22-9 (10-8) Outside Top 25

Of course not, but last year wasn't good enough for year 5 and here we are, so I'm not holding my breath.

Trust me, there are plenty of fans out there who are giving Hubert all the excuses in the world. Heck, outside of this board a lot of fans think he’s actually a good coach. Just go look at the social media posts UNC basketball made about him being the first coach to win 20 games in 5 straight seasons. Wanted to barf reading the comments. Simpled minded casuals.

I think it all depends on NCAA performance. 2nd weekend or bust...

SmokePantsIC said:

I think it all depends on NCAA performance. 2nd weekend or bust...

On one hand it makes sense to say there’s no way they’ll fire Hubert if he gets to the Sweet 16. So I get that. On the other hand the tournament is such a crapshoot and so dependent on matchups and off-shooting nights. If we made it that far it doesn’t affirm Hubert has figured it out (he went to the championship game in year 1, and yet here we are wondering if can actually put together and develop a roster). If we feel that way still in year 5, we’re clearly not getting a good enough ROI in our head coach.

it doesn't matter, the second Caleb's imaging came back with a broken hand, CHD cemented himself another year. Especially with Henri out now. Wins over Kansas and Kentucky and Duke and Virginia when healthy. No coach is getting fired after losing their first team all american the last third of the season, not gonna happen

TheManitowocManiac said:

Trust me, there are plenty of fans out there who are giving Hubert all the excuses in the world. Heck, outside of this board a lot of fans think he’s actually a good coach. Just go look at the social media posts UNC basketball made about him being the first coach to win 20 games in 5 straight seasons. Wanted to barf reading the comments. Simpled minded casuals.

I heard someone bring up 20 wins on the Friday Center bus Saturday. I looked at them and said "20 wins doesn't say what it used to say."

SmokePantsIC said:

I think it all depends on NCAA performance. 2nd weekend or bust...

Right, its going to be so had to judge the seeding/ranking/record with Wilson and Veesaar missing games like this

GoWhitePhantoms said:

it doesn't matter, the second Caleb's imaging came back with a broken hand, CHD cemented himself another year. Especially with Henri out now. Wins over Kansas and Kentucky and Duke and Virginia when healthy. No coach is getting fired after losing their first team all american the last third of the season, not gonna happen

Kentucky sucks

Why can’t you all just make your judgments when the season is over. It’s too early. 2022 should have taught you that lesson because it did me.

WHSGRAD33 said:

I heard someone bring up 20 wins on the Friday Center bus Saturday. I looked at them and said "20 wins doesn't say what it used to say."

When you play 30+ games it takes away some of the significance.

Even if we go 3-2 in these next 5 games, that'd put us at 23-8 going into the ACC Tournament and we are probably the 7 seed in the ACC Tournament, maybe even the 8 seed. Even in the most generous ACCT and NCAAT scenario there, we'd finish 27-10. There's no world in which that's good enough to keep his job given the schedule we had.

SecondHalfPaige5 said:

Even if we go 3-2 in these next 5 games, that'd put us at 23-8 going into the ACC Tournament and we are probably the 7 seed in the ACC Tournament, maybe even the 8 seed. Even in the most generous ACCT and NCAAT scenario there, we'd finish 27-10. There's no world in which that's good enough to keep his job given the schedule we had.

Our schedule: 13-0 in Quad 3/4 7-6 in Quad 1/2 So average.

furgie1 said:

When you play 30+ games it takes away some of the significance.

Right. He won 20 in 2023 but didn't even make the tournament. Won 23 last year but had to play in the first 4 games. No, 20 doesn't say what it used to.

FanaticalHeel said:

On one hand it makes sense to say there’s no way they’ll fire Hubert if he gets to the Sweet 16. So I get that. On the other hand the tournament is such a crapshoot and so dependent on matchups and off-shooting nights. If we made it that far it doesn’t affirm Hubert has figured it out (he went to the championship game in year 1, and yet here we are wondering if can actually put together and develop a roster). If we feel that way still in year 5, we’re clearly not getting a good enough ROI in our head coach.

Great point. And to go one step further....a lot of teams make the sweet 16 who do not have a snowball's chance in hell of actually winning the whole thing. I don't want us to be happy with just getting to the sweet 16, I want us to actually be a legit contender for the title. I just understand if the powers that be see that he kept the team ranked for the majority of the year, had two terrible injuries pop up, and still got the team to win 2 games in the NCAAT. But then I worry that the powers that be are happy with us just being a tournament team and not a legit championship quality team. The grading on a curve has to stop.

I have a terrible feeling these injuries will be used to keep HD one more year. But I don't think this team can beat Duke, UL, and it will struggle at Syracuse and against VT, especially if HV remains sidelined.

Tarheelfan87 said:

Kentucky sucks

Since it matters when UNC is missing its best players, please remember Kentucky was missing 2-3 of its best players when we beat them

Still going to wait until the season officially wraps up before I fully dive back into the fire/year 6 discourse, but I don’t even know what to say to the people that just parrot Hubert’s raw win totals like that’s some sort of gotcha stat lol. It’s such a naive way to frame the quality of a coach’s resume. Just exasperating trying to discuss basketball with people like that.

CrushGroovin said:

Why can’t you all just make your judgments when the season is over. It’s too early. 2022 should have taught you that lesson because it did me.

It’s year 5… the judgments have already been made.

If you wanna fire him, fire him because of his resume as a whole and his inconsistency over the years. Don’t fire him because we end the regular season on a losing skid without our two best players. Unfortunate circumstances. A quality backup big (let’s say Lubin stays) doesn’t win you that game either last night. Wilson and Veesaar are just too important and too good to not have regardless of the effort and toughness. And yes, he should be fired.

Interesting to me the fan sentiment in this poll skews so heavily towards needing a new coach, wonder if it's representative of the broader UNC fanbase. For me personally, I think I've become too educated reading the articles and posts by more knowledgeable posters on this site, to the point that our deficiencies under the Davis regime smack me in the face when I watch our team play. It's hard to ignore the consistent sloppiness, not to mention the roster construction issues.

SmokePantsIC said:

Great point. And to go one step further....a lot of teams make the sweet 16 who do not have a snowball's chance in hell of actually winning the whole thing. I don't want us to be happy with just getting to the sweet 16, I want us to actually be a legit contender for the title. I just understand if the powers that be see that he kept the team ranked for the majority of the year, had two terrible injuries pop up, and still got the team to win 2 games in the NCAAT. But then I worry that the powers that be are happy with us just being a tournament team and not a legit championship quality team. The grading on a curve has to stop.

I know this sounds like a silly questions but do the PTB care about losing to state with no direct alum between Lee, Steve, & Bubba? @GregBarnes

bluehorn99 said:

Interesting to me the fan sentiment in this poll skews so heavily towards needing a new coach, wonder if it's representative of the broader UNC fanbase. For me personally, I think I've become too educated reading the articles and posts by more knowledgeable posters on this site, to the point that our deficiencies under the Davis regime smack me in the face when I watch our team play. It's hard to ignore the consistent sloppiness, not to mention the roster construction issues.

The fan sentiment will not be at the top of the list for keeping/not keeping Hubert. He was muscled into the position by Roy. Roy, donors, BOT people etc will all have their voices heard before the fans voice will be heard. If polled, I bet it's closer to 50/50 keep and fire him amongst the people with voices who matter.

CorneliusSuttree said:

Still going to wait until the season officially wraps up before I fully dive back into the fire/year 6 discourse, but I don’t even know what to say to the people that just parrot Hubert’s raw win totals like that’s some sort of gotcha stat lol. It’s such a naive way to frame the quality of a coach’s resume. Just exasperating trying to discuss basketball with people like that.

they're just trolls, you can't take that type of talk seriously. they don't really believe hubert is the answer. nobody does

FanaticalHeel said:

On one hand it makes sense to say there’s no way they’ll fire Hubert if he gets to the Sweet 16. So I get that. On the other hand the tournament is such a crapshoot and so dependent on matchups and off-shooting nights. If we made it that far it doesn’t affirm Hubert has figured it out (he went to the championship game in year 1, and yet here we are wondering if can actually put together and develop a roster). If we feel that way still in year 5, we’re clearly not getting a good enough ROI in our head coach.

Indeed dook is threatening every year and we are wondering every mid February