We need $7M in NIL to turn this around Next Year

KnightTerrors

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NIL success will never be crowdfunded here under the current format. It’s corporate money or bust.

Or an outside the box partnership with a PE firm.
 

seansherm

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You think he was the stand out problem? Come on dude. Really? It was time for him to move on for sure, but let’s tell it like it was. the team was bad because of historically poor D and he was very far from one of the worst defensive players on the team.
I didn't say he was the standout problem, but having him as your so called 3rd best player (he wasn't in actuality even w the poor talent) is a big part of the problem. Would the season have been different if Mag and Cliff had come back, most definitely, we abandoned D and rebounding. None of that changes JWill being a bad fit next to Dylan. He does nothing to draw defenders out of the paint, which is where Dylan wanted to live.
 

rucoe89

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This year is shot and we will likely wind up with fewer than 15 Wins. Have to provide the support so we can Win next year.

$7K per fan x 1000 fans gets it done. Football has raised around $9M, which gives me hope. $7M in NIL + $3M in Revshare = $10M Total.

we can’t afford to spend less on NIL than Seton Hall. $10M in support gets us to competitive.
No, we do not. $7M with this coach and coaching staff is throwing good money after bad. Only a fool would make that investment. At this point, we need to let this coach and staff flush out or raise $25M to but out a coach and an absolutely atrocious staff
 
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-RUFAN4LIFE-

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No, we do not. $7M with this coach and coaching staff is throwing good money after bad. Only a fool would make that investment. At this point, we need to let this coach and staff flush out or raise $25M to but out a coach and an absolutely atrocious staff
I don't think you get it, the court jester is bringing up a scenario that no longer exists. You need to be a business to donate to RNIL and Keli is working on that. Anything that fans donate would go towards revenue sharing (tax deductible, unlike NIL, if that matters), which is still needed as increased donations helps cut the deficit.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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I didn't say he was the standout problem, but having him as your so called 3rd best player (he wasn't in actuality even w the poor talent) is a big part of the problem. Would the season have been different if Mag and Cliff had come back, most definitely, we abandoned D and rebounding. None of that changes JWill being a bad fit next to Dylan. He does nothing to draw defenders out of the paint, which is where Dylan wanted to live.

It didn’t matter. Dylan and Ace didn’t need complementary pieces to be great on offense. It was primarily the defense that slowed down the offense. Just mentally draining to have zero answer on that end letting guys penetrate the paint and score over and over. The problem wasn’t that J Will held Dylan back and he wasnt able to be even more spectacular than he already was at scoring. Probably the biggest disservice J Will did was the foul trouble he would get into trying to overcompensate for all the holes on D. He wasn’t Caleb and could not make up for multiple weak links. When he’d try, he would then pick up fouls and have to play on foul trouble which meant less aggressive on D.
 

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He wasn't leaving until he knew he could make much more $ than we offered. It was GTown, initially, not better and not playing for a NC, UConn came after which offered all those things. It was the $ that got him looking, thanks to his brother.
He was never considering Georgetown. The Georgetown interest woke him up to what his brother and his brother’s pro agent told him, that he was being badly undervalued. He went into the portal to see what the real interest was, and he got many offers, and ultimately decided between Miami and UConn, with Miami offering at least $100k more than UConn.
 
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Caliknight

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Al really needs to sell his C class and donate the proceeds. He’s not doing enough.
 

seansherm

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He was never considering Georgetown. The Georgetown interest woke him up to what his brother and his brother’s pro agent told him, that he was being badly undervalued. He went into the portal to see what the real interest was, and he got many offers, and ultimately decided between Miami and UConn, with Miami offering at least $100k more than UConn.
The key being to find his value
 

RU-Choppin-Ohio

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Dylan and Ace got Dylan and Ace to the draft, “we” had nothing to do with it. Spencer never gets drafted if he stays at RU. You clearly picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
Love how people make definitive statements about something that cannot be proven.

Prove It Killian Scott GIF by Dublin Murders
 

Nycrusupporter

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Love how people make definitive statements about something that cannot be proven.

Prove It Killian Scott GIF by Dublin Murders
While it is impossible to prove, when Cam finished his junior year with us, he certainly could have entered the draft if he though there was interest, but he didn’t because he wasn’t on any draft boards and knew he didn’t have a chance of going to the NBA. The next year, he was one of the few seniors to actually get drafted off his performance with UConn.
 
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RU-Choppin-Ohio

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While it is impossible to prove, when Cam finished his junior year with us, he certainly could have entered the draft if he though there was interest, but he didn’t because he wasn’t on any draft boards and knew he didn’t have a chance of going to the NBA. The next year, he was one of the few seniors to actually get drafted off his performance with UConn.
He didn't leave after his junior year because the $400k or more he made in college is more than any 2nd round G League player would make. The same scenario is playing out with players staying 5 or 6 years in college.

And if he stayed at Rutgers scoring another 14 PG and shooting another 43% on Threes against high level B1G competition scouts would notice because they look everywhere for shooters.

He left for money, which is why he was headed to Georgetown until UConn entered the picture with more money.
 
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He didn't leave after his junior year because the $400k or more he made in college is more than any 2nd round G League player would make. The same scenario is playing out with players staying 5 or 6 years in college.

And if he stayed at Rutgers scoring another 14 PG and shooting another 43% against high level B1G competition scouts would notice they look everywhere for shooters.
He had no interest even as a free agent after his junior year, he would have never seen the G-league. NBA scouts saw how he performed in UConn’s complex motion offense, which is similar to what many NBA teams run, along without the strong endorsement of Dan Hurley, who is one of the few coaches respected in NBA circles, so at least one team decided he was worth a draft pick. Every year you stay in college raises the bar for what NBA scouts need to see to get drafted, being a senior required serious overperformance for anyone to even look at him.
 
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RU-Choppin-Ohio

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He had no interest even as a free agent after his junior year, he would have never seen the G-league. NBA scouts saw how he performed in UConn’s complex motion offense, which is similar to what many NBA teams run, along without the strong endorsement of Dan Hurley, who is one of the few coaches respected in NBA circles, so at least one team decided he was worth a draft pick. Every year you stay in college raises the bar for what NBA scouts need to see to get drafted, being a senior required serious overperformance for anyone to even look at him.
Complex motion offenses in the NBA? Come on.

It's iso and picks and passing to a guy standing at the 3 point line.
 

scarletrat99

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at almost any other P4 school that values winning, RU would have done more to support the golden parachute of 2 top 5 draft picks playing at same time, and...if it didn't work, as it failed miserably for RU last season because of the team around Harper and Bailey, the coach would have been fired the day after season was over.

Now some fans think addressing NIL will somehow fix Pike's problems? Nope, given Pike's track record over the past years, that is throwing good money after bad. He can't be allowed to shop for the groceries. He and his MAAC level staff clearly can't cook.
 

AreYouNUTS

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Al, once again asking the same 1000 people to donate more and more money than they’ve been donating for the last 40 years. You are something else.

Yet another “hey look at me look at me look at me” post from the guy who doesn’t understand he’s preaching to the choir….

….You’re so clueless, as to the realities of our giving situation at this university as a whole, it’s mind-boggling. Your head is stuck so far up your *** that you couldn’t stick it in the sand if you tried.
 
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Scarlet Shack

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The reality is …the whisper number for a competitive power 5 roster is $10
Million …of which $3-$3.5
Comes from revenue sharing

We can be critical of Pike and staff on coaching and program issues (and I find myself being more and more annoyed with how things are being run than usual)…..but reality is …without those resources , ANY coach is going to be handicapped without what our peers are spending on their rosters ….

this need to get fixed for Pike pronto …. iand if pike doesn’t get it done , the next staff needs thsr support at the minimum. As well
 
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Al, once again asking the same 1000 people to donate more and more money than they’ve been donating for the last 40 years. You are something else.

Yet another “hey look at me look at me look at me” post from the guy who doesn’t understand he’s preaching to the choir….

….You’re so clueless, as to the realities of our giving situation at this university as a whole, it’s mind-boggling. Your head is stuck so far up your *** that you couldn’t stick it in the sand if you tried.
Go back to bed.

We either raise $7M and give the team a chance to win or live through yet another ****** season next year. I didn’t ask anyone for anything. I’m merely stated a need and reality of our situation. People either respond or they don’t respond. It is what it is.
 
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The reality is …the whisper number for a competitive power 5 roster is $10
Million …of which $3-$3.5
Comes from revenue sharing

We can be critical of Pike and staff on coaching and program issues (and I find myself being more and more annoyed with how things are being run than usual)…..but reality is …without those resources , ANY coach is going to be handicapped without what our peers are spending on their rosters ….

this need to get fixed for Pike pronto …. iand if pike doesn’t get it done , the next staff needs thsr support at the minimum. As well
This is how i came up with the $7M number.
$10M -$3M =$7 M

The first thing any prospective staff is going to ask is what is the NIL pool. No one wants hear you’re going to raise the money. We might as well give the current coach the resources to succeed, and if he doesn’t get the job done, we find someone else.
 

AreYouNUTS

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Go back to bed.

We either raise $7M and give the team a chance to win or live through yet another ****** season next year. I didn’t ask anyone for anything. I’m merely stated a need and reality of our situation. People either respond or they don’t respond. It is what it is.
“ go back to bed?”

I don’t even know what the **** that means dude.
 
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at almost any other P4 school that values winning, RU would have done more to support the golden parachute of 2 top 5 draft picks playing at same time, and...if it didn't work, as it failed miserably for RU last season because of the team around Harper and Bailey, the coach would have been fired the day after season was over.

Now some fans think addressing NIL will somehow fix Pike's problems? Nope, given Pike's track record over the past years, that is throwing good money after bad. He can't be allowed to shop for the groceries. He and his MAAC level staff clearly can't cook.
This was the biggest failure in Rutgers Basketball history, not supporting a worthy supporting cast for the Big 2. Bring in the type of transfer class that Maryland brought in, and we’re making a deep run into the tournament.

Pike built this program once, he can rebuild it. This year, we’re building the foundation, so we’re going to bottom out. Next year we’ll have a chance to be decent if we can get the appropriate support.
 
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Caliknight

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Go back to bed.

We either raise $7M and give the team a chance to win or live through yet another ****** season next year. I didn’t ask anyone for anything. I’m merely stated a need and reality of our situation. People either respond or they don’t respond. It is what it is.
No one responds positively to you. So if that’s your goal you’re failing miserably.
 
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KnightTerrors

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The reality is …the whisper number for a competitive power 5 roster is $10
Million …of which $3-$3.5
Comes from revenue sharing

We can be critical of Pike and staff on coaching and program issues (and I find myself being more and more annoyed with how things are being run than usual)…..but reality is …without those resources , ANY coach is going to be handicapped without what our peers are spending on their rosters ….

this need to get fixed for Pike pronto …. iand if pike doesn’t get it done , the next staff needs thsr support at the minimum. As well
This is the sad reality. Pike absolutely has a ton to answer for and I completely understand wanting to move on from him. But unless the budget changes dramatically no one will win here.

Michigan is paying Lendeborg $3.5M which is our entire budget. We’re in bidding wars overpaying for guys that have mid major (or worse) talent. There is no path for any coach without atleast double the current budget.
 
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No one responds positively to you. So if that’s your goal you’re failing miserably.
I’m not here to be popular. I’m here to deliver cold hard truths, that many will find difficult to accept.
Most of this fanbase does the minimum when other fanbases have boosters who step up. This is why we have a non-competitive basketball team.

Those who can, have to step up. It’s that simple. Otherwise we will have to content ourselves with a basketball team that stinks.

Basketball NCAA Success does not come cheap, especially now. We’re in a conference that spends a ton on basketball success. We’re either keep up or get left behind. That’s the bottomline.
 
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This is the sad reality. Pike absolutely has a ton to answer for and I completely understand wanting to move on from him. But unless the budget changes dramatically no one will win here.

Michigan is paying Lendeborg $3.5M which is our entire budget. We’re in bidding wars overpaying for guys that have mid major (or worse) talent. There is no path for any coach without atleast double the current budget.
There’s no path to success without more money. It looks like football will have enough to be competitive. Need the same for basketball.