What Raise does Schiano deserve if he wins 6 Games??
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He hasn't raised the bar, not yet anyway. His fans have.love that moving target. I like the fact GS has raised the bar. 8 wins and it’s a we’ll see approach
Plenty of schools would go for other options…he’d need sustained success to suddenly be on short lists…
The stadium staying full for the whole game instead of half of the fans leaving in disgust early in the third quarter would be a sign of progress.
actually the bar has been raised by the instant gratification crowd.
Building a program takes time sometimes at schools with poor reputations ,
but there are those that want it now and claim it can be done faster
refusing to face the fact building some programs are not an easy thging to do within 3 years.
Even if they made a bowl in year 2.
But every HC faces that when part of the fanbase didn't want that HC to be hired
Schiano faces that problem and needs to prove he can do in the G2 era what he did as G1
"Instant gratification." 4 years is instant if you're a redwood. It's long enough for freshmen to play their entire career.
this 2023 is the beginning of 4th year log that in your memory.
Instant gratification doesn't take into account how the program has been precived as a loser and expects to see an Alabama type program quickly and refuses to look for positives starting to show throug the losing cracks.
Year 2 was a positive , year3 regressed.
Year 4 is when more competitiveness needs to show more in order for fanbase to feel progress is being made
PRIME says hi.
BTW, I'm not dissing Greg. I like him a lot as a coach. Just repeating don't think there will be a high demand for him that would justify a raise when he has a guaranteed $16 million after this year.
"Expects to see an Alabama type program quickly." Where in the name of God do you see anyone remotely expecting this?? I see people wishing we had a functional offense after 4 years, a team that doesn't get obliterated every single time it plays Ohio State, Penn State et al. Our fans are actually reasonable. It's Schiano's Excuse Makers that are unreasonable. You seriously need to stand down. Your perceptions of what people want are extremely warped.
Exactly. All I want is a functional offense. Still waiting. Better be this year.
Remember GS 1st game back. I’m not sure how everyone is determining there won’t be demand if he wins 6 or more games.
It would be the worst think the AD could do, he can’t go back to the NFL as HC. He has a tremendous contract for the amount of interest that was surrounding him. Let him fulfill this contract then see where you go.
Remember GS 1st game back. I’m not sure how everyone is determining there won’t be demand if he wins 6 or more games.
I think he means Greg beat MSU 38-27. It did not go so great after that, especially the next 2 seasons.
People feting Prime (including me, the hypocrite!!) need to pump the brakes.
No one at any time in the P5 gets 4+ years to turn a program into a decent team- meaning- a winner. We sit in a place and conference that should allow it even quicker.
I have seen G5 teams doing better.
Ash- drove us to the ground. Greg came in and his name alone wiped out Ash. The AD then gave him the money for coaches/facilities- more than what many coaches get.
Greg is the name in NJ football- it should have meant more to HS coaches but it hasn't. NIL has made it harder but he has the resources at this point to show a turn. That is what I look for- show the turn.
I have seen G5 teams doing better.
Ash- drove us to the ground. Greg came in and his name alone wiped out Ash. The AD then gave him the money for coaches/facilities- more than what many coaches get.
Greg is the name in NJ football- it should have meant more to HS coaches but it hasn't. NIL has made it harder but he has the resources at this point to show a turn. That is what I look for- show the turn.
Wow I was hoping for a better explanation.
If you have to go back to the first game for a high water mark there’s an issue. And I’m not sure anyone outside of people on this board remember or care about that win.
Not sure how Colorado will fair rest of the season. TCU did not look good. And I’m not sure Colorado has depth. We shall see.
actually you're more than likly right about the interest he was receiving from P-5 programs as their HC and maYby most G-5s
But I also feel RU wasn't getting top of line candidates interested in the job with the salary and support being offered
It was two unwanteds seeing they were the best option for each and giving and receiving a discount rate because neither could do no better.
I firmy believe Greg wasn't the best available candidate, but was the best RU could get with what they were offering and how bad the program was.
yes,
even the way Rutgers has been looked on as a loser most of it's non Sciano time, you feel as bad as the program he inherited from Ash, how the program probably was looked at as a place to stay away from by the better HS talent
you still feel Schiano's 3 years not winning is showing he isn't up to building a winner .
Do you feel my thinking the 5-7 record in his 2nd year shows he can get it done and the regression in 3rd year might just bot be proof of incompetence.
Lat go-round the 4th year shown progress and that's what I expect now.
Some think I'm whistling in the wind thinking that .
Do you feel Schiano's 3rd year should have vbeen a winning one, or am I taking what you posted the wrong way
It is a good question. And I never expected GS to turn things around day 1. On the other hand- until Ash crash and burned tge program, I didn’t want GS back but when hired, he was a great choice and it also seemed he became better.
My concern- I see the defense becoming a very good B1G defense but see the offense as one that would struggle in the AAC and Greg’s hand all over it.
He brought in 2 very high profile guys on offense this year- he allows them to do their job or he stamps it again.
That is what I am watching for- growth from Greg.
I think he did find one in AJ Surace. Yes, it is a hopeful speculation at this point, but I really like this kid.
I don’t believe he deserves a raise even if we win 6 games. We were only 1-8 in the Big last year. We must get over .600 in the Big games. Four million is a lot and 16 million over all four remaining years. We need to show some real improvement. We got beat to a pulp in the Big. games last season.