Will Mulder play?

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I think he will see some meaningful minutes, due to our lack of depth at the guard spots. After a year in Cal's system he could become a contributor. Hawkins cant really backup 3 guards by himself. I know Willis and Gabriel will play some 3 but still.
 

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I think he will see some meaningful minutes, due to our lack of depth at the guard spots. After a year in Cal's system he could become a contributor. Hawkins cant really backup 3 guards by himself. I know Willis and Gabriel will play some 3 but still.

I think the answer to that ? is yes, He has the athletic and shooting ability and knows this his last year to get things done.I know you can't go by measurables from the Combine but the kid has some serious athleticism. Take a look at his numbers.
 

caneintally

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He didn't play last year due to D and that is as clear as day to anyone who watched him . If he can D it up better he will play . If not Hawkins will be the bench guard as we don't need 5 of them as we have too many studs at the 3-5 spots.
 

Bungalow Bill

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#5 guard. If Dom stays healthy I don't expect him to play much. Wouldn't be the 1st time I was wrong.
 

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Isn't the guard situation the same this year as last year and he still didn't play much. He'll even when Hawk got hurt he didn't play much, with that said, it all depends on how much of a drop there is when Monk and Fox come out. If the drop is big then you just can't play Mulder. That's the key to getting time, when you come in can our team sustain its momentum or get worse
 

wildcatdon

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Cal is very anal when it comes to playing guys that are not four star or five star if he has a roster of those type guys, even if depth might be a bit shallow. Mulder was shooting it good last night and I would like to see him step up and play well so that Cal has to play him. helps to have guys not wearing down come tournament time.
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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Isn't the guard situation the same this year as last year and he still didn't play much. He'll even when Hawk got hurt he didn't play much, with that said, it all depends on how much of a drop there is when Monk and Fox come out. If the drop is big then you just can't play Mulder. That's the key to getting time, when you come in can our team sustain its momentum or get worse

Even if Fox, Briscoe, and Monk play the 104 minutes that Ulis/Murray/Briscoe combined for last year (which is about 35 minutes/game each), there's still about 15-20 minutes a game to go to Mulder/Hawkins. Matthews played over 10 minutes/game last year, and now he is gone. Mulder can logically compete for those minutes without really taking anything away from Ulis/Murray/Briscoe.
 

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Yeah it's possible. Also posssible that Briscoe, Monk, Fox, Hawkins, Wenyen, Willis get all the minutes available at the 1,2,3 especially since Cal said he's going with a 8 man rotation

Even if Fox, Briscoe, and Monk play the 104 minutes that Ulis/Murray/Briscoe combined for last year (which is about 35 minutes/game each), there's still about 15-20 minutes a game to go to Mulder/Hawkins. Matthews played over 10 minutes/game last year, and now he is gone. Mulder can logically compete for those minutes without really taking anything away from Ulis/Murray/Briscoe.
 

Aike

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I'm interested to see who is getting more minutes in March between Humphries and SKJ.
 

anon1763419335

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I'm interested to see who is getting more minutes in March between Humphries and SKJ.

good call. skj has more upside. and honestly...didnt see much out of humphries last night. supposed to be a good shooter but never seems to make any.
 
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Poetax

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Mulder only has to make shots and play D, to play any minutes this year. It's really in his hands especially if it does take some time for us to be a better shooting team later.
 
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anon1763419335

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Mulder only has to make shots and play D, to play any minutes this year. It's really in his hands especially if it does take some time for us to be a better shooting team later.

idk....i mean he can play below average defense and i'm fine getting him minutes. we arent talking 20 per here. 5 minutes a half. if he can make a 3 or two...thats all we need. if he can be that efficient thats perfect.
 
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Poetax

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idk....i mean he can play below average defense and i'm fine getting him minutes. we arent talking 20 per here. 5 minutes a half. if he can make a 3 or two...thats all we need. if he can be that efficient thats perfect.

Another threat from outside would really give this team a way to bust those zones that we are going to see. I hope he goes out his senior year playing well and Hawkins too.
 
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CELTICAT

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Barring injuries, he will not play meaningful minutes and there will not be a game we win because he comes through unexpectedly. That's not meant to bash him either, just my humble opinion.
 
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Poetax

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Barring injuries, he will not play meaningful minutes and there will not be a game we win because he comes through unexpectedly. That's not meant to bash him either, just my humble opinion.


Did that make you feel good?
 

jrpross_rivals

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Hard to say really because we saw so little of him last year. I really don't know what he's capable of. He did seem to be a liability on defense. But he's got a year in the system and he's supposed to be able to stroke it from long.

My prediction is that he'll play a few spot minutes at times, more than last year but still not really substantial. I may be wrong though.
 

CELTICAT

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No, but it always curious to me why some on here like to jump on to a normal thread just to interject negativity about a player, does it make you feel good?

So I can't express my opinion because you think it's negative? When's the last time our 11th man got serious run? 1996? Ravi Moss? I'm serious. The question at hand is will he play and specifically will he get meaningful minutes. I don't think he will and how I feel about it has got nothing to do with anything.
 
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Poetax

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So I can't express my opinion because you think it's negative? When's the last time our 11th man got serious run? 1996? Ravi Moss? I'm serious. The question at hand is will he play and specifically will he get meaningful minutes. I don't think he will and how I feel about it has got nothing to do with anything.

You make it sound like I'm mistaken about your post. Do you really think that your statements wasn't negative? Plus it seems that the general media's opinion is that our perimeter game will be our biggest weakness which is why the conversation was about who might help there if the freshmen don't fill the bill.
 
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So I can't express my opinion because you think it's negative? When's the last time our 11th man got serious run? 1996? Ravi Moss? I'm serious. The question at hand is will he play and specifically will he get meaningful minutes. I don't think he will and how I feel about it has got nothing to do with anything.

Think my opinion is totally opposite of yours. I think Mulder will get minutes and contribute.
 

CELTICAT

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You make it sound like I'm mistaken about your post. Do you really think that your statements wasn't negative? Plus it seems that the general media's opinion is that our perimeter game will be our biggest weakness which is why the conversation was about who might help there if the freshmen don't fill the bill.

Negative in that I answered in the negative, but certainly not negative for the sake of negativity. The opposite conclusion wouldn't be positive, it would be affirmative. Comprende?
 

Poetax

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Negative in that I answered in the negative, but certainly not negative for the sake of negativity. The opposite conclusion wouldn't be positive, it would be affirmative. Comprende?


At least you didn't waste your time in English class. :)
 
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bucsrule8872

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1. Briscoe
2. Fox
3. Monk
4. Adebayo
5. Willis
6. Humphries
7. Gabriel
8. Killeya-Jones
9. Hawkins
10. Mulder
11. Wynyard

Mulder is 10th man right now.

Cal usually goes 7-8 deep (2015 was an anomaly) and I think he could go 9 deep this season (Hawkins is going to get double digit minutes or pretty close to it).

That still leaves Mulder on the outside looking in, IMHO.
 

Poetax

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1. Briscoe
2. Fox
3. Monk
4. Adebayo
5. Willis
6. Humphries
7. Gabriel
8. Killeya-Jones
9. Hawkins
10. Mulder
11. Wynyard

Mulder is 10th man right now.

Cal usually goes 7-8 deep (2015 was an anomaly) and I think he could go 9 deep this season (Hawkins is going to get double digit minutes or pretty close to it).

That still leaves Mulder on the outside looking in, IMHO.

If you're looking at players, he's probably the last player before the walk ons but if he listed as a shooter he's probably around the fifth shooter on the team. If the media is right about our perimeter weaknesses, he might get a shot as long as that could be. But he will have to be a great shooter and defender in practice for Cal to even think of putting him in a game.
 

Aike

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1. Briscoe
2. Fox
3. Monk
4. Adebayo
5. Willis
6. Humphries
7. Gabriel
8. Killeya-Jones
9. Hawkins
10. Mulder
11. Wynyard

Mulder is 10th man right now.

Cal usually goes 7-8 deep (2015 was an anomaly) and I think he could go 9 deep this season (Hawkins is going to get double digit minutes or pretty close to it).

That still leaves Mulder on the outside looking in, IMHO.

I said this in another thread, but I'm interested in how the minutes will shake out between Humphries and SKJ as the year plays out.

Wouldn't surprise me to see games where one gets 20 minutes and the other gets 2, and vice versa.

But will one or the other seize the lion's share of the minutes by March?

I think we're all sold on Fox, Monk, Briscoe, and Bam getting major minutes.

Most would agree that Willis is next up, with Gabriel fighting him for time.

Hawkins is a reliable senior who can give you 10+ minutes any night without hurting you.

But I really don't know what to think about Hump and SKJ. I think they both play, and get plenty of chances.

But would it shock you if come tournament time, we are down to playing 7 guys most of the minutes? Or even 6, with Hawkins getting spot duty?
 

bucsrule8872

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Even if Fox, Briscoe, and Monk play the 104 minutes that Ulis/Murray/Briscoe combined for last year (which is about 35 minutes/game each), there's still about 15-20 minutes a game to go to Mulder/Hawkins. Matthews played over 10 minutes/game last year, and now he is gone. Mulder can logically compete for those minutes without really taking anything away from Ulis/Murray/Briscoe.

I expect Gabriel to get Matthews' minutes, not Mulder.
 
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bucsrule8872

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I said this in another thread, but I'm interested in how the minutes will shake out between Humphries and SKJ as the year plays out.

Wouldn't surprise me to see games where one gets 20 minutes and the other gets 2, and vice versa.

But will one or the other seize the lion's share of the minutes by March?

I think we're all sold on Fox, Monk, Briscoe, and Bam getting major minutes.

Most would agree that Willis is next up, with Gabriel fighting him for time.

Hawkins is a reliable senior who can give you 10+ minutes any night without hurting you.

But I really don't know what to think about Hump and SKJ. I think they both play, and get plenty of chances.

But would it shock you if come tournament time, we are down to playing 7 guys most of the minutes? Or even 6, with Hawkins getting spot duty?

I expect Cal will maybe play 10 guys in November with Mulder as 10th man playing 5-6 minutes per game.

I think by December the rotation will be down to no more than 9, and by SEC play it will be down to 8.

Then he will tighten it up to mainly 7 guys by the postseason.

In March, Fox, Monk, Briscoe, and Adebayo will play every minute they can while Willis, Humphries, and Gabriel split the rest of the minutes, playing based on the situation (Willis when we need shooting, Humphries when we need size, Gabriel when we need defense).
 

Aike

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I expect Cal will maybe play 10 guys in November with Mulder as 10th man playing 5-6 minutes per game.

I think by December the rotation will be down to no more than 9, and by SEC play it will be down to 8.

Then he will tighten it up to mainly 7 guys by the postseason.

In March, Fox, Monk, Briscoe, and Adebayo will play every minute they can while Willis, Humphries, and Gabriel split the rest of the minutes, playing based on the situation (Willis when we need shooting, Humphries when we need size, Gabriel when we need defense).

I'm not sold on Humphries yet. I won't be shocked if SKJ passes him up (or not...won't be shocked either way).

I also expect Hawkins to get minutes all year long. I'll never forget that he was contributing as a freshman, versus UL (15 minutes) in the Sweet Sixteen. Guy is battle tested.
 
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BlueRunner11

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Ehh I doubt that. Mulder is 5" taller and 3 years older. Brad may end up being a contributor in his time here but I don't expect him to see much meaningful clock this year.

Wasn't totally serious. ;)

But I do agree, I think Brad will get more PT during his time year than our usual victory cigars do.
 
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I said this in another thread, but I'm interested in how the minutes will shake out between Humphries and SKJ as the year plays out.

Wouldn't surprise me to see games where one gets 20 minutes and the other gets 2, and vice versa.

But will one or the other seize the lion's share of the minutes by March?

I think we're all sold on Fox, Monk, Briscoe, and Bam getting major minutes.

Most would agree that Willis is next up, with Gabriel fighting him for time.

Hawkins is a reliable senior who can give you 10+ minutes any night without hurting you.

But I really don't know what to think about Hump and SKJ. I think they both play, and get plenty of chances.

But would it shock you if come tournament time, we are down to playing 7 guys most of the minutes? Or even 6, with Hawkins getting spot duty?
Well, interesting. I had figured that:

Fox
Monk
Briscoe
Bam
Willis
Humphries

Were the obvious top 6 - based solely on scanning this board. Then I figured Hawkins to be the 7th man, as the only backcourt sub to get consistent minutes. Then I was trying to figure out who'd get the coveted 8th spot - and who'd be 9th, which figures to get a good bit less clock than 8th. And I assumed that would come down to Gabriel vs SKJ.

Based on your thinking I need to adjust my thinking....
 
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Aike

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Well, interesting. I had figured that:

Fox
Monk
Briscoe
Bam
Willis
Humphries

Were the obvious top 6 - based solely on scanning this board. Then I figured Hawkins to be the 7th man, as the only backcourt sub to get consistent minutes. Then I was trying to figure out who'd get the coveted 8th spot - and who'd be 9th, which figures to get a good bit less clock than 8th. And I assumed that would come down to Gabriel vs SKJ.

Based on your thinking I need to adjust my thinking....

Hey, I could be wrong. We may all adjust our thinking 6 weeks from now.
 

bucsrule8872

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Hey, I could be wrong. We may all adjust our thinking 6 weeks from now.

Very true.

I don't think any of us said we expected to see Willis playing 20+mpg let alone starting part of the season before the season started last year.

I know that I didn't even have him as a regular rotation guy going into the season.

Who knows, this year it could be Hawkins or Mulder or even Wynyard that surprises everyone by working his way into major minutes.

We just won't know for sure until the season starts.
 
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revcort

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I didn't read the entire thread, so others may have said this already... it depends.

Pardon my non-committal answer, but I think it depends on whether or not Calipari goes with the 3 guard look. If UK starts Fox, Briscoe, and Monk, I think 2 of the most important players on the team become Hawkins and Mulder. If you're starting 3 guards, you've got to have guys waiting in the wings to give them a breather and in the event of foul trouble.

From what I've read and even saw in that combine practice of Mulder, he's much improved over last season. His shooting is better. His defense is better. His athleticism has never really been in question.

Disclaimer: Calipari has always been known to play his best guys the most minutes, so it is possible, if a guy like Gabriel is playing so well that he must get on the floor, Calipari may switch to a bigger line-up when guards need breathers. He could put Willis at the 3 and then play Gabriel at the 4 or 5.

Edit: disclaimer #2, Mulder's defense. Off the bench, Calipari tends to favor the more defensive oriented player. If Mulder's defense is good enough, he'll get minutes.
 
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