What Raise does Schiano deserve if he wins 6 Games??

Section124

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when a coach has fewer than 4 years remaining on his deal, it becomes more difficult to recruit. Recruits want to see stability.
What ever happened to extending 2+ years out? Doing so now would be ridiculous. Recruits prefer an offense they can be productive in. Greg needs to show that first. Defense is on the right track. Extending now just means we will have more years to pay Greg when he’s fired (if offense is a disaster this year). I personally don’t expect Hobbs to be as patient (since he didn’t prefer Greg in the first place).
 
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Section124

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I swear Al is just trolling the board to justify his free subscription. Makes me stupid for falling for it.
 
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brgRC90

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What ever happened to extending 2+ years out? Doing so now would be ridiculous. Recruits prefer an offense they can be productive in. Greg needs to show that first. Defense is on the right track. Extending now just means we will have more years to pay Greg when he’s fired (if offense is a disaster this year). I personally don’t expect Hobbs to be as patient (since he didn’t prefer Greg in the first place).
My opinion of him would drop a lot if he gave a raise or extension. A coach with 4 years left on his contract isn't going anywhere unless he wins really big.
 
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wheezer

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There are results. We should have a close to full stadium Sunday.
let me put it to you this way

If you had told me before hand that it would take these many years to get to .500 with Greg, I would have been disappointed..... and we haven't done it yet

if he were to get us there this year, I would find it adequate. nothing to write home about

I just don't think you start throwing money at him, especially if the .500 record is propped up by
winning mostly the out of conference games.....
 

Shelby65

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Look at our ‘24 recruiting class and you will see the caliber of kids that will turn things around. These kids chose to come to Schiano’s losing program and will turn it around.
Yes Fieldhouse Al…same song every year. But just look at our xxxx Recruiting class !!! How many stick after another losing season? 2. How many play offense ?
 

Colbert17!

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Lol. Plenty of great coaches are terrible judges of coaching talent. As a RU fan, you should know this well

Greg sucks, change my mind, I'll listen
Not trying to change anyone's mind, just pointing out something. For the record, I don't think he's a GREAT coach but he's also not a D3 level coach.
 

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Not trying to change anyone's mind, just pointing out something. For the record, I don't think he's a GREAT coach but he's also not a D3 level coach.
You are correct he’s not a D3 coach. Since you are a baseball guy as well, Greg is like Buck Showalter. He can build a program but you need another to get you over the top. And I like Buck and Greg but know their limitations. I have higher aspirations for this program than just making bowl games. It’s a pipe dream I know but also I know Greg can’t get us more than respectable. I will be more than happy to eat crow on that but history is on my side.
 
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What do you mean will be asking. The agent has been asking since last season. He’s very likely going to get it, as long as the minimum performance threshold is realized. All that remains to be finalized is the details.
He’s hasn’t gotten it because he hasn’t earned it. He needs more than 6 wins to get an extension. He has four years left and no one wants him. He’s not in danger of leaving at all. That’s the only reason you give a coach who hasn’t achieved anything an extension at this point. And even that is dumb.

Let it play out. The Schiano sycophants are out of control.
 

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We have some fans with very low expectations and standards for whom 6 wins is almost as good as 12.
6-6 is 6-3 against teams not called OSU, Michigan and PSU. FWIW PSU has probably the best backfield talent on O that they’ve ever had… And I mean ever.
 

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What do you mean will be asking. The agent has been asking since last season. He’s very likely going to get it, as long as the minimum performance threshold is realized. All that remains to be finalized is the details.

What is "minimum performance threshold"?

In another thread someone said we should "hammer" 5 teams.
Is 5 wins the minimum threshold for success this year then?

Should we expect any wins that aren't "hammer" games?
 

Jtung230

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What is "minimum performance threshold"?

In another thread someone said we should "hammer" 5 teams.
Is 5 wins the minimum threshold for success this year then?

Should we expect any wins that aren't "hammer" games?
It’s bad wins and ugly losses
 

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They could play very well and still finish 6-6. Currently, five opponents are ranked...and only the OSU game is at home.
They haven't played a single game yet and already people are giving Schiano credit for a 6 - 6 season, and acting like it's a great accomplishment. Maybe we should see what happens. But whatever happens 6-6 is not reason for a raise for the love of God, for a program bleeding red ink with a coach in no danger of leaving.
 

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Not trying to change anyone's mind, just pointing out something. For the record, I don't think he's a GREAT coach but he's also not a D3 level coach.
Colby - the game is the same D1,2,3. What differentiates coaches across that spectrum isn’t competence. It’s opportunity and/or aspiration.

Brian Kelly started D2, Leipold started D3. You think because Schiano coaches D1 and also did in the NFL he’s a better coach than coaches at lower levels ?

I’m not suggesting he’s inferior or superior than D2 or D3. I’m saying that level is irrelevant in judging ability.

Had one of Schiano’s first jobs been at a lower level and not at PSU (after RU) there’s a good chance he never would have gotten very far, independent of his competence.
 
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Jtung230

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They haven't played a single game yet and already people are giving Schiano credit for a 6 - 6 season, and acting like it's a great accomplishment. Maybe we should see what happens. But whatever happens 6-6 is not reason for a raise for the love of God, for a program bleeding red ink with a coach in no danger of leaving.
Can’t give him credit for something he hasn’t done. Even if he does it still no credit, LOL
 
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Won one game in the B10 last year with many blow outs. He is a joke and so is OP stop being delusional. Get some medication.
 
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Shelby65

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Won one game in the B10 last year with many blow outs. He is a joke and so is OP stop being delusional. Get some medication.
Need 14 more years to judge him, unless the NFL comes calling again. I heard Andy Reid will retire soon and Schiano the likely replacement. Makes sense: one great offensive mind followed by another. Mahomes would avg 500 yards a game passing and Pacheco avg 250 on the ground with Schiano in charge.
 

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They haven't played a single game yet and already people are giving Schiano credit for a 6 - 6 season, and acting like it's a great accomplishment. Maybe we should see what happens. But whatever happens 6-6 is not reason for a raise for the love of God, for a program bleeding red ink with a coach in no danger of leaving.
 

njknightsfan

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Are we now going to be rewarding mediocre performance.

Greg wins 6, they will give him an extension of at least a couple of years. Question is, what kind of raise would he deserve?

I think a bump to $6.1M, which is the same amount Marylands Coach makes is reasonable.
 

Branchrentals

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GS is a good coach. Seems like a great person.

Think he would be better off at a lower level. He does not have the X and O or game day adjustment chops for this level.
 
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WOW! 🤦🏻‍♂️

Again NO ONE is coming after GS…he has NO leverage and RU has no reason to extend him or even worse, give him a completely undeserved raise.

All extending him does at this point is make a buy out pricier.

It would be the Rutgers-iest move to do this.

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let me put it to you this way

If you had told me before hand that it would take these many years to get to .500 with Greg, I would have been disappointed..... and we haven't done it yet

if he were to get us there this year, I would find it adequate. nothing to write home about

I just don't think you start throwing money at him, especially if the .500 record is propped up by
winning mostly the out of conference games.....
It took a full 5 years the first time. Not sure why you would expect more progress sooner, especially when the competition is so much more difficult. Yes, we have to rely on out of conference games to get to .500, because we don’t have enough support to challenge OSU, PSU, and UM.
 

wheezer

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It took a full 5 years the first time. Not sure why you would expect more progress sooner, especially when the competition is so much more difficult. Yes, we have to rely on out of conference games to get to .500, because we don’t have enough support to challenge OSU, PSU, and UM.
You asked about a raise

We can say that he had not exceeded expectations, so his compensation is in line with his results
And a 6-6 record now is not enough of a result to enhance his pay
 

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It took a full 5 years the first time. Not sure why you would expect more progress sooner, especially when the competition is so much more difficult. Yes, we have to rely on out of conference games to get to .500, because we don’t have enough support to challenge OSU, PSU, and UM.
It took 5 years in a way shittier league…which we never won.
 
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Shelby65

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‘looking like 6 years’ for what Fieldhouse Al ? In 3 years you will spew new ********. I know it, you know it and so does everyone else here.

Funny thing is, common perception of you wont change in 3, 5 or 20 years because it cant get any lower than it is now. in that sense, your asinine opinions are free. see what i did there?

Fieldhouse Al is forever pathetic.
 
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RUTGERS95

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Yes, when you are the lowest paid. He should be rewarded by not being paid the lowest in the league
This isn't a union so no one gives a **** what other people are being paid. hes paid what his perceived worth is and right now hes overpaid
 

Colbert17!

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You are correct he’s not a D3 coach. Since you are a baseball guy as well, Greg is like Buck Showalter. He can build a program but you need another to get you over the top. And I like Buck and Greg but know their limitations. I have higher aspirations for this program than just making bowl games. It’s a pipe dream I know but also I know Greg can’t get us more than respectable. I will be more than happy to eat crow on that but history is on my side.
Good comparison.
 

RUTGERS95

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Colby - the game is the same D1,2,3. What differentiates coaches across that spectrum isn’t competence. It’s opportunity and/or aspiration.

Brian Kelly started D2, Leipold started D3. You think because Schiano coaches D1 and also did in the NFL he’s a better coach than coaches at lower levels ?

I’m not suggesting he’s inferior or superior than D2 or D3. I’m saying that level is irrelevant in judging ability.

Had one of Schiano’s first jobs been at a lower level and not at PSU (after RU) there’s a good chance he never would have gotten very far, independent of his competence.
Agree

As an aside, Greg would make a great AD
 

Knight Shift

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We’ll see what the results are and what Hobbs decides.
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