Al's nonstop excuse parade never stops. In '25, it will be something different. BTW, nothing in life is free. And Greg understands that.
I'll see your Mr. Krabs and raise you:
The Next Two Years are Free
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I'll see your Mr. Krabs and raise you:
Al's nonstop excuse parade never stops. In '25, it will be something different. BTW, nothing in life is free. And Greg understands that.
In ‘25 we will have enough talent to succeed and a more accommodating schedule.
Not one 4 star commit in the 2023 or 2024 classes. Recruiting is going backwards. This is now year 4 of Schiano- no more excuses. The next two years aren't free. If he doesn't get to 6 wins by December of 2024 then he should be fired.
There are 4 star possibilities in play.
I care more about players who can actually play than I do about stars. Ray Rice was a three star. Devin McCourty was a two star.
Recruiting is moving forward and we are adding quality players who can succeed at this level.
It took him 5 years and notice he only became successful after Miami, VT and BC left the conference. USC and UCLA are being added with no power teams leaving. I hope you are right but based on what we have seen, GS is not looking like he can get it done here. If we have good recruits coming in, only makes it more attractive for a quality coach to succeed.
I know you were trying to be uplifting but this is depressing.
Al, ^^THIS^^ is a rational, well-reasoned post that I can support. However, you damage your credibility with your nonstop nonsensical pronouncements where you are continually moving the goalposts. Lest you think that Greg is banking on losing the next 2 years because he thinks '25 will be a "good" year, I would bet that farm that the thought does not enter his mind. He wants to win now, and he understands the reality and cost of not winning. RU football needs to show signs of life THIS year. Cut down on the blowouts, particularly against teams like Minnesota and Maryland. Notch at least 3 B1G wins and 5 wins. AT LEAST.
Ok for every cherry picked 2-3 star player that became a stud I can give you a dozen 4 star Saquan Barkleys, Jonathan Taylors, Rashan Garys.
Moreover, our roster is full of 2-3 star players for the last 9 years and we've been destroyed in 7 of those years, so your argument doesn't hold water when you look at the results on the BiG field (not the Big East, AAC conference). We've won 30% of the games played since 2014.
And no, recruiting is not moving forward. We lost our best recruiter and it is moving backwards, by any metric.
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It's all the more absurd because this is what I heard the first time.I'll see your Mr. Krabs and raise you:
Is that a new addition to his thesis? I thought our recruiting sucked because we didn't have a fieldhouse?
I love Schiano, I think he's the right person for the program, and I believe we'll see significant improvement over the next couple years. But there's no way in hell he gets a pass for 2023 and 2024. We need to show an upward trend. 2-3-4 win seasons are unacceptable.
FIre him if we dont have a 6 win season in the next 2 years. No excuses.
true
he had 3 wins his first season
5 wins 2nd year
down to 4 wins his 3rd year
4th year must show more about competitiveness against every opponent
5th year bowl or gone
Your BS metrics don’t matter. What matters is that a good portion of the kids whom Schiano has recruited over the past three years are contributing. The defense has enough talent to be effective. The offensive line of the future is on the roster developing. We are not a four star attracting program, no matter who the coach is. This is a program
That might get a few four stars but will have to rely on mostly developing 2 and three stars, to be successful.
The offense still has a talent gap, which is being rapidly closed. As long as 50% of the kids work out, from the class, which is the expectation, we’ll be in good shape. Recruiting is moving forward because the kids we are recruiting can play.
Anyone who expected this job to be done within 5 years is a fool, especially given our history. That is why Schiano was given an 8 year contract.
Schiano is going to be here for a long time and you’re going to like it.
Miami was slipping by 2005 and lost to Louisville. BC was BC but VT was strong those years. We had the talent to beat all three teams in 2006, and likely would have done so, imo. The quality coach now is going to be given every opportunity to succeed.
There’s no doubt he wants to win and will make every effort to win. But the roster isn’t strong enough to win playing the ‘24 schedule, which is particularly brutal. The ‘25 schedule sets up for our success.
Here's al's favorite toys. He can spin them all day long!
USC and UCLA don’t change the reality that this program has no chance of success in the conference under Schiano unless you define success as being undefeated against Wagner every year suntil he’s fired in 2027. The only uncertainty is how Al will spin this ongoing fiasco positively.
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Whats free mean?
HC Schiano not taking a salary?
Is he giving back his salary for the first 3 years?
Season ticket holders being reimbursed?
No charge for the next two seasons?
Funny how "free" only applies to expectations for the coaching staff but nothing else.
HC Schiano not taking a salary?
Is he giving back his salary for the first 3 years?
Season ticket holders being reimbursed?
No charge for the next two seasons?
Funny how "free" only applies to expectations for the coaching staff but nothing else.
That’s just not true. The program is being built. Kids are developing behind the scenes. Just need a little more talent on the offensive side of the ball. Program not ready for the meat grinder 24 schedule, but should experience it’s share of success after.
Playing UCLA is preferable to playing Ohio State or Michigan because they are closer to our level. We should win our share against the non Tier 1 Big Ten teams.
Yeah Al, just a ‘little more talent’ on the offensive side of the ball. Did you see the Maryland game ? Did you notice offensive talent wants nothing to do with Schiano? No hs recruits, no portal players, nobody. We have a low FCS offense, which is why he’s been scheduling Wagner. In 2024 -2025 you will see Sacred Heart on the schedule.
This year and next are not just for Schiano, they are also to demonstrate Rutgers' a) financial commitment to the football program and b) support of their head coach for the next coaching search should it be necessary.
We got dealt a bad hand in the '24 schedule, but who knows, if the o-line improves enough we could all be surprised.
Then 6-6 it is as that would qualify to many as “playing with house money” (ie. free).
Anything less an it ain’t free.
The only reason the offense underperformed last year was because Vedral was lost for most of the year, and our green quarterbacks struggled. Now that they have acclimated to this level of play, they will perform much better this year. And they will have better support. OL should be improved, jacque Jackson looks like a baller and the incoming recruits like Braithwaite should bolster our WR Corp. then you add Bowman to Jonny and Konopka, and things are looking up for the offense.
What makes the '24 schedule any more "brutal" than any other year ? OOC games against Akron and VT. Conf crossover games against Iowa, Illinois and UCLA
So where most of the players on the teams that you said didn’t have enough talent to win now. Pointing out a few outliers doesn’t change anything.
If you believe those offer lists I have a bridge to sell you. Those are self reported and half the kids consider a recruiting letter as an offer. I seen kids claiming offers to schools like Georgia while commuting to a school like Temple.
I was not necessarily talking about self-reported lists. Those close to the program and recruiting analysts have more info on which offers are real/"committable."
Can we switch it back to al?
Because every time I see “AI” I think it’s a ChatGPT or Google Bard generated post. LOL
Which Big Ten program has done a hell of a lot better with a hell of a lot worse?
Stopped reading at "group of inexperienced coaches". In what way is our coaching staff "inexperienced"?
Starting a post by first redefining reality and calling a bunch of highly experienced coaches inexperienced is really not the way to convince anybody of anything. C'mon, man.
Stick to unbridledly enthusiasm and optimism. That's at least marginally defensible.
To answer your question: Illinois.
To expand on what my post: Illinois, Kansas, Baylor, Oregon State and others went through hard times to get back to at least bowling.
Btw, I answered this before to which you poopooed it because it’s “not the Big Ten.” So I guess Vandy, Kansas, and the others suck according to you.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...-rose-bowl-within-5-years.260251/post-6274306
To expand on what my post: Illinois, Kansas, Baylor, Oregon State and others went through hard times to get back to at least bowling.
Btw, I answered this before to which you poopooed it because it’s “not the Big Ten.” So I guess Vandy, Kansas, and the others suck according to you.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...-rose-bowl-within-5-years.260251/post-6274306
Who hired that “group of inexperienced coaches” in the first place?