This team is tired

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

We’re not hitting our free throws, we’re turning the ball over, and we’re not playing sound basketball, things we need to do to win. No amount of hand wringing and pouting is going to change that. The starters are playing too many minutes and they’re exhausted when it comes to crunch time, and needing to close games out. Not getting much support off the bench. Our defensive intensity is lapsing when it’s needed most.

Nothing to do but pick ourselves up and finish as best we can.

 

[bigmatt718]

Shut up. The players on this team knew what they signed up for. Everyone is tired at this point. If they can't handle it go play at the D2 level.

 

[superfan01]

Huh? Every team plays the same number of games.

 

[RuBird]

Let me start by saying we should have won last night and I am pissed. Caleb and Paul are suppose to be leaders. I get Caleb took a hard foul but that does not excess not guarding the in bound pass at the end of the game. Paul is a shell of what he once was. All that said we have played the last 6 out of 8 on the road in one of the toughest conferences where we certainly have seen every team upset. People who say we are out of the tournament our resume last year was much worse. We had horrible quad 4 losses. This year we have had 6 quad 1 wins ( 4 on the road). If and it’s a big if the committee looks at the full body of work and not the last month we should be in.

Need Pike to rally the troops Sunday. Last few games we have had certainly players play well but others play with their head up their ….

Need a team effort. Let’s get this done!

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Shut up. The players on this team knew what they signed up for. Everyone is tired at this point. If they can't handle it go play at the D2 level.

What you don’t understand is that they physically can’t do what they want to do because they are tired and fatigued. It’s isn’t a question of effort or heart. They are doing their best. Need more depth, which is on the way. Minnesota got 23 bench points. We got 8.

 

[Mikemarc]

What you don’t understand is that they physically can’t do what they want to do because they are tired and fatigued. It’s isn’t a question of effort or heart. They are doing their best. Need more depth, which is on the way. Minnesota got 23 bench points. We got 8.

Why could they do what they needed to do for 39 minutes and just stop after 39?

Fatigue comes on gradually. This wasn’t about fatigue, Al. C’mon man

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Huh? Every team plays the same number of games.

But not every team plays with the same amount of talent and quality depth. Paul is clearly fatigued, though he’ll never admit it. This is why his play is suffering.

 

[bigmatt718]

What you don’t understand is that they physically can’t do what they want to do because they are tired and fatigued. It’s isn’t a question of effort or heart. They are doing their best. Need more depth, which is on the way. Minnesota got 23 bench points. We got 8.

Just go back to outlandish posts about the football team. Read the room right now. EVERYONE IN D1 IS TIRED RIGHT NOW. That doesn't excuse blowing a 10 point lead with 1 minute to go.

 

[cyrock3]

I see Al’s making another bid to get another post on Message Board Geniuses.

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Why could they do what they needed to do for 39 minutes and just stop after 39?

Fatigue comes on gradually. This wasn’t about fatigue, Al. C’mon man

We lost our defensive intensity in the last minute, Mike, and to compound it, we made mistakes. We didn’t forget how to defend. This is how you lose when you’re up double digits.

 

[shields]

They played dumb, Hyatt has to know to dribble up the court and don't leave Battle open.

 

[RuBird]

We lost our defensive intensity in the last minute, Mike, and to compound it, we made mistakes. We didn’t forget how to defend. This is how you lose when you’re up double digits.

So every player lost their defensive intensity at the same time? Also was Paul tired fumbling the pass out of bounds? Was Hyatt tired not getting the ball over the mid court line? I get playing the last 6 out of8 games on the road in the toughest league but every single player collapsed in the last minute. That has nothing to do with being tired. Last few years Ron and Geo fought to take the final shots. Now we played keep away with ourselves because no one other than Cam wants to take the shot

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

So every player lost their defensive intensity at the same time? Also was Paul tired fumbling the pass out of bounds? Was Hyatt tired not getting the ball over the mid court line? I get playing the last 6 out of8 games on the road in the toughest league but every single player collapsed in the last minute. That has nothing to do with being tired. Last few years Ron and Geo fought to take the final shots. Now we played keep away with ourselves because no one other than Cam wants to take the shot

In a word yes. Fatigue has contributed to our dumb mistakes and loss of defensive intensity. Too few players have played too many minutes and their mileage is showing. These are kids not machines.

 

[biazza38]

That has 4 days off
I’m not buying it. They were fine for 39 minutes yesterday. I’m so tired of the same bs. They absolutely implode late in games

 

[RuBird]

In a word yes. Fatigue has contributed to our dumb mistakes and loss of defensive intensity. Too few players have played too many minutes and their mileage is showing. These are kids not machines.

Again you are saying that every player hit the fatigue wall with a minute left in the game? In a word…….no

 

[Mikemarc]

In a word yes. Fatigue has contributed to our dumb mistakes and loss of defensive intensity. Too few players have played too many minutes and their mileage is showing. These are kids not machines.

Did you watch the SHU game? Did you watch the Nebraska game? We’re we tired then??

Same mistakes we made late in the game last night are the mistakes we made throughout those games.

It’s just the type of team we are.

 

[Loyal_2RU]

They lost focus. That was the wall they hit. Like not playing to the whistle in football. And it could have been fatigue. Terrible loss

 

[Mikemarc]

We lost our defensive intensity in the last minute, Mike, and to compound it, we made mistakes. We didn’t forget how to defend. This is how you lose when you’re up double digits.

So every single player got fatigued at the exact sane time last light? Got it

 

[kcg88]

Was Minnesota not tired? Jamison Battle played all 40 minutes but somehow had the legs to make six threes.

 

[Mikemarc]

They lost focus. That was the wall they hit. Like not playing to the whistle in football. And it could have been fatigue. Terrible loss

If this lack of focus was out of the ordinary….sure. Could certainly be fatigue.

But we’ve shown huge moments of lack of focus all year. This is nothing new…just happened at a terrible time in the game.

Fatigue wasn’t the issue imo

 

[RuBird]

They lost focus. That was the wall they hit. Like not playing to the whistle in football. And it could have been fatigue. Terrible loss

Lacked confidence not focus. Did you see Caleb before his foul shots late? You had players willing to take shots for 59 minutes but the last minute they played keep away because they were afraid to be fouled and throw up brick FTs. I swear you could see Hyatt panicking. That is why he looked to pass it off rather then just moving the ball 3 ft forward over the mid court line. He knew he’d never make the FTs

 

[bigmatt718]

The bottom line is this: How does this team want to be remembered as? A bunch of mentally weak chokers or the team that got in March Madness for the 3rd year in a row?

 

[NickRU714]

Maybe they were too rested?
Moving the game up to accommodate MSU might have been a good idea in hindsight?

 

[TommyGunn_rivals157283]

I'm the one who's tired. Couldn't sleep for s--t last night thanks to that s--tshow of a performance. Couldn't get it out of my head. Watching this team is the exhausting part.

I just hope this doesn't impact recruiting. I'm already writing this year off. Even if they make the dance (doubtful) they will make a very forgettable early exit.

 

[Loyal_2RU]

I think those two things go together. Focus=>fighting spirit.

Lacked confidence not focus. Did you see Caleb before his foul shots late? You had players willing to take shots for 59 minutes but the last minute they played keep away because they were afraid to be fouled and throw up brick FTs. I swear you could see Hyatt panicking. That is why he looked to pass it off rather then just moving the ball 3 ft forward over the mid court line. He knew he’d never make the FTs

 

[Mikemarc]

Anyone losing sleep over a sports outcome has to count your blessings.

 

[bitnez]

We have missed big FTs in almost every close game this year. They weren’t tired — we’re just not a great team. Frustrating because I think the talent is there to be great but the results prove otherwise.

 

[RuBird]

I think those two things go together. Focus=>fighting spirit.

Focus was fine for 59 minutes. Now all of a sudden every player other than Cam afraid to tough the ball. That is 100% lack of confidence. Now people were saying Pike was screaming for his players to go after the ball on the last in bounds play. You want to say Caleb going backwards instead of listening to Pike and attacking the ball was lack of focus? I will give you that one.

 

[ru8081]

The loss of Mag really hurt us. Why? 1) we lost his excellent defense and his offense was improving. 2) It forced us to replace him with either inexperienced players or players that shouldn't be on a B1G roster. 74 points should be enough to win with what our defense was before the Mag injury. 3) I think this ties into the fatigue factor as players like Cliff, Caleb, and Paul are trying pick up the slack and are mentally and physically tired. Also note that Caleb and Paul are not offensive juggernauts.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

RutgersAl is actually stating the obvious.

Look what was written about Paul in the past. He is a different player. Pop a tape in of the Maryland game and look at the intensity we played with defensively in the 1sr half. Other Teams don’t play like that.

 

[RuBird]

The loss of Mag really hurt us. Why? 1) we lost his excellent defense and his offense was improving. 2) It forced us to replace him with either inexperienced players or players that shouldn't be on a B1G roster. 74 points should be enough to win with what our defense was before the Mag injury. 3) I think this ties into the fatigue factor as players like Cliff, Caleb, and Paul are trying pick up the slack and are mentally and physically tired. Also note that Caleb and Paul are not offensive juggernauts.

Not doubting that Mag injury has hurt us but that has zero to do with player confidence at the end of the game. Ron and Geo always fought to take the last shot. Last night we had players scared they would be fouled and we have to attempt FTs. That is scary.

 

[RuBird]

If people are actually thinking we lost the game because we were tired then these players should never be on the team. Are you seriously telling me a college athlete can’t gut it out for another minute when Minny certainly could? All about lack of killer instinct/confidence

 

[NickKnight 1]

But not every team plays with the same amount of talent and quality depth. Paul is clearly fatigued, though he’ll never admit it. This is why his play is suffering.

I agree, but in addition I believe he is not 100%
healthy, possibly from pre season on. But is still making a ton of great passes that we are unable
to shoot into the basket.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Weak excuse for last nights gag job

 

[fluoxetine]

We’re not hitting our free throws, we’re turning the ball over, and we’re not playing sound basketball, things we need to do to win. No amount of hand wringing and pouting is going to change that. The starters are playing too many minutes and they’re exhausted when it comes to crunch time, and needing to close games out. Not getting much support off the bench. Our defensive intensity is lapsing when it’s needed most.

Nothing to do but pick ourselves up and finish as best we can.

We were 15/22 from the line 68.2% vs a season average of 70.9%. Last game we only turned the ball over four times!

Your general sentiment is fine but the details are lacking.

 

[fluoxetine]

Weak excuse for last nights gag job

Hey buddy this is a family board

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

If people are actually thinking we lost the game because we were tired then these players should never be on the team. Are you seriously telling me a college athlete can’t gut it out for another minute when Minny certainly could? All about lack of killer instinct/confidence

They choked. Humans choke. If you haven’t choked you haven’t been in a position to choke.

It is a lot easier to be the hunter then the hunted.

 

[ScarletDave]

What’s crazy is we’re .4 seconds from talking about getting the double bye a top-4 finish in the Big Ten two years running. And instead we’re talking about if we’re going to the NIT.

 

[rucoe89]

We’re not hitting our free throws, we’re turning the ball over, and we’re not playing sound basketball, things we need to do to win. No amount of hand wringing and pouting is going to change that. The starters are playing too many minutes and they’re exhausted when it comes to crunch time, and needing to close games out. Not getting much support off the bench. Our defensive intensity is lapsing when it’s needed most.

Nothing to do but pick ourselves up and finish as best we can.

It’s a function of coaching. Rode starters too long in games where you could have let the bench play more.

 

[zappaa]

What you don’t understand is that they physically can’t do what they want to do because they are tired and fatigued. It’s isn’t a question of effort or heart. They are doing their best. Need more depth, which is on the way. Minnesota got 23 bench points. We got 8.

Lol
Play an 18 year old Simpson and Palmqust and you’ll get some bench scoring.
Both had glue on their asses and Simpson is a good foul shooter