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For whatever reason, AEW's ratings are taking longer to come out with the new system but yeah, they've done nothing to go from 500k+ to 300k in a week.
Once again, WWE is in coast mode since the Royal Rumble sells itself. Hardly feels like it's Saturday. I think Styles is done in a few days and Jericho returns on Raw.
Once again, WWE is in coast mode since the Royal Rumble sells itself. Hardly feels like it's Saturday. I think Styles is done in a few days and Jericho returns on Raw.
Supposedly the guy who was in charge of nxt black and gold is helping with raw and sd which prob explains why sd is exponentially better now.
The new rating system takes a minimum two days for official numbers to come out because they are drawing from more sources and getting significantly larger quantities of data than they used to.
Basically, If there’s any delay at all then they won’t come out until the beginning of the week since Nielsen doesn’t release anything but fast nationals on weekends.
And it’s gotten even slower than what it was when it first started out. I believe the slow delivery is one of the many complaints people who work in the industry have against it.
I wouldn’t have signed him given his age (40), plus he looks significantly older than that, bud I’d be lying if I were to say he isn’t a good fit otherwise. Like seriously I thought he was closer to 50 as old as he looks.
His debut presentation was pretty legit though and I’d be shocked if he doesn’t win that TNT title on Saturday. I would say something like the TNT title is his ceiling unless he really catches fire. So many younger guys with more potential than Ciampa I’d rather have higher up on the card than Ciampa in that World or Continental/International title scene
But as long as a wrestler isn’t a POS or someone I really just do not like at all (and there aren’t many of those), I’m always willing to keep an open mind when they debut.
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I don’t think this Vegas bookie is paying much attention to WWE
You all know I can’t stand Andrade and him going over Swerve is just zaniness that I’m not ready to accept, lol.
Oh, I really enjoyed the introduction and presentation of Ciampa. I think he could be an awesome mid card guy as I said last week.
That number is about the same as usual so pretty much what I expected with the demo rating being around the same as usual.
People can get really weird about ex-WWE people in AEW. Though to be fair the string of bad apples and flops TK signed in the signing spree from a few years ago kind of soured a lot of people on ex-WWE people in general. Which is understandable but illogical.
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I'm all for it if Andrade can behave and stay motivated because he's fantastic in the ring when he wants to be. The ladies man gimmick is working for me and it's something he can pull off without having to talk much for himself, which is key given he still struggles to speak understandable English. That damn guy had the crowd in a frenzy on Collision just for stripping down to boots and underwear.
If you can get Ciampa you take him. He's a solid hand. He and Gargano were incredible in NXT, as we know. Tag team wrestling just isn't that important on the main roster and it doesn't seem like fans want to see a strong division. Why WWE split those tag titles up I'll never know. If you're shifting focus off the division, the last thing you should do is create another set of titles. If I were Ciampa though, I'd probably color the beard. Some gray looks good. He looks like a really in-shape 62 year old.
Been totally swamped with work related things, stupid winter weather. Do we want to do a Rumble draw this year. I know Dragon won't do it but do we have 15 people for everyone to get two names for men and women?
Ciampa is good for collision bc it’s a lot less star power than dynamite so he can fill segments
Billy got his kids in AEW so still not sure why Dave buried him
I guess Andrade went over so they can continue the omega feud.
Billy got his kids in AEW so still not sure why Dave buried him
I guess Andrade went over so they can continue the omega feud.
Seriously bro looks as old as Billy Gunn. Coloring the beard will help some but that's a face that has aged very poorly.
I always liked him in ROH. I hope he can work off the WWE house style elements he had to learn and add to his repertoire. Not that WWE's house style is automatically bad, but I want what we saw in ROH and NXT Black and Gold.
Bring that back and that would be a thumbs up for me if he is willing to play ball and do jobs when needed. But I never hear about the ex-ROH people refusing to do jobs so I don't expect it will continue here unless he's gotten that special kind of WWE brain rot than Nixon Newell/Tegan Nox got.
I think it's multi-faceted with Andrade
For one he's really ******* good in the ring when he wants to be, and it never hurts to have establish another guy as a main event/AEW world title level talent. Like how often does a guy become available for AEW that can be brought in and be an AEW world title level talent from day one without having to be be built up to that level?
With the ever growing partnership with CMLL, I would logcially assume CMLL would want to bring the CMLL legend back into the fold down there so it's important that AEW make him look big time.
NJPW is already placing him in a prominent position, so you need to book one of their guys well. Can't be pulling nonsense like TNA did to New Japan with Okada
The best way to keep a talented guy who has a history of issues between the ears is keeping them regularly booked in a prominent position with creative they like.
Andrade is the first guy to leave AEW for WWE then come back to AEW. It's important to show that people like that are still welcome, that it won't be held against them, and they can be booked well even if they didn't like what they got the first time in AEW. Because from the outside looking in, it's easy to say the AEW to WWE move has not worked out particularly well for some.
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Ya I just don’t know what happened last time and hope he doesn’t fall into whatever trap that got him off tv last time - maybe it was before he divorced Charlotte it’s all a blur
Steve Maclin got the fired briefcase from the Feast or Fired match, so another longtime TNA guy gone from the company.
Didn't watch the interview, but is there some other context for that quote, or did he just nuke the higher ups at the E? That's wild.
Could you imagine someone doing that when Vince was in charge? Vince would have humiliated them on a weekly basis until their contract expired.
Ava Raine, Rock's daughter, elected not to renew her WWE contract. Apparently they didn't write her off and she was in the middle of a story with someone so I guess WWE wasn't expecting it.
Also a writer for Adult Swim announced on his LinkedIn that he is working on an AEW x Adult Swim animated TV series.
I can't believe Tony Khan offered Hobbs this much money given how he used them. I'd love to see him prove me wrong and think he could have been used a lot better than what he was but I don't see how he could ever be worth face of the company type money even if booked to his best potential.
If this were the NBA it would be like handing out a franchise centerpiece max contract to a guy who can't carry you far in the playoffs as the #1 guy.
Or to compare to Kentucky basketball, he's an Otega Oweh.
If this were the NBA it would be like handing out a franchise centerpiece max contract to a guy who can't carry you far in the playoffs as the #1 guy.
Or to compare to Kentucky basketball, he's an Otega Oweh.
- In for the Rumble if that's still a thing.
- Hell of a number for AEW. Good things happen when MJF is champion.
- I think Reigns is mainly referring to the young guys and telling them publically to step up if they want the spots the vets have. He was in semi-character. Cena did the same thing years ago. I also think there's a small shot in there towards creative, which he can get away with because he's a made man. They've done well with Breakker and Trick looks like an immediate star. But they crapped the bed with Giulia and had Carmelo hanging with Miz for nearly a year. Theory is another one. Thankfully it looks like they know what they have with Oba.
- I can't tell you everything Hobbs achieved in AEW but in two years he could be main eventing PLE's. I think it's likely in the '27 Rumble we're getting a clash between Hobbs and Oba, or against Bron or Reed. If you present these guys as elite athletic freaks and monsters, that's how fans will look at them.
- Hell of a number for AEW. Good things happen when MJF is champion.
- I think Reigns is mainly referring to the young guys and telling them publically to step up if they want the spots the vets have. He was in semi-character. Cena did the same thing years ago. I also think there's a small shot in there towards creative, which he can get away with because he's a made man. They've done well with Breakker and Trick looks like an immediate star. But they crapped the bed with Giulia and had Carmelo hanging with Miz for nearly a year. Theory is another one. Thankfully it looks like they know what they have with Oba.
- I can't tell you everything Hobbs achieved in AEW but in two years he could be main eventing PLE's. I think it's likely in the '27 Rumble we're getting a clash between Hobbs and Oba, or against Bron or Reed. If you present these guys as elite athletic freaks and monsters, that's how fans will look at them.
The big knock on AEW is they don’t know how to use big guys which is probably why Hobbs jumped - look at Wardlow and Big Bill since Jericho left the learning tree.
No reason for rumble since kmac and I are the iron survivors - I’ve posted on this board migrated many time over board since 2004.
People think since aj trademark his stuff he might go to AEW - I’d argue he’d be their second biggest signing other than punk.
Think Nightwish nailed it about Roman I feel like wwe is in this era lull like they went through with the golden and attitude era sometimes it takes a few years to transition to have the right guys fully take the torch.
No reason for rumble since kmac and I are the iron survivors - I’ve posted on this board migrated many time over board since 2004.
People think since aj trademark his stuff he might go to AEW - I’d argue he’d be their second biggest signing other than punk.
Think Nightwish nailed it about Roman I feel like wwe is in this era lull like they went through with the golden and attitude era sometimes it takes a few years to transition to have the right guys fully take the torch.
Definitely that was the best for sure - I remember on Tuesday everybody talked about wrasslin at the water cooler 1996-2000 was great.I haven’t read one post in this thread yet but I just want to say if you are a wrestling fan it was never better than the “Monday Night Wars” in the late 90s. Incredible and ridiculous stuff every week on both channels
In for the Rumble if you need me.
Watching the end of Smackdown now and there are a lot of people at this event dressed up as empty seats.
This is the first I've watched of WWE in a couple months. If YouTubeTV comes out with their sports only package I may become a regular watcher again. That and the 550% increase tickets prices for Smackdown in a couple of weeks at the YUM Center from just over 2 years ago have soured me. Do I want to see the Royal Rumble tomorrow? Yes. Am I paying $30 to watch it on TV? No.
Watching the end of Smackdown now and there are a lot of people at this event dressed up as empty seats.
This is the first I've watched of WWE in a couple months. If YouTubeTV comes out with their sports only package I may become a regular watcher again. That and the 550% increase tickets prices for Smackdown in a couple of weeks at the YUM Center from just over 2 years ago have soured me. Do I want to see the Royal Rumble tomorrow? Yes. Am I paying $30 to watch it on TV? No.
To be fair, Wardlow got numerous chances and he dropped the ball on all of them from getting injured all the time, having mediocre to ****** matches when he had to do something other than squash, and cutting mediocre at best promos. Bro is eye candy and a squash match merchant and that's it. The most valuable asset one can have is being available and if one constantly can't be available then what's the point in pushing them?
Do think they've dropped the ball on Big Bill though. His promos kind of suck but he's better at everything else
Hard for the young guys to step up on the main roster over the last two years when most of the young guys that have been on the main roster only recently starting getting major pushes, just joined WWE the main roster within the last month, or never get a chance to be elevated out of the midcard no how well they perform (Dominik Mysterio being the most glaring example)
And then they keep booking and bringing in a bunch of old/older guys who are never going to be stars in WWE and often times are getting those reps at the expense of younger talent with more potential. I'm looking at you Rusev, Aleister Black, Nakamura, Cardona, MCMG, Gargano, Ciampa, all those bums in the MFT not named Solo, Sheamus, Wyatt Sicks. Y'all had your chances, y'all aren't good enough or are washed, you aren't getting any better, step aside and stop wasting TV time.
I agree with most of that but at least they are sending Mcmg to aaa - bloated rosters were better when you had house shows
Anyone see the glitch during Smackdown that showed Bron Brekker as entrant 1?
At least stupidity finally got conquered and WWE finally let Danielson's wife comeback instead of keeping her sidelined because she's married to an AEW employee.