The Save Act

CTN-1

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I understand, you can't compete for minority voters, so you want to do everything you can to limit the number of them who vote. ID requirement (accompanied by new rules making it harder to get an ID); stationing IC goons around polling precincts "to make sure nothing goes wrong with the vote;" gerrymandering to get dilute minority votes wherever possible, attempts to ban motor voter and Saturday voting (i.e., "souls to the polls"). It's anti-American and pathetic, but understandable. That's how Trump Cultists roll.
I think the purple hair white women and the trainy queen story time stuff has been a bit too much for young minority voters and that demographic is shifting towards conservative principles. It would be interesting to see if there was a third party in this Country how the components of the GOP and DNC would shift.
Also I know a lot of people hate President Trump but he deserves credit for a lot of good things including making it difficult for the uniparty most notably on the GOP rhinos.
Young people can perceive the righting of the ship for the pubs so to speak and are comparing that to the dems who have gone off the rails left , something else that is changing the way young people (including minorities) will likely vote moving forward.
It also feels like the right has shifted left over the years and today’s republican is the Clinton era democrat . Maybe not the whole party but DJT is a old school democrat and he has been the head of that (GOP)party for over a decade now.
 

baltimorened

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I understand, you can't compete for minority voters, so you want to do everything you can to limit the number of them who vote. ID requirement (accompanied by new rules making it harder to get an ID); stationing IC goons around polling precincts "to make sure nothing goes wrong with the vote;" gerrymandering to get dilute minority votes wherever possible, attempts to ban motor voter and Saturday voting (i.e., "souls to the polls"). It's anti-American and pathetic, but understandable. That's how Trump Cultists roll.
don't you have a copy of your birth certificate? It's so hard....in California you have to go online to "vital records online" , look for the tag "get birth certificate" click on it and follow instructions.

This whole "it soooo hard to get copy of my birth certificate" is just dumb.

it's equally difficult in south Carolina...look up"how to get birth certificate in south Carolina"....click on the tag "get birth certificate" and follow instructions. If a person is incapable of doing this...maybe we don't want them voting
 
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TigerGrowls

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Everyone read this closely.



Trump doesn’t need Congress to pass the SAVE Act.
It’s a narrative “weapon” to beat the democrats with, as we expose their “conspiracy” to steal elections.

This isn’t about politics.

This is a “national security” issue and the Constitution gives the president plenary power over “national security.”

Trump ALREADY possesses, the Constitutional authority to install voter ID for all elections in every single state.

Q drop
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Nov 12, 2020 10:20:17 PM EST

Shall we play a game?
[N]othing [C]an top [W]hat s [C]oming
NCSWIC
cisa.gov/safecom/NCSWIC
Who stepped down today [forced]?
cisa.gov/bryan-s-ware
More coming?
Why is this relevant?
How do you 'show' the public the truth?
How do you 'safeguard' US elections post-POTUS?
How do you 'remove' foreign interference and corruption and install US-owned VOTER ID law(s) and other safeguards?
It had to be this way.
Sometimes you must walk through the darkness before you see the light.
Q

Did you catch that?

“US-owned VOTER ID law(s).”

Proof of citizenship.

Not just a “photo ID.”
The end to Clinton’s Motor Voter Law, which allowed states to give driver’s licenses to illegals and register them to vote at the same time.

Only American citizens are allowed to vote in this “representative” Republic.

The 14th Amendment

Section 1

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Did you catch the most important part?
The part that everyone loves to ignore, except Trump.

“AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof”

Only citizens have Constitutionally protected “rights.”
One of those “rights,” is the right to vote.

The 14th Amendment then goes on to talk about electing representatives of our government, including the president.

It says this specifically:

“But when the right to vote at any election”…..

Only American citizens have a Constitutional right to vote in elections.

And the SUPREME COURT’S coming decision on birthright citizenship, is going to uphold that other part of the 14th Amendment that gets ignored.

“AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof”….

Non citizens are not “subject” to the US and do not have Constitutional protections.
And guess what?
Neither do their children, no matter if they are born here or not.

When the Supreme Court ends “birthright citizenship,” the democrats are going to go ape **** crazy.

But it’s coming.

Trump is restoring the Constitution.

He will soon sign an EO, requiring proof of citizenship and voter ID to vote.

The democrats will file a lawsuit to try and stop it and Trump will win another decision at the Supreme Court.

US-owned voter ID coming.

But there’s more.

Read Trump’s post carefully.

Did you catch this?

Trump “searched the depths of legal arguments not yet articulated or vetted on this subject, and will be presenting an irrefutable one in the very near future.”

It’s a “national security” issue now.

Do you think there has ever been a Supreme Court case that “articulated and vetted the subject” of NATIONAL SECURITY, when it comes to our elections?

Trump already has the EVIDENCE of a “conspiracy” to steal the 2020 election and also has EVIDENCE of “foreign interference.”

Are you seeing what’s coming?

Am I painting the full picture?

Does anybody remember why every single lawsuit, trying to expose the 2020 election fraud, was thrown out of the courts?

“LACK OF STANDING.”

Guess who has PLENARY POWER over “national security” according to the Constitution?

Guess who has “STANDING” at the Supreme Court, to reveal EVIDENCE of the stolen election and require proof of citizenship voter ID at the same time?
 

dpic73

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I think the purple hair white women and the trainy queen story time stuff has been a bit too much for young minority voters and that demographic is shifting towards conservative principles. It would be interesting to see if there was a third party in this Country how the components of the GOP and DNC would shift.
Also I know a lot of people hate President Trump but he deserves credit for a lot of good things including making it difficult for the uniparty most notably on the GOP rhinos.
Young people can perceive the righting of the ship for the pubs so to speak and are comparing that to the dems who have gone off the rails left , something else that is changing the way young people (including minorities) will likely vote moving forward.
It also feels like the right has shifted left over the years and today’s republican is the Clinton era democrat . Maybe not the whole party but DJT is a old school democrat and he has been the head of that (GOP)party for over a decade now.
It's amusing how you people in your (dis)information silos think. But please keep believing the things on LibsofTikTok that twist up your drawers project to America's youth or minorities.



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dpic73

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don't you have a copy of your birth certificate? It's so hard....in California you have to go online to "vital records online" , look for the tag "get birth certificate" click on it and follow instructions.

This whole "it soooo hard to get copy of my birth certificate" is just dumb.

it's equally difficult in south Carolina...look up"how to get birth certificate in south Carolina"....click on the tag "get birth certificate" and follow instructions. If a person is incapable of doing this...maybe we don't want them voting
The Save Act requires you to register in person.
 

dpic73

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The new sheriff is instituting lawful order. Deal with it. You said illegals do not vote so you got nothing to worry about.
You're right. Are you saying all the elections will swing right because you removed people who don't/can't vote? LOLOLOL

Are you telling me the huge upsets in red statesTexas(31 pt. swing) and Louisiana(37 pt. swing) recently were because of illegals voting?

What will your excuse be when we still win even though illegals have been deported - in blue AND red states?
 

dpic73

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Sorry, I am not on any social media outside of this board.
But somehow you believe that purple-haired white women and drag queen story hour will ensure the youth vote moves right? 🤣

You go boy with your opinion based on nothing.
 

CTN-1

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But somehow you believe that purple-haired white women and drag queen story hour will ensure the youth vote moves right? 🤣

You go boy with your opinion based on nothing.
Fwiw my opinion is my own just as anyone else but it is based in everyday observation and actual in person conversations.

I notice you like to use X post, is that how you formulate your opinions?
 

dpic73

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Fwiw my opinion is my own just as anyone else but it is based in everyday observation and actual in person conversations.

I notice you like to use X post, is that how you formulate your opinions?
Let me guess, you live in a ruby red state where all your neighbors think like you, amirite?

No, I read a lot but I use X only because the posts display better and the talking points are distilled in the viewable reading pane.
 

TigerGrowls

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🚨 BREAKING: Sen. Mike Lee just called on the Senate GOP to FAST-TRACK nuking the Zombie Filibuster for the SAVE America Act

"The longer we wait, the harder it’ll get to pass the SAVE America Act!"

"Senate Republicans should rip off the Zombie Filibuster next week."

He's right. TIme's wasting.

There is no reason to delay an 80-20 issue. LET'S GO! 🇺🇸
 

TigerGrowls

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Debunking Fearmongering Myths About the SAVE Act:

1. You will NOT need a birth certificate or passport to vote. This only applies when you REGISTER to vote, and there are multiple ways to prove citizenship.

2. According to the SAVE Act, states are required to make additional provisions for those who have changed their last names. Each state also has the authority to make that process even easier.

3. Only new registrations or registration updates would require proof of citizenship. If you are already registered, nothing changes for you. These numbers they are throwing out of “70 million women won’t be able to vote” are COMPLETELY false!

4. Democrats will never let this pass the Senate. These people are freaking out for no reason. It is all talking points designed to make it seem like Republicans are attacking women’s right to vote. They know exactly what they are doing.

5. Many Americans support voter ID LAWS. It’s mainly Democrat politicians and the far left that oppose. Most developed countries require identification to vote.

6. The talking point that women are incapable of proving their identity is itself insulting. Women manage businesses, families, careers, and legal documents every day. If someone truly believes there are barriers, the solution is to help people obtain documentation, not assume they are incapable and the lower the standards for all. This is a form of bigotry!

The left operates from a place of false talking points and triggered feelings. It’s important to debunk them and stick to the facts!
 
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TigerGrowls

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He didn't expose sh*t. This was a well known case and the perpetrator was prosecuted for it long before he ever stepped foot in the state. Nick is a liar.
Don't be a sore loser dpic. Young people like Nick Shirley are a national treasure.
 
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TigerGrowls

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We know what's up.



19 states give illegal aliens drivers licenses, all refuse to turn over full voter rolls to the Trump Admin, DOJ has sued 17 of them -

1. California
2. Colorado
3. Connecticut
4. Delaware
5. Hawaii
6. Illinois
7. Maryland
8. Massachusetts
9. Minnesota
10. Nevada
11. New Jersey
12. New Mexico
13. New York
14. Oregon
15. Rhode Island
16. Utah
17.Vermont
18. Virginia
19. Washington State
 

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We know what's up.



19 states give illegal aliens drivers licenses, all refuse to turn over full voter rolls to the Trump Admin, DOJ has sued 17 of them -

1. California
2. Colorado
3. Connecticut
4. Delaware
5. Hawaii
6. Illinois
7. Maryland
8. Massachusetts
9. Minnesota
10. Nevada
11. New Jersey
12. New Mexico
13. New York
14. Oregon
15. Rhode Island
16. Utah
17.Vermont
18. Virginia
19. Washington State

That's the democrat playbook.
  1. Allow low income immigrants to enter illegally
  2. Claim that they're entitled to amnesty hearings
  3. Subsidize their presence while they wait. Demand federal assistance for this.
  4. Provide sanctuary in major cities
  5. Provide SS cards and driver's licenses so they can work and travel while they wait
  6. Claim that they deserve an appeal once their asylum claim is denied
  7. Argue that we deport them because they have been here so long and have families. Separation would be cruel.
 

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That's the democrat playbook.
  1. Allow low income immigrants to enter illegally
  2. Claim that they're entitled to amnesty hearings
  3. Subsidize their presence while they wait. Demand federal assistance for this.
  4. Provide sanctuary in major cities
  5. Provide SS cards and driver's licenses so they can work and travel while they wait
  6. Claim that they deserve an appeal once their asylum claim is denied
  7. Argue that we deport them because they have been here so long and have families. Separation would be cruel.
8. Make sure that they are counted in the census and factor them in for apportionment of federal representation and resource
 

dpic73

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8. Make sure that they are counted in the census and factor them in for apportionment of federal representation and resource
Even if we deported them all, it wouldn't make a difference.

Based on 2020 Census data and recent demographic projections, removing all unauthorized immigrants from the population count would likely result in the loss of one seat each for Texas and Florida.

State-by-State Impact

Recent studies from the Pew Research Center and other nonpartisan groups highlight how these specific states would be affected:
  • Texas: Would lose 1 seat. Some older or more aggressive models from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) suggested a potential loss of 2 seats if the minor children of unauthorized immigrants were also excluded, but most consensus data points to a single-seat shift for the adult population alone.
  • Florida: Would lose 1 seat. Similar to Texas, while Florida has a large immigrant population, the state also saw massive growth from domestic migration (people moving from other states), which helps offset some of the potential loss.

Wider Apportionment Context
  • National Redistribution: If unauthorized immigrants were removed from the count, the seats they currently occupy in high-immigration states like Texas, Florida, and California (which would also lose one seat) would be redistributed to states with smaller unauthorized populations.


  • Gaining States: States expected to gain a seat in this scenario include Alabama, Ohio and Minnesota
    • Political Balance: Research indicates the net partisan impact would be minimal. While seats would move from "red" or "blue" high-growth states to others, the overall balance of power between Democrats and Republicans in the House of Representatives would remain largely unchanged.

    Research from the Pew Research Center and the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) suggests the following specific impacts on blue states:
    • California : Would lose 1 seat.
    • New York : Some models suggest New York would lose 0 to 1 seat.
    • Minnesota : This Democratic-leaning state would actually gain 1 seat in this scenario, as seats are redistributed from states with higher unauthorized populations.

      Key Findings on Partisan Impact
    • Net Partisan Change: Analysis by Third Way and researchers at the University of Minnesota found that excluding undocumented residents would have had "minimal" to "virtually nonexistent" effects on party control of the House.
    • Red State Impact: The impact is not exclusive to Democratic states; Republican-led Texas and Florida are also projected to lose one seat each if unauthorized immigrants were deported.

    • Future Trends: Recent data from the Cato Institute indicates that 95% of noncitizen population growth between 2019 and 2023 occurred in Republican-led states, suggesting that GOP-leaning states might face greater seat losses in future apportionment cycles if these populations were excluded.

    Reapportionment if all illegals are deported












 
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