Probably going to try to do something like this each day now that things are picking up...
1) Some have seen, but Matt Norlander of CBS is reporting that Josh Schertz won't be the next Kansas State coach and is actually working on a potential deal to remain at Saint Louis. What I do know is that it hasn't been explicitly communicated to K-State just yet. However, Norlander is one of the best there is on a national level, and based off some other details, I tend to think it's true. I refuted other claims about Schertz/Kansas State the past couple weeks from folks like Trilly and others. What they were saying just wasn't true. That being said, this is the first true time since I began to put stock in a potential marriage that I think it's becoming less likely.
2.) Goodman put out a second tier of options that included Ben Jacobson, Takayo Siddle and Bob Richey. In reference to Jacobson, like Chris Jans, I think that's him wanting the job more than K-State wanting him. When it comes to Siddle and Richey, those are two names that have yet to come up when I've spoken to folks with knowledge of the process.
3) In addition to what Goodman posted, he also said Creighton head-coach-in-waiting Alan Huss was a target and a potential wild card. I agree. I think he's actually the second tier of options, maybe alongside Casey Alexander of Belmont who I don't necessarily put in the top tier like others. If you remember, Huss was one of the first two coaches I mentioned in connection with the job, even when others disagreed. It's not a name I'd dismiss at this point, even if not the favorite.
4) Speaking of Alexander, he's on the verge of losing in the quarterfinal of the Missouri Valley Conference Tournament despite being the No. 1 seed in St. Louis. So, he'll be the first option truly available if Kansas State wants to move quickly. Though he's coached a lot of terrific teams in his time as a head coach, with multiple regular season titles, he's had a tough time getting over the hump in the league tournaments.
5.) I've hinted that from day one I'd call the leader in the clubhouse Jerrod Calhoun of Utah State. I was told he was not the slam dunk to Cincinnati that people thought, and he is a Bob Huggins guy that would have appreciation for the K-State job because of his relationship to him. I still feel that way. The two sides remain on the same page, contrary to what others have said. I would suggest/recommend Kansas State pick up the pace in trying to lock him down, though. He will be a wanted man if more and more vacancies open. His wife has ties to Pitt, and one of his best friends is Joe Mazzulla - who happens to be from the Providence area of Rhode Island. So he's going to be pulled in multiple directions.
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young_cat
Mar 06, 8:00 PM
So many names being thrown out, with none of them having taken another job, or announced an extension yet.
Which means, we are doing a good job running a quiet search, and most commentators probably have very little idea where the search is currently in terms of who is the closest to being hired.
refuse to lose
Mar 06, 8:04 PM
I love the idea of having this as a daily feature @Derek Young. Thanks!
sckwildcat42
Mar 06, 8:11 PM
Do you put much stock in Goodmans comments as much as he dislikes kstate? Or at least the handling of tang
catsman15
Mar 06, 8:14 PM
Lock Calhoun up now, Gene.Derek Young
Mar 06, 8:16 PM
sckwildcat42 said:What comments? I already said ones I didn't agree with and which ones I don't.Do you put much stock in Goodmans comments as much as he dislikes kstate? Or at least the handling of tang
catfan03
Mar 06, 8:17 PM
catsman15 said:Yes we are about a week away from a lot more jobs opening upLock Calhoun up now, Gene.
CatsBy1
Mar 06, 8:28 PM
InTangWeTrust
Mar 06, 8:28 PM
Derek Young said:jeff just tweeted that Mr Norlander is incorrect about Schertz..good ole fashion source offProbably going to try to do something like this each day now that things are picking up... 1) Some have seen, but Matt Norlander of CBS is reporting that Josh Schertz won't be the next Kansas State coach and is actually working on a potential deal to remain at Saint Louis. What I do know is that it hasn't been explicitly communicated to K-State just yet. However, Norlander is one of the best there is on a national level, and based off some other details, I tend to think it's true. I refuted other claims about Schertz/Kansas State the past couple weeks from folks like Trilly and others. What they were saying just wasn't true. That being said, this is the first true time since I began to put stock in a potential marriage that I think it's becoming less likely. 2.) Goodman put out a second tier of options that included Ben Jacobson, Takayo Siddle and Bob Richey. In reference to Jacobson, like Chris Jans, I think that's him wanting the job more than K-State wanting him. When it comes to Siddle and Richey, those are two names that have yet to come up when I've spoken to folks with knowledge of the process. 3) In addition to what Goodman posted, he also said Creighton head-coach-in-waiting Alan Huss was a target and a potential wild card. I agree. I think he's actually the second tier of options, maybe alongside Casey Alexander of Belmont who I don't necessarily put in the top tier like others. If you remember, Huss was one of the first two coaches I mentioned in connection with the job, even when others disagreed. It's not a name I'd dismiss at this point, even if not the favorite. 4) Speaking of Alexander, he's on the verge of losing in the quarterfinal of the Missouri Valley Conference Tournament despite being the No. 1 seed in St. Louis. So, he'll be the first option truly available if Kansas State wants to move quickly. Though he's coached a lot of terrific teams in his time as a head coach, with multiple regular season titles, he's had a tough time getting over the hump in the league tournaments. 5.) I've hinted that from day one I'd call the leader in the clubhouse Jerrod Calhoun of Utah State. I was told he was not the slam dunk to Cincinnati that people thought, and he is a Bob Huggins guy that would have appreciation for the K-State job because of his relationship to him. I still feel that way. The two sides remain on the same page, contrary to what others have said. I would suggest/recommend Kansas State pick up the pace in trying to lock him down, though. He will be a wanted man if more and more vacancies open. His wife has ties to Pitt, and one of his best friends is Joe Mazzulla - who happens to be from the Providence area of Rhode Island. So he's going to be pulled in multiple directions.
Only1EmailBoys
Mar 06, 8:31 PM
Derek Young said:Are you willing to share what it might take to lock in Calhoun now? Would it be salary, NIL, etc? Or would it be all of the above and more full court press making him the #1 target since Schertz is likely off the table.Probably going to try to do something like this each day now that things are picking up... 1) Some have seen, but Matt Norlander of CBS is reporting that Josh Schertz won't be the next Kansas State coach and is actually working on a potential deal to remain at Saint Louis. What I do know is that it hasn't been explicitly communicated to K-State just yet. However, Norlander is one of the best there is on a national level, and based off some other details, I tend to think it's true. I refuted other claims about Schertz/Kansas State the past couple weeks from folks like Trilly and others. What they were saying just wasn't true. That being said, this is the first true time since I began to put stock in a potential marriage that I think it's becoming less likely. 2.) Goodman put out a second tier of options that included Ben Jacobson, Takayo Siddle and Bob Richey. In reference to Jacobson, like Chris Jans, I think that's him wanting the job more than K-State wanting him. When it comes to Siddle and Richey, those are two names that have yet to come up when I've spoken to folks with knowledge of the process. 3) In addition to what Goodman posted, he also said Creighton head-coach-in-waiting Alan Huss was a target and a potential wild card. I agree. I think he's actually the second tier of options, maybe alongside Casey Alexander of Belmont who I don't necessarily put in the top tier like others. If you remember, Huss was one of the first two coaches I mentioned in connection with the job, even when others disagreed. It's not a name I'd dismiss at this point, even if not the favorite. 4) Speaking of Alexander, he's on the verge of losing in the quarterfinal of the Missouri Valley Conference Tournament despite being the No. 1 seed in St. Louis. So, he'll be the first option truly available if Kansas State wants to move quickly. Though he's coached a lot of terrific teams in his time as a head coach, with multiple regular season titles, he's had a tough time getting over the hump in the league tournaments. 5.) I've hinted that from day one I'd call the leader in the clubhouse Jerrod Calhoun of Utah State. I was told he was not the slam dunk to Cincinnati that people thought, and he is a Bob Huggins guy that would have appreciation for the K-State job because of his relationship to him. I still feel that way. The two sides remain on the same page, contrary to what others have said. I would suggest/recommend Kansas State pick up the pace in trying to lock him down, though. He will be a wanted man if more and more vacancies open. His wife has ties to Pitt, and one of his best friends is Joe Mazzulla - who happens to be from the Providence area of Rhode Island. So he's going to be pulled in multiple directions.
tconman08
Mar 06, 8:31 PM
All the conflicting information with Schertz has been weird.
Derek Young
Mar 06, 8:32 PM
InTangWeTrust said:Like I said, I don't think it's been communicated to Kansas State yet. So technically Goodman could be right. But I think Norlander is more right than wrong on this one.jeff just tweeted that Mr Norlander is incorrect about Schertz..good ole fashion source off
Bootza
Mar 06, 8:32 PM
So we may end up in an awkward spot where Calhoun hasn't decided (him being our preferred option) and Alexander is ready to sign whenever.
Not ideal, but goes both ways I guess. Alexander being ready to sign may signal to Calhoun he's got to decide. Or could signal to Alexander that he's clearly not our first choice.
But I'm probably overthinking it.
Only1EmailBoys
Mar 06, 8:32 PM
tconman08 said:It could make sense if Schertz is trying to get more from STL for 1 more season. Putting the leverage on them to get what he wants?All the conflicting information with Schertz has been weird.
Derek Young
Mar 06, 8:32 PM
Only1EmailBoys said:I don't know. Part of the issue with these guys is they have every reason to be patient and get all the options on the table and pit them against one another.Are you willing to share what it might take to lock in Calhoun now? Would it be salary, NIL, etc? Or would it be all of the above and more full court press making him the #1 target since Schertz is likely off the table.
Derek Young
Mar 06, 8:33 PM
tconman08 said:Some have written Kansas State off way too early and way too much when it comes to Schertz. Including Goodman at the outset (and me tbh). And Schertz has yet to tell them no even to this moment. But other information I know aligns with a potential deal to stay at Saint Louis being in progress.All the conflicting information with Schertz has been weird.
InTangWeTrust
Mar 06, 8:36 PM
Derek Young said:if i had a gun to my head i would believe Matt before jeff so checks outLike I said, I don't think it's been communicated to Kansas State yet. So technically Goodman could be right. But I think Norlander is more right than wrong on this one.
pmcat
Mar 06, 8:37 PM
Hurts that we are a Billiken's pawn.
Also, give Calhoun what he wants.


EMAW4LIFE
Mar 06, 8:37 PM
Everything I've heard about Schertz is there was never an interest, was being used as leverage for other opportunities.
TerryWG
Mar 06, 8:37 PM
InTangWeTrust said:I guess my question is why would St. Louis be in the mix for Schertz?jeff just tweeted that Mr Norlander is incorrect about Schertz..good ole fashion source off
jub1982
Mar 06, 8:43 PM
TerryWG said:Because he’s built them into a fringe top 25 team this season. If they’re going to pay him more and give him more resources he believes he can do even better there.I guess my question is why would St. Louis be in the mix for Schertz?
DominoCat
Mar 06, 8:45 PM
Derek Young said:Clearly, Norlander is hearing from St. Louis and Goodman is hearing His agent. Don’t count out KSU.Some have written Kansas State off way too early and way too much when it comes to Schertz. Including Goodman at the outset (and me tbh). And Schertz has yet to tell them no even to this moment. But other information I know aligns with a potential deal to stay at Saint Louis being in progress.
Jbryanlarson
Mar 06, 8:46 PM
TerryWG said:The only thing I can think of is that Schertz wants to wait until one of the blue blood jobs opens up and if he has to wait another year, or maybe two he is willing to do that. To me that is a bad idea because he can fall out of favor quickly and he should probably move up to more money while he has the chance, but it is his career. He can make choices as he wishes. Just reading tea leaves, Schertz seems to be playing the game, but not very serious about KState. I hope Gene is putting heavy pressure on Calhoun right now. I really like that he is a huggs guy.I guess my question is why would St. Louis be in the mix for Schertz?
purpleheadedyogurtslinger
Mar 06, 8:47 PM
catsman15 said:Agreed! Then get Falsev, Templen, Elamin and Alexander locked up too. Get this thing started!Lock Calhoun up now, Gene.
Derek Young
Mar 06, 8:49 PM
DominoCat said:My understanding is that Schertz is pretty far along in talks with Saint Louis. That's what I mean by it not being done, and it had yet to be communicated to Kansas State, but I think the momentum is clearly rapidly moving towards him staying put.Clearly, Norlander is hearing from St. Louis and Goodman is hearing His agent. Don’t count out KSU.
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