a few million a week will put it over a billion domestic when all is said and done.
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Pardon the impending blast of posts coming from me, but I'm playing catch up on this thread. Not everybody who uses the force disappears when they die. Qui-Gon didn't, and all the Jedi who got killed in Episodes 2 and 3 didn't.
As far as the Luke/Vader duel in ESB, I always saw it as Vader pretty much toying with Luke. For the first half of it, he's blocking all of Luke's attacks with one hand like he's nothing. If he'd decided to, he could have dropped him at any time. Hell, in the middle of it he stops even using the lightsaber at all for a while, and just uses the force to throw pipes and boxes and junk at him. The difference between him and Ren is that, by that time, Vader is in his mid to upper 40s, was trained by the Jedi since he was 10, fought in the Clone Wars for years on the front lines, and has spent about 20 years hunting down and killing the remaining Jedi. Kylo is a hotheaded kid (essentially) who flips out and wrecks whatever room he's in whenever he gets pissed off. I thought they went to great lengths to establish that Kylo Ren isn't the finished product yet.
I can't find it right now, but JJ Abrams almost flat out said that Kylo Ren isn't a Sith in an interview a while back. The important thing to remember is that the Force is this omnipresent thing in the SW universe - the Jedi and Sith are just two organizations who have their own ways of using it. Maz Kanata is clearly force sensitive and knows how to use it, but she's not a Jedi or a Sith. Just because the Sith (as an organization) disappear, it doesn't mean the dark side did.
Agree. My point was defeating Vader, even if he's pulling his shot, infinitely more impressive than a crybaby untrained dark side guy. Not sure how one can think otherwise.