Not to mention that everyone in the country knew they were going to pass on 4th and 5.
The Sisky Shitstorm, wtf?
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Not to mention that everyone in the country knew they were going to pass on 4th and 5.
I'm talking about the normal Ole Miss fans that I know personally. Not the message board variety.
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they've got to have some explanation to why the great hugh freeze and his all-world, soon-to-be-SEC-title-contenders were shutout. It cannot be as simple as the fact that Alabama is just so much better than OM. Can't be.
they've got to have some explanation to why the great hugh freeze and his all-world, soon-to-be-SEC-title-contenders were shutout. It cannot be as simple as the fact that Alabama is just so much better than OM. Can't be.
My immediate thought when reading this:
"I once coached in a game where our staff not only had all of the defensive signals of the opponent, but we also had the defensive playbook. And we still couldn’t move the ball."
was, did he coach in a game against Joe Lee Dunn?
"I once coached in a game where our staff not only had all of the defensive signals of the opponent, but we also had the defensive playbook. And we still couldn’t move the ball."
was, did he coach in a game against Joe Lee Dunn?
So, in your twisted mind, a coach should never take a job with a school his former employer will play? You do realize Smith left State for Auburn and Mullen left FL for State? If bama knew what Freeze was calling that is 100% on Freeze for being a dumbshit.
I don't see where you are helping your argument.
“You never like to lose somebody,” Freeze said. “It happens. If Siskey feels like it is bettering his family, I’m a family-first guy. We’re still friends. Obviously we don’t talk a lot.
“Everything will be changed with the offense. You have to change things when you lose somebody like that.”
Bo Wallace, the Mississippi quarterback, was on spring break when he learned Siskey was leaving for Alabama. Wallace said that there was no traditional playbook for the Rebels’ no-huddle offense but that they “wouldn’t have let him get out of the office with it if there was.”
Wallace added, “We’re still working on changing things.”
Freeze just smiled when asked if Alabama viewed Ole Miss as enough of a threat to raid the Rebels’ staff. He understands that Siskey has tremendous value as a recruiter and that Alabama is home to him.
“You look at it as just another challenge,” Freeze said. “Certainly it’s not something we wanted to happen, but we’ve got to move on, and we can’t use that as a woe-is-me type mentality. We have to make adjustments and move on. That’s what coaching is about anyway.
“I needed to change things anyway. It pushed me to go ahead and do it.”
“You never like to lose somebody,” Freeze said. “It happens. If Siskey feels like it is bettering his family, I’m a family-first guy. We’re still friends. Obviously we don’t talk a lot.
“Everything will be changed with the offense. You have to change things when you lose somebody like that.”
Bo Wallace, the Mississippi quarterback, was on spring break when he learned Siskey was leaving for Alabama. Wallace said that there was no traditional playbook for the Rebels’ no-huddle offense but that they “wouldn’t have let him get out of the office with it if there was.”
Wallace added, “We’re still working on changing things.”
Freeze just smiled when asked if Alabama viewed Ole Miss as enough of a threat to raid the Rebels’ staff. He understands that Siskey has tremendous value as a recruiter and that Alabama is home to him.
“You look at it as just another challenge,” Freeze said. “Certainly it’s not something we wanted to happen, but we’ve got to move on, and we can’t use that as a woe-is-me type mentality. We have to make adjustments and move on. That’s what coaching is about anyway.
“I needed to change things anyway. It pushed me to go ahead and do it.”
You do realize that hurts your argument, right? If freeze is too damn stupid to change his signals, ole miss has bigger problems than bama stealing their signals.
When you've got a couple of these just laying around, of course there will be attrition in your staff.
It makes plenty of sense, but that doesn't mean Saban didn't hire an ex-coach to give him an edge against the bears--that question was asked long before this game. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/19/s...he-tempo-saban-remains-a-step-ahead.html?_r=0
I freely admit I'm not an Alabama fan, and even more so not a Saban fan. What a lot of people don't seem to realize is that until someone knocks UA off it's throne, they will continue to steal whatever Mississippi recruits they want. They have better facilities, assistants, etc and their fan base believes the NC is exclusively theirs. Some deranged fan poisons the trees at Auburn after bama gets beat and has the stones to mock JFF in a tweet after AU beats him. A bama fan teabags a comatose LSU student, the most favorable refs calls, ect, etc.
And Saban is just as bad. Anything for an edge--whatever it takes. Pull an offer on NSD as the kid is on the stage about to announce to his signing with bama because a higher rated recruit suddenly flips, stepping over a player convulsing on the field like he's not even there, telling injured players to quit the program to make room for more scollys--players injured giving their all for UA, hiring "coaches" in strategically placed big cities to basically be full time local recruiters, etc, etc.
I can't believe anyone supports that POS program. You gotta know he's going to raid Mississippi talent anytime he wants. We won't get enough oxygen to "get to the next level." Until the playing field is leveled--and the boosters will see it never is-- there will never be anything like parity in college football.
Why can't they just play the 17ing game? This was just the final straw for me. Just because it was the bears doesn't really make it any better. I hope Oregon beats the **** out of them.
I freely admit I'm not an Alabama fan, and even more so not a Saban fan. What a lot of people don't seem to realize is that until someone knocks UA off it's throne, they will continue to steal whatever Mississippi recruits they want. They have better facilities, assistants, etc and their fan base believes the NC is exclusively theirs. Some deranged fan poisons the trees at Auburn after bama gets beat and has the stones to mock JFF in a tweet after AU beats him. A bama fan teabags a comatose LSU student, the most favorable refs calls, ect, etc.
And Saban is just as bad. Anything for an edge--whatever it takes. Pull an offer on NSD as the kid is on the stage about to announce to his signing with bama because a higher rated recruit suddenly flips, stepping over a player convulsing on the field like he's not even there, telling injured players to quit the program to make room for more scollys--players injured giving their all for UA, hiring "coaches" in strategically placed big cities to basically be full time local recruiters, etc, etc.
I can't believe anyone supports that POS program. You gotta know he's going to raid Mississippi talent anytime he wants. We won't get enough oxygen to "get to the next level." Until the playing field is leveled--and the boosters will see it never is-- there will never be anything like parity in college football.
Why can't they just play the 17ing game? This was just the final straw for me. Just because it was the bears doesn't really make it any better. I hope Oregon beats the **** out of them.
http://olerebelblog.com/former-ole-miss-recruiting-coordinator-caught-deciphering-plays-for-alabama/
this has been shared 20+ times on my facebook newsfeed
this has been shared 20+ times on my facebook newsfeed
Did Nick Saban bang your wife or did you bet on the Bears big this week and lose your car???
Wow....
Wow....
I'm not going to pretend I like or respect him in any form. He's a POS as a human being.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/02/nick_sabans_actions_show_commi.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703384204575509901468451306.html
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/02/05/dalvin-tomlinson-speaks-out-on-alabama-grayshirt-scandal/
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...re-incident-with-dolphins-paints-ugly-picture
I ain't drinking the piss they call Alabama's Koolaid.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/02/nick_sabans_actions_show_commi.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703384204575509901468451306.html
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/02/05/dalvin-tomlinson-speaks-out-on-alabama-grayshirt-scandal/
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...re-incident-with-dolphins-paints-ugly-picture
I ain't drinking the piss they call Alabama's Koolaid.
You think our coaching staff doesn't use those tactics in roster management when necessary?
The difference is no one gives a piss about our roster enough to do exposes on the damn thing.
The difference is no one gives a piss about our roster enough to do exposes on the damn thing.
Nothing like Alabama constantly cherrypicking Mississippi**
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To answer the question "was he hired to help against OM" I think the answer is "yes". Siskey isn't a coach. His salary at bama is $75k. He was with freeze for 3 years and part of his job was developing the methods used to call plays from the sideline. Freeze had scouted his role in prior games and Siskey basically did nothing, and I believe he thought this would be the case Saturday. Again, the guy is essentially a secretary at bama. Well, obviously this wasn't the case Saturday. Is saban a piece of **** for pulling this off? Yes! Is freeze an idiot for not expecting that? Yes! We will never know the effect he had on the game so freeze just needs to admit he screwed up royally if on fact it effected to game and learn a lesson. It was against the rules and unethical, but welcome to the SEC freeze.
I like how you make it sound as though Freeze is such and alter boy that doesn't understand the dirty side of coaching. You people are a hoot.
And last but not least, you are a complete 17tard if you think Saban needed your piddly-*** former assistant to win that game.
Why do you think his damn secretary was in the coach's box with binoculars? You are pretty damn ignorant to think he was not using Siskey. I never said it would change the game, but there was some value to it or Siskey would have been cleaning the caps in Gatorade bottles like he was every other game.
Nothing.
The difference between this loss and the moral victory of last year that convinced them(and others) in advance that they'd move the ball on Saban when he was actually focused on them as a priority is a GRAND TOTAL of 13 yards.... That's the difference in OM total offense against Alabama between 2012 and 2013. Needless to say -- as a fanbase -- they've come a LONG way from the moral victory they felt last year in Tuscaloosa in a game that they were never actually "in" any moreso than the one this year.
The online meltdown has been humorous -- but unnecessary. It's just a reality that was always going to hit. Common sense OM people were still not surprised by the outcome. At least not the ones I know...
Are you really saying you would have beaten Bama without Siskey being in the box?
If so, you need another dose of reality...
If so, you need another dose of reality...
How insane is this? Alabama, who is going for their 4th title in 5 years felt that they had to go out and hire an assistant from a 6 win team during the offseason to be able to beat them the next year? Really? this is what you're saying?!
Why didn't saban hire someone off if TAMU's staff?
Or LSU? Why is he only concerned about that powerhouse on Oxford?
Or LSU? Why is he only concerned about that powerhouse on Oxford?
I didn't expect us to go into T-Town and steal a victory.
We would have still lost regardless of what Siskey did.
There is nothing wrong with hiring a coach away as they did. I'm pretty certain that our signals were changed after Siskey left. But when you have an intimate enough knowledge of an offense, after one quarter you can determine the new signals and make a pretty reasonable estimation of pass or run. Siskey being in the box with binoculars is cheating. Its Bama. We were going to lose anyway.
With all this said. I won't use Siskey as an excuse.
A more reasonable excuse would be to blame Bracky Brett for our shortcomings.
We would have still lost regardless of what Siskey did.
There is nothing wrong with hiring a coach away as they did. I'm pretty certain that our signals were changed after Siskey left. But when you have an intimate enough knowledge of an offense, after one quarter you can determine the new signals and make a pretty reasonable estimation of pass or run. Siskey being in the box with binoculars is cheating. Its Bama. We were going to lose anyway.
With all this said. I won't use Siskey as an excuse.
A more reasonable excuse would be to blame Bracky Brett for our shortcomings.