The Next Two Years are Free

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Hope you weren’t expecting a group of inexperienced coaches to make our offense Big Ten competitive. Their role was to bust their butt recruiting talent, though they probably weren’t as successful recruiting, as we would have liked them to be. The North Jersey recruiting results in particular, have been disappointing, as of late. This came at a cost of players not developing as much as they should have. WRs and QBs in particular, did not show much development.

So now that we have a baseline of talent to one day be successful, we’ve hired the coaching expertise on the offensive side of the ball, to take kids talents to the next level.

One day isn’t today, and there is going to be a lag time between now and when the kids will be operating at maximum efficiency. A new system and new schemes have to be learned, new techniques are being taught, but kids will need a significant amount of repetitions to commit these to muscle memory. That’s why this season is a learning season.

Our record doesn’t matter the next two years, because we are still accumulating talent, and there probably isn’t enough talent to win, though we will do our best. I see our record in the range of 4-6 wins.

The defensive side of the ball has enough talent to be competitive , but the offensive side of the ball needs two more impact players, to be effective, namely WR1 and TE1. These two positions need to be manned by kids who are going to be playing in the NFL one day, and I don’t think we have that yet. Korey Duff could be one of these kids, should he choose to come to Rutgers.

The ‘24 recruiting class, which is shaping up to be a MONSTER class, is going to put us over the top. But they will need a year to develop and acclimate to this level of play.
Surace, who is the Princeton Coaches son, and plays a few miles away from my Moms House, is a baller and is going to lead us to the Rose Bowl, one day.

The ‘23 and ‘24 seasons are free. The ‘25 season is where the rubber meets the road, and we will be able to produce a good number of wins.

 

[RUGuitarMan1]

I don’t think any season is “free”. People are getting paid a great deal to produce results on the field. Some of the points you’ve made about roster development were made about last season. It’s year 4 in an era when it is easier to close talent gaps. It’s time for the football program to start showing legitimate progress on the field which means a bowl game, more conf wins and more competitive games.

 

[ClassOf02v.2]

Spot on. Time to extend Schiano, amirite?

 

[bryanjints]

Schiano needs to make a bowl game this year or next. If that doesn't happen he'll be fired by Dec 1 2024

 

[JerseyNoles]

I literally just threw up in my mouth reading this

Al I respect your dedication. I truly do. I admire your fandom and glass half full outlook on things

But this is an absolute trash statement; it's not even subjective anymore, it's complete and utter hog wash

 

[mdk02]

Surace, who is the Princeton Coaches son, and plays a few miles away from my Moms House, is a baller and is going to lead us to the Rose Bowl, one day.

Absolutely! There's an away game with UCLA.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

Infinite eye roll
Infinite face palm

 

[yessir321]

I swear you and Greg would make an adorable couple. There’s no doubt you are very much in love!

 

[Plum Street]

You constantly move the goal posts Al.

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

You constantly move the goal posts Al.

No goalposts are being moved. He got an 8 year contract because Everyone knew this was a big job. Right now, it looks like It’s going to take 6 years to get this job done.

 

[Plum Street]

No goalposts are being moved. He got an 8 year contract because Everyone knew this was a big job. Right now, it looks like It’s going to take 6 years to get this job done.

Yeah but you were saying in the last year of ash there were no problems

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Yeah but you were saying in the last year of ash there were no problems

No I wasn’t. That’s ridiculous.

 

[fsg2_rivals]

No.

 

[Plum Street]

No I wasn’t. That’s ridiculous.

Wow , you really think we are dumb ?? There is a search feature. Here is a post in may 2019 with you defending ash.

https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/ash-can-grow-into-a-good-head-coach.167824/

 

[T2Kplus20]

Hope you weren’t expecting a group of inexperienced coaches to make our offense Big Ten competitive. Their role was to bust their butt recruiting talent, though they probably weren’t as successful recruiting, as we would have liked them to be. The North Jersey recruiting results in particular, have been disappointing, as of late. This came at a cost of players not developing as much as they should have. WRs and QBs in particular, did not show much development.

So now that we have a baseline of talent to one day be successful, we’ve hired the coaching expertise on the offensive side of the ball, to take kids talents to the next level.

One day isn’t today, and there is going to be a lag time between now and when the kids will be operating at maximum efficiency. A new system and new schemes have to be learned, new techniques are being taught, but kids will need a significant amount of repetitions to commit these to muscle memory. That’s why this season is a learning season.

Our record doesn’t matter the next two years, because we are still accumulating talent, and there probably isn’t enough talent to win, though we will do our best. I see our record in the range of 4-6 wins.

The defensive side of the ball has enough talent to be competitive , but the offensive side of the ball needs two more impact players, to be effective, namely WR1 and TE1. These two positions need to be manned by kids who are going to be playing in the NFL one day, and I don’t think we have that yet. Korey Duff could be one of these kids, should he choose to come to Rutgers.

The ‘24 recruiting class, which is shaping up to be a MONSTER class, is going to put us over the top. But they will need a year to develop and acclimate to this level of play.
Surace, who is the Princeton Coaches son, and plays a few miles away from my Moms House, is a baller and is going to lead us to the Rose Bowl, one day.

The ‘23 and ‘24 seasons are free. The ‘25 season is where the rubber meets the road, and we will be able to produce a good number of wins.

Rutgersal capitulates. Admits RU football sucks. Joins the real world.

 

[Plum Street]

A rutgers Al gem from may 2019 “I think Ash will be a much better coach going forward, than prior, because he’s learned from his mistakes.”

@rutgersal you constantly move the posts. This proves you have been full of it . You have been dismissed

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

You constantly move the goal posts Al.

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

I don’t think any season is “free”. People are getting paid a great deal to produce results on the field. Some of the points you’ve made about roster development were made about last season. It’s year 4 in an era when it is easier to close talent gaps. It’s time for the football program to start showing legitimate progress on the field which means a bowl game, more conf wins and more competitive games.

This year we will show a functional offense, but don’t know if there will be enough productivity to win as much as we want to.

A bowl game is probably not in the cards because there isn’t enough talent. You can close talent gaps with nil support and acquiring proven talent, such as what USC did. But that is not available to us, currently. But if we can get 200 people to donate $10K, that will give us a $2M warchest to acquire transfers for the ‘24 season.

If we are going to wait for our kids to develop, then we will probably have to wait till ‘25 for a winning season. We either have the players or we don’t have the players. Right now, we don’t.

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

A rutgers Al gem from may 2019 “I think Ash will be a much better coach going forward, than prior, because he’s learned from his mistakes.”

@rutgersal you constantly move the posts. This proves you have been full of it . You have been dismissed

Is it that great a sin to expect our head coach to get better? He was our head coach afterall.

 

[MADHAT1]

You constantly move the goal posts Al.

this is common practice for some others that post their opinions.
When replies refute what was posted, words changed to make the issue look different

 

[DJ Spanky]

You constantly move the goal posts Al.

Gotta agree with you on this. (I know, shocking! Next dogs will be mating with cats.)

These aren't 2 free years. Much like 2004 and 2005, we need to show an upward trend in the overall competitiveness of the program.

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

Hope you weren’t expecting a group of inexperienced coaches to make our offense Big Ten competitive. Their role was to bust their butt recruiting talent, though they probably weren’t as successful recruiting, as we would have liked them to be. The North Jersey recruiting results in particular, have been disappointing, as of late. This came at a cost of players not developing as much as they should have. WRs and QBs in particular, did not show much development.

So now that we have a baseline of talent to one day be successful, we’ve hired the coaching expertise on the offensive side of the ball, to take kids talents to the next level.

One day isn’t today, and there is going to be a lag time between now and when the kids will be operating at maximum efficiency. A new system and new schemes have to be learned, new techniques are being taught, but kids will need a significant amount of repetitions to commit these to muscle memory. That’s why this season is a learning season.

Our record doesn’t matter the next two years, because we are still accumulating talent, and there probably isn’t enough talent to win, though we will do our best. I see our record in the range of 4-6 wins.

The defensive side of the ball has enough talent to be competitive , but the offensive side of the ball needs two more impact players, to be effective, namely WR1 and TE1. These two positions need to be manned by kids who are going to be playing in the NFL one day, and I don’t think we have that yet. Korey Duff could be one of these kids, should he choose to come to Rutgers.

The ‘24 recruiting class, which is shaping up to be a MONSTER class, is going to put us over the top. But they will need a year to develop and acclimate to this level of play.
Surace, who is the Princeton Coaches son, and plays a few miles away from my Moms House, is a baller and is going to lead us to the Rose Bowl, one day.

The ‘23 and ‘24 seasons are free. The ‘25 season is where the rubber meets the road, and we will be able to produce a good number of wins.

Let's hope that when the rubber hits the road, RU isn't laying motionless when the truck comes roaring along.

 

[Mr_Twister]

Stop with the “North Jersey recruiting results”. Myopic Mr. Magoo stuff. Same old. Same old. It’s about talent, not geography and convenience.

 

[Rutgers85_rivals]

Hope you weren’t expecting a group of inexperienced coaches to make our offense Big Ten competitive. Their role was to bust their butt recruiting talent, though they probably weren’t as successful recruiting, as we would have liked them to be. The North Jersey recruiting results in particular, have been disappointing, as of late. This came at a cost of players not developing as much as they should have. WRs and QBs in particular, did not show much development.

So now that we have a baseline of talent to one day be successful, we’ve hired the coaching expertise on the offensive side of the ball, to take kids talents to the next level.

One day isn’t today, and there is going to be a lag time between now and when the kids will be operating at maximum efficiency. A new system and new schemes have to be learned, new techniques are being taught, but kids will need a significant amount of repetitions to commit these to muscle memory. That’s why this season is a learning season.

Our record doesn’t matter the next two years, because we are still accumulating talent, and there probably isn’t enough talent to win, though we will do our best. I see our record in the range of 4-6 wins.

The defensive side of the ball has enough talent to be competitive , but the offensive side of the ball needs two more impact players, to be effective, namely WR1 and TE1. These two positions need to be manned by kids who are going to be playing in the NFL one day, and I don’t think we have that yet. Korey Duff could be one of these kids, should he choose to come to Rutgers.

The ‘24 recruiting class, which is shaping up to be a MONSTER class, is going to put us over the top. But they will need a year to develop and acclimate to this level of play.
Surace, who is the Princeton Coaches son, and plays a few miles away from my Moms House, is a baller and is going to lead us to the Rose Bowl, one day.

The ‘23 and ‘24 seasons are free. The ‘25 season is where the rubber meets the road, and we will be able to produce a good number of wins.

2024 class is nowhere near shaping up to be a MONSTER class. All 3 stars which is nice.

 

[e5fdny]

Felt it was important it had be posted twice, here and the Round Table.

Is tMB next?

 

[DJ Spanky]

Felt it was important it had be posted twice, here and the Round Table.

An attention ***** is gonna attention *****!

 

[mdk02]

Felt it was important it had be posted twice, here and the Round Table.

Is tMB next?

No. Message Board Geniuses.

 

[RUScrew85]

Let's hope that when the rubber hits the road, RU isn't laying motionless when the truck comes roaring along.

Of course we hope it isn't but that's the way to bet.

 

[brgRC90]

How nice of Al to give the coach a pass on behalf of everyone for 2 more years. Wake me when the team is no longer torture to watch.

 

[dconifer0]

Sweet deal for coach

 

[e5fdny]

No. Message Board Geniuses.

They’ll probably find this soon enough.

 

[chase07470]

Hope you weren’t expecting a group of inexperienced coaches to make our offense Big Ten competitive. Their role was to bust their butt recruiting talent, though they probably weren’t as successful recruiting, as we would have liked them to be. The North Jersey recruiting results in particular, have been disappointing, as of late. This came at a cost of players not developing as much as they should have. WRs and QBs in particular, did not show much development.

So now that we have a baseline of talent to one day be successful, we’ve hired the coaching expertise on the offensive side of the ball, to take kids talents to the next level.

One day isn’t today, and there is going to be a lag time between now and when the kids will be operating at maximum efficiency. A new system and new schemes have to be learned, new techniques are being taught, but kids will need a significant amount of repetitions to commit these to muscle memory. That’s why this season is a learning season.

Our record doesn’t matter the next two years, because we are still accumulating talent, and there probably isn’t enough talent to win, though we will do our best. I see our record in the range of 4-6 wins.

The defensive side of the ball has enough talent to be competitive , but the offensive side of the ball needs two more impact players, to be effective, namely WR1 and TE1. These two positions need to be manned by kids who are going to be playing in the NFL one day, and I don’t think we have that yet. Korey Duff could be one of these kids, should he choose to come to Rutgers.

The ‘24 recruiting class, which is shaping up to be a MONSTER class, is going to put us over the top. But they will need a year to develop and acclimate to this level of play.
Surace, who is the Princeton Coaches son, and plays a few miles away from my Moms House, is a baller and is going to lead us to the Rose Bowl, one day.

The ‘23 and ‘24 seasons are free. The ‘25 season is where the rubber meets the road, and we will be able to produce a good number of wins.

Completely agree, Al. The goal is to be Iowa, a gritty team that competes above its recruiting profile, year after year. No FB coach one walks into Rutgers and suddenly gets the classes to make that happen. It takes time. But you can see the momentum with this recruiting class, it's happening.

It's tough being a Rutgers fan. We fight uphill against money, resources, tradition...so many tailwinds for competing programs that we don't have. Schiano brings an alternate message and program, a sincere focus on the kids and their development as human beings, that resonates and enables us to win recruiting battles that Flood and Ash couldn't sniff. Lose that and its back to square one because there just isn't anything else to sell that compares favorably to what can be had elsewhere. Stark reality.

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

How nice of Al to give the coach a pass on behalf of everyone for 2 more years. Wake me when the team is no longer torture to watch.

Not a pass. It’s recognition that it takes time to build a competitive team in the toughest football division in America, especially when there is no NIL support and the football fieldhouse hasn’t been built. During Schiano I, it took him 5 years. This time, it’s looking like it’s going to take 6 years, so not much different from the first time.

 

[RUforlife]

Hope you weren’t expecting a group of inexperienced coaches to make our offense Big Ten competitive. Their role was to bust their butt recruiting talent, though they probably weren’t as successful recruiting, as we would have liked them to be. The North Jersey recruiting results in particular, have been disappointing, as of late. This came at a cost of players not developing as much as they should have. WRs and QBs in particular, did not show much development.

So now that we have a baseline of talent to one day be successful, we’ve hired the coaching expertise on the offensive side of the ball, to take kids talents to the next level.

One day isn’t today, and there is going to be a lag time between now and when the kids will be operating at maximum efficiency. A new system and new schemes have to be learned, new techniques are being taught, but kids will need a significant amount of repetitions to commit these to muscle memory. That’s why this season is a learning season.

Our record doesn’t matter the next two years, because we are still accumulating talent, and there probably isn’t enough talent to win, though we will do our best. I see our record in the range of 4-6 wins.

The defensive side of the ball has enough talent to be competitive , but the offensive side of the ball needs two more impact players, to be effective, namely WR1 and TE1. These two positions need to be manned by kids who are going to be playing in the NFL one day, and I don’t think we have that yet. Korey Duff could be one of these kids, should he choose to come to Rutgers.

The ‘24 recruiting class, which is shaping up to be a MONSTER class, is going to put us over the top. But they will need a year to develop and acclimate to this level of play.
Surace, who is the Princeton Coaches son, and plays a few miles away from my Moms House, is a baller and is going to lead us to the Rose Bowl, one day.

The ‘23 and ‘24 seasons are free. The ‘25 season is where the rubber meets the road, and we will be able to produce a good number of wins.

Absolutely no season is free in P5 football. If Greg Schiano and Rutgers football needs two more years to rebuild a program in the transfer portal then maybe we should start considering dropping football, or better yet FIRE an incompetent coach. Just a thought.

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Absolutely no season is free in P5 football. If Greg Schiano and Rutgers football needs two more years to rebuild a program in the transfer portal then maybe we should start considering dropping football, or better yet FIRE an incompetent coach. Just a thought.

The first three years were free. What’s an additional two years?

The coach is not incompetent. Some fans are clueless. So youd rather take in a new coach who will take another five years to turn things around, then give the current coach a few years to do the same? Look at our recruiting class. We’ve got serious talent coming in.

It took 5 years during Schiano I to build a competitive football program. This time it looks like it’s going to take 6 years. Acceptable considering we are playing in a much more difficult conference.

The transfer portal is unavailable to us to acquire impact players because there is no nil support for that purpose.

We either need to support nil to bring in impact players, so we can win, or we wait for kids to develop.

 

[RUforlife]

The first three years were free. What’s an additional two years?

The coach is not incompetent. Some fans are clueless. So youd rather take in a new coach who will take another five years to turn things around, then give the current coach a few years to do the same? Look at our recruiting class. We’ve got serious talent coming in.

It took 5 years during Schiano I to build a competitive football program. This time it looks like it’s going to take 6 years. Acceptable considering we are playing in a much more difficult conference.

The transfer portal is unavailable to us to acquire impact players because there is no nil support for that purpose.

We either need to support nil to bring in impact players, so we can win, or we wait for kids to develop.

Arguing for 5 free years for a HC of P5 program is probably the most pathetic post not only in the history of this site, but probably all sports boards put together.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

We should definitely extend Schiano now. Saban isn’t getting any younger and a replacement at Bama will be needed soon. It’s certainly noticed what he’s done on his 2nd stint here.

 

[Knight Shift]

Hope you weren’t expecting a group of inexperienced coaches to make our offense Big Ten competitive. Their role was to bust their butt recruiting talent, though they probably weren’t as successful recruiting, as we would have liked them to be. The North Jersey recruiting results in particular, have been disappointing, as of late. This came at a cost of players not developing as much as they should have. WRs and QBs in particular, did not show much development.

So now that we have a baseline of talent to one day be successful, we’ve hired the coaching expertise on the offensive side of the ball, to take kids talents to the next level.

One day isn’t today, and there is going to be a lag time between now and when the kids will be operating at maximum efficiency. A new system and new schemes have to be learned, new techniques are being taught, but kids will need a significant amount of repetitions to commit these to muscle memory. That’s why this season is a learning season.

Our record doesn’t matter the next two years, because we are still accumulating talent, and there probably isn’t enough talent to win, though we will do our best. I see our record in the range of 4-6 wins.

The defensive side of the ball has enough talent to be competitive , but the offensive side of the ball needs two more impact players, to be effective, namely WR1 and TE1. These two positions need to be manned by kids who are going to be playing in the NFL one day, and I don’t think we have that yet. Korey Duff could be one of these kids, should he choose to come to Rutgers.

The ‘24 recruiting class, which is shaping up to be a MONSTER class, is going to put us over the top. But they will need a year to develop and acclimate to this level of play.
Surace, who is the Princeton Coaches son, and plays a few miles away from my Moms House, is a baller and is going to lead us to the Rose Bowl, one day.

The ‘23 and ‘24 seasons are free. The ‘25 season is where the rubber meets the road, and we will be able to produce a good number of wins.

Al's nonstop excuse parade never stops. In '25, it will be something different. BTW, nothing in life is free. And Greg understands that.

 

[Knight Shift]

2024 class is nowhere near shaping up to be a MONSTER class. All 3 stars which is nice.

Offer list means more than star ratings, IMO. Some of those 3 stars have sick offer lists.

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Arguing for 5 free years for a HC of P5 program is probably the most pathetic post not only in the history of this site, but probably all sports boards put together.

You are not understanding the vision or the constraints that this program has. An 8 year contract was given to recognize the difficulty of the task at hand. We are building the program the right way, but this will take time.