Dylan and Ace got Dylan and Ace to the draft, “we” had nothing to do with it. Spencer never gets drafted if he stays at RU. You clearly picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
We need $7M in NIL to turn this around Next Year
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Most around here thought Jwill was a great fit next to Dylan and didn't want to hear otherwise. Of course, most here thought JWill was good initially.
The great thing if I give $7k to NiL- maybe we can buy a couple of superstar NBA lottery picks and we know that this staff will know how to make that work.
Sorry but that's wrong. It was well documented when he was leaving that we matched what he was being paid and he still left without hesitation. I recall reading that he actually didn't even give us a chance to offer more...the kid simply wanted out. Money wasn't irrelevant, obviously, but he saw that the program wasn't making him better so he wanted to go somewhere that will to ultimately end up in the pros which he did. It was a smart move.
You don't have to look far to see that the program has not grown under Pike. And I really like pike. I think as a person he's a great representative for the University. However, missed free throws, missed layups, being out rebounded...it's been happening for years. It's almost mystifying how no team has even been great at free throws under Pike. We lucked out during the Baker, Harper and McConnell era. Once they left we have done nothing but regress. Spencer saw this up close, took the check, and ran to a place where he could grow as a player.
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Wrong. We couldn't match anything above what we had already offered, which if I recall was $50K. He was told that and when firat offer was over double that it was done.
You sure? The ONLY reason? Not to play on a better team (mission accomplished)? Not to win a NC (mission accomplished)? Not to help improve his skills, better his exposure and make it onto a NBA roster (mission accomplished)?
Hopefully he didn't take notes from CViv who was a check collector over the last many years of her contract.
Michigan fans got cheater coaches and a whacked out, criminal, womanizer coach Al. But Yay!!! They won a championship. They must feel so good about themselves.
Considering it was Georgetown that got him to enter the portal, yes it was all about the dinero. The fact that better teams came in afterwards was icy on the cake. Winning a natty in the process was the cherry on top for his college career.
He wasn't leaving until he knew he could make much more $ than we offered. It was GTown, initially, not better and not playing for a NC, UConn came after which offered all those things. It was the $ that got him looking, thanks to his brother.
We had a cheating AD and are still horrible. They win we don’t. Cheating and criminals at both schools
Pike had his 7mm + and embarrassed himself and the school. Now he has a talentless roster.
We need money for new coaches first
No "we" didn't.
Dylan and Ace were projected Top 5 picks before they stepped foot on campus for a visit.
Citing the #2 and #3 recruits as an "eye for talent" is a little much.
I think Pike should recruit 2027 #1 recruit C.J. Rosser.
Look! I have an eye for talent now.
What about Griffiths, Chol, Simpson, Woolfolk, Jalen Miller?
The irony of "This environment isn't good for Pike. He needs 3 years to develop guys" is that Pike has run out every failed recruit he's gotten.
Pike is lucky to have the transfer portal.
No recruits have left for more money. They have all left because they weren't good.
Pike hasnt gotten a chance to develop "his guys" because they transfer out to lower programs.
Not one recruit in the last 4 years has transfered up to better programs for more money - other than Lathan who many said was a bad fit anyway because of his defense.
So you moved on from football.
You just refuse to accept many of these schools are getting multi million dollar gifts from 1 individual. For example Texas, SMU, Indiana, OSU have all received billion dollar plus donations from 1 person. MSU $400 million, KU $300 million, Illinois $100 million.
Instead of continually trying to find ways that'll never work and would turn the regular folk away, your job should be to make billions then give a good percentage to RU
He left for money, accountability, and a chance to win. Rutgers offered none of that. Georgetown had some of it and then UConn checked all the boxes
Literally nobody cares about what happened at Michigan with the alleged cheating that took place. Not a single person other than some fans at schools like us that will never be in that position so we point and say “well at least that’s not us”
they won the natty, it’s never going to get taken away, harbaugh has been a great coach everywhere he’s gone
we would dream of ever having a coach of his caliber come here in any sport
What exactly did 'we' do to get Ace and Dylan to the draft? If anything, Pike hurt their draft prospects. This is clown level stuff
.We had a whale last year and Steve harpooned him.
We tried to warn everyone.
Even when they were called the "best 2 man backcourt in the B1G".
Rutgers basketball has ‘best 2-man backcourt’ in Big Ten, analyst says
https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/2024/07/rutgers-has-best-2-man-backcourt-in-big-ten-analyst-says.html
There's one across the street that happens to be the 20th largest company in the world.
You just put 23% FG Lino Mark in the same statement with Cam, Dylan, and Ace.
everyone is forgetting "accountability" from the cheerleader clapper in charge. The guy's a woos of a coach and doesn't defend his team on the court. 2 guys get in ashuffle and Pike benches his while the other coach leaves the player in. Happened again last game. Baseline happy clappy turns and talks to bench players who don't even look at him because they know he's not a real motivational coach.
lol.."I like Pike" buttons to captain Ahab. brilliant. Now I know why the students are throwing that inflatable mammal around behind the basket.
That thread might have been the kindest to JWill I ever wasWe tried to warn everyone.
Even when they were called the "best 2 man backcourt in the B1G".
Rutgers basketball has ‘best 2-man backcourt’ in Big Ten, analyst says
https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/2024/07/rutgers-has-best-2-man-backcourt-in-big-ten-analyst-says.htmlwww.on3.com
Dylan and Ace were going to be lottery picks before they ever stepped foot on our campus...
Figures 1.5 mil each for Dylan and Ace which couldn’t be spent any where else and another million spread around the rest of the team? Plus Vegas
He wasn’t a big help but having J Will on the team was far from the biggest issue. The main problems order. 1) we needed a servicable defensive big man (Ogbole closer to that this year - he wasn’t last year and played through injuries). Lathan played no defense at all. Dortch was a frosh. We had zero rim protection. 2) we did NOT need high volume scoring back court players who were weak on D or sharp shooting wings who played no D. We brought in a collection of them in Acuff, Dercack and PJ. Replace them with players like Caleb or Mag as lowerclassmen (even if on midmajor teams) - modest stats but D focused kids. different results for sure.
You think he was the stand out problem? Come on dude. Really? It was time for him to move on for sure, but let’s tell it like it was. the team was bad because of historically poor D and he was very far from one of the worst defensive players on the team.
The problem is Pike was counting on him to be a HUGE impact player
@ Al - you really need to stop. Rutgers fans aren’t simply donating 7M to NIL. Full stop. College sport in NJ isn’t religion the way it is at the blue bloods and we don’t have a sugar daddy ready to step up any time soon. So enough of that. It’s not a realistic solution.
In NJ - money has to somehow be raised by convincing state residents (not the small subset of die hard fans but the casual and potential followers of RU sport) to buy products or services they’d be likely pay for anyway but the connection to RU adds value.
In my opinion, this should start by targeting youth sports. Rutgers should be hosting competitive events - lots of them, for every sport across a multitude of age groups - during the offseason of each respective sport. With regional rounds held at host high school sites across the state. A couple players on the team show up and participate in hosting. Whether it’s 3v3 tournaments for basketball, shooting contests, 5 v 5 whatever - the point would be - entry fee to compete locally to move on to a final round held at Rutgers. If “round 1” qualifiers were at local high schools - there would be a ton of interest and NJ parents would 100% pay for their kids to enter that stuff run by a couple players or coaches associated with the team. And the parents would pay to watch it - just like they pay the mandatory $5 fee to cram into the stands for AAU games. These are the types of things that need to happen to build engagement with NJ communities and start to raise money. You can run raffles and such at these types of events too to raise more money.
The collectives had the right idea, but even there, we just don’t have enough of a die hard population that’s going to pay to attend pure social events where RU players are making appearances. Especially not those who live far away in north state. Needs to be convenient.
In NJ - money has to somehow be raised by convincing state residents (not the small subset of die hard fans but the casual and potential followers of RU sport) to buy products or services they’d be likely pay for anyway but the connection to RU adds value.
In my opinion, this should start by targeting youth sports. Rutgers should be hosting competitive events - lots of them, for every sport across a multitude of age groups - during the offseason of each respective sport. With regional rounds held at host high school sites across the state. A couple players on the team show up and participate in hosting. Whether it’s 3v3 tournaments for basketball, shooting contests, 5 v 5 whatever - the point would be - entry fee to compete locally to move on to a final round held at Rutgers. If “round 1” qualifiers were at local high schools - there would be a ton of interest and NJ parents would 100% pay for their kids to enter that stuff run by a couple players or coaches associated with the team. And the parents would pay to watch it - just like they pay the mandatory $5 fee to cram into the stands for AAU games. These are the types of things that need to happen to build engagement with NJ communities and start to raise money. You can run raffles and such at these types of events too to raise more money.
The collectives had the right idea, but even there, we just don’t have enough of a die hard population that’s going to pay to attend pure social events where RU players are making appearances. Especially not those who live far away in north state. Needs to be convenient.
Rephrase a little - the problem was Pike thought he needed Dylan and Ace to be surrounded by impact players. He didn’t. Well at least not to just make the NCAAs. Clearly he was shooting higher than that but the problem was without servicable D he had nothing. That needed to be top priority. J Will brought that - he just didn’t bring the ability to compensate for others shortcomings the way a kid like Caleb did (when he tried he ended up in foul trouble).
Dylan and Ace were 4mm the rest of the squad was just under 3mm plus Vegas.
He had his shot and failed miserably