You never said anything positive about PT that wasn't a backhanded compliment. You started many threads to point out his shortcomings. Still enjoy your takes, as they always seem to be insightful, honest, and wrong. haha
Towles Is Transferring
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You never said anything positive about PT that wasn't a backhanded compliment. You started many threads to point out his shortcomings. Still enjoy your takes, as they always seem to be insightful, honest, and wrong. haha
I feel like you are trying to justify an entire season's worth of negative posts on PT. Just let it go. pT has moved on, and so should you.
That Patrick was a good QB.
The kid had arm talent. There is absolutely no disputing that.
I believe Drew is decently talented in his own right aswell.
It comes down to 1 thing.
The O-lines protection.
Way back in high school we had a majorly weak underclassman line.
What happened?? O-line broke and our backs were being met in backfield and QB was being hurried, sacked and throwing picks.
However a few years later through natural growth the same QB and A more mature and better line , we lead one of the states best offenses and averaged 46 points per game. On the way to a 15-0 state title.
Basically from someone who has played football, I cringed at the line this year. No QB be it Drew or Pat could really be expected to be a world beater with the protection the guys were providing.
The kid had arm talent. There is absolutely no disputing that.
I believe Drew is decently talented in his own right aswell.
It comes down to 1 thing.
The O-lines protection.
Way back in high school we had a majorly weak underclassman line.
What happened?? O-line broke and our backs were being met in backfield and QB was being hurried, sacked and throwing picks.
However a few years later through natural growth the same QB and A more mature and better line , we lead one of the states best offenses and averaged 46 points per game. On the way to a 15-0 state title.
Basically from someone who has played football, I cringed at the line this year. No QB be it Drew or Pat could really be expected to be a world beater with the protection the guys were providing.
Don't mean to bash the kid, and I wish him well, but I must say: the "Patty Ice" nickname was always SO stupid, because it did not fit the way he played At. All. Dude was completely the OPPOSITE of cool in the clutch, indeed about his biggest flaw was the way he got panic feet and made bad decisions when the pressure was on.
It's like if we nicknamed Tyler Ulis "The Dunk Machine", a nickname that has no actual connection to the way he plays.
Again another bush league post....wish Pat well and let it go......you don't have any information on what happened in the meeting today...
I think Barker, minus his less experience, was the better over all QB.
Towles last 7 games was something like, 1 td pass and 10 int?
But you also have to consider how much of that is on the O line and receivers? Even Barker was running for this life in Louisville game...
Towles last 7 games was something like, 1 td pass and 10 int?
But you also have to consider how much of that is on the O line and receivers? Even Barker was running for this life in Louisville game...
Well we will never know who was right and who was wrong since Towles has decided to transfer. One thing is for sure nobody can make the claim Towles was not given every chance to solidify his spot and lead Kentucky to victory.
BTW I never called for Towles to be benched and was given some very nice complimentary acknowledgements on this board when I praised Towles after the Mizzou game, so you are definitely wrong with you first sentence above. Try making you own point rather than misrepresenting mine.
I agree tntuk, when total blame is placed on one player no matter if he is a QB, punter, or RB, I will post against that attack. And there were plenty of attacks, just look back to last week when he didn't play. Plus the kid was accused of getting to start just because his grandfather was a politician in the past, how personal does this get? Dislike his interceptions and inconsistencies but don't attack his personal being its not right. And if fans do it to Drew next year, it still won't be right with him either.
I can turn my back just like PT did. Brother you need to bark up another tree. The kid flat out is quitting his teammates, if he was given the hook after a bad series or bad game than I could understand transferring. The man was given carte blanche as starter for 3 years, he gets pulled 1 game in that time and the last game, one day after a bitter loss. He goes above the team and says I am transferring. Good for him. He is great leader, he is a great QB, he is great teammate, he is a tough hombre. Is that what you want me to say.
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This will turn into one of those, "Be Careful What You Wished For, You May Get It" deal for the UK Fans. Come next season, we will hear the negative cries no matter who the QB is for UK. Followed by the rants wishing for Towels to be back at QB. Towels is a Kentucky kid, who wanted nothing best for UK.
The grad transfer rule gives kids like Towles so many options. He was not getting better here.
The fact of the matter is that UK had a problem at QB that was apparent throughout most of the season. Putting in Barker did little to change that, and now that Towles has transferred our problem gets worse. I hope Barker improves a lot in the offseason, but he really struggled in his appearances this year. People complained about Towles' accuracy issues (and I agree that those issues existed), but Barker also has an accuracy issue. Again, he's a freshman so there's obviously room for improvement, but I'm not confident that UK is going to be much better at QB next year.
Best of luck to Towles, though. Wherever he transfers to will probably be my second favorite team next year. He was a fantastic representative of our program and he clearly bled blue like a true Wildcat should. I really hope he has a great year.
Best of luck to Towles, though. Wherever he transfers to will probably be my second favorite team next year. He was a fantastic representative of our program and he clearly bled blue like a true Wildcat should. I really hope he has a great year.
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We are supposed to celebrate a kid quitting on his teammates and coaches, fan base that has supported him for 4 years. He gets replaced one game in a 3 year career as starter. I would cut his tail some slack if he would have done this during Christmas break, again a day after a brutal loss and another meltdown on his watch of not winning a meaningful game in October and November in 2 years. Yeah, we should celebrate him.
He does this during Christmas and New Years and most on here come wishing him well.
Just a shabby way to do it after yesterday and this season. I stand by all of my comments.
To be honest, I didn't like the way he constantly flipped his hair around. Having said that, I've never thought he was the biggest problem on the team. I've never felt like the play calling has ever helped to put in a position to be successful. As far as the nickname, I think the kid was just like a lot of others in the program who have been given nicknames when they haven't proven a thing. That is the biggest problem with the current culture of the program. It's big on hype and flash, like constant uniform changes, but horribly lacking in fundamentals and production. I honestly wish Towles would have been given a shot yesterday. I blame this staff more than I do Towles. I wish Towles well.
Just to show people you don't know what you are talking about. People like to dismiss others when they can't bend them to their will. All I can do is show how people are just flat out wrong. It's up to them to man up. I can't do that for them.
Towles played his best game as a Cat and lead UK to victory. He was on target all night and provided the the receivers opportunities to make plays. Great game by all.
Defense was solid all night.
Coaches gave the OL the help they needed when overmatched.
Great win!
1 Levibooty, Sep 27, 2015
Wrong. If he transfers last year he would've had to RS unless he went down. By transferring now after he graduates he can go on as a 5th year guy. This was his best option.
I hate the way things have turned out. I hate to see him leave, but since he can play immediately next year, probably the best for him.
Personally, I think Towles is a very good QB and has a chance to play on Sundays. (bash away) QB was not our problem this year. We had an o_line that couldn't give either QB much time. And then we had a bunch of Dropsy-receivers all year. Put Towles on a team like Alabama, and they would be talking about going to the NFL.
Beyond Towles, I am really worried about this team; about this coaching staff. Stoops is not going anywhere for another 1-2 years, regardless. And not sure any other coach (that UK could get), would do any better.
Sad days for UK football. Sad decades actually.
Personally, I think Towles is a very good QB and has a chance to play on Sundays. (bash away) QB was not our problem this year. We had an o_line that couldn't give either QB much time. And then we had a bunch of Dropsy-receivers all year. Put Towles on a team like Alabama, and they would be talking about going to the NFL.
Beyond Towles, I am really worried about this team; about this coaching staff. Stoops is not going anywhere for another 1-2 years, regardless. And not sure any other coach (that UK could get), would do any better.
Sad days for UK football. Sad decades actually.
Not an unexpected announcement. Don't blame the guy one bit - he's graduating and can potentially be a factor somewhere. That's better than riding the bench for his final season.
I find the timing most interesting. He wasted no time announcing this. I think this is very telling. Have a sinking feeling he wanted the heck out of this crumbling mess for reasons that weren't solely related to his starting spot. One has to wonder that if we're all able to see the ineptitude of this staff unfolding ourselves, what must some of these players be seeing, thinking? Do they really believe in this staff and their ability to improve and prepare the team or are they pondering the same questions we are?
I find the timing most interesting. He wasted no time announcing this. I think this is very telling. Have a sinking feeling he wanted the heck out of this crumbling mess for reasons that weren't solely related to his starting spot. One has to wonder that if we're all able to see the ineptitude of this staff unfolding ourselves, what must some of these players be seeing, thinking? Do they really believe in this staff and their ability to improve and prepare the team or are they pondering the same questions we are?
You must of posted that on the Paddock. Either way, good for you. I'm curious if you think we are better off with or without PT next season?
I'm betting PT is leaving because of lack of Fan Support.
I don't know if we are better off or worse. I have not seen a good sample of what Barker can do, he certainly doesn't have much experience. I do think the QB position was mishandled by our coaching staff. There certainly many examples of a different approach all across the country this year.
And no it wasn't the paddock. You just can't help yourself can you, even when proven wrong. You just throw stuff up against the wall to see what will stick.
You might wanna get your facts straight before trying to lecture at others. Towles only started for two years. His first year he was buried at the end of the bench and his second year he redshirted.
I have a 12 year old daughter whose favorite player was PT. I saw that he was transferring and was hesitant to tell her. When she heard the news, she jumped for joy knowing that he was going to get away from all this negativity. That's what some in this fanbase and team/coaching staff have become. I'll always be true blue, but I'm shaking my head.
The fan base certainly had a weird way of showing support for him when they boo'd him off the field numerous times during the season. Not trying to blame the fanbase for his decision, but I can't understand how people think it's acceptable to boo a college kid off the field like that.
I think the negativity around this program and fanbase is off putting. Hopefully we can turn it all around. I'd really like to see us get a dual threat quarterback and give that a shot. The pocket passer without a pocket ain't working for anybody.
I think he's leaving because the program is toxic right now - somehow got toxic in 6 or 8 weeks. Something. Is going on here, chaos and dysfunction rule.
Look, maybe if a) the program wasn't in disarray and b) we had a better performing line, then both Towles and Barker would've looked much better. Of course they would. But not enough. Neither kid is very accurate, and without that, the upside is limited. I don't care how much "arm talent" they have....
You could be right. If true, that would say alot about Stoops ability to control and lead a team. They sure played like 2 different teams. We were solid thru Auburn and Horrific afterwards.
Fan support really runs him off? You said he was a top draft pick for NFL how will he handle NY Jets or some other crap team with fans expecting a Super Bowl?
The 3 TD's and 10 picks vs SEC opponents this season along with crappy O-line has done more to make him rethink.
Agreed
I think it is despicable for a fan base to boo a college kid or to call him out on twitter or call him names. I do.
This is about timing and the fact that PT is looking like a loveable loser and it is alright for him to bail on his teammates, what about some of these other kids who did not get 3 years to start and play meaningful games.
No one will ever make me believe that this was an honorable decision at this time. It is bad, let the bad feeling of yesterday and season get over, first time he can throw a fit for being sat down than he does it. This staff was too loyal to him and gave him the keys. Disgusting IMO.
I think he could be a good QB with LSUs O-line and recievers. Add in LF and he could light it up with some play action deep balls
