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MakeThePantsGold said:

I think Shrewsberry deserves another year. That take is extremely contingent on roster retention and the team's desire to play for him. If everyone transfers, then none of this matters. However, what did we expect from him this year? His best player was injured for the whole year; Haralson was hurt for the majority of the year, Ahneman was out for the year, and he had a completely incompetent front court. Shrewsberry inherited one of the worst rosters and somehow managed to bring in the best recruit and the best recruiting class we've ever had. I've seen a lot of knocks on his development. Certa went from 2.5 ppg to dropping multiple 30-point games. Haralson averaged 16 and 4, that is a great freshman season. If you watched his high school film, you would've known he was not going to be a one-and-done player in this class. He needed to improve his playmaking and catch and shooting to be considered an NBA player, and because Burton went down he had to become the primary ball-handler, which is not his game. Shrewsberry got absolutely no transfer portal budget this past season, and we know it wasn't just a lack of player interest because the same thing happened with the women's team. Expecting any coach to compete in this age of college basketball with Kebba Njie and Carson Towt as your frontcourt is ridiculous. If you keep Burton, Haralson, and Certa you will easily have enough scoring to be a tournament team. You factor in Sanderson, we will finally have a real back up point guard. The issue is that you absolutely have to bring in an athletic 4 who can defend and rebound, and a 5 who can score in the paint. I also wouldn't mind putting all the money into a 5, relying on Ahnehman and Solongo to be decent backups, and having Koehler put on some weight to be able to defend underneath.

Big Fish Bobby said:

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MakeThePantsGold said:

I think Shrewsberry deserves another year. That take is extremely contingent on roster retention and the team's desire to play for him. If everyone transfers, then none of this matters. However, what did we expect from him this year? His best player was injured for the whole year; Haralson was hurt for the majority of the year, Ahneman was out for the year, and he had a completely incompetent front court. Shrewsberry inherited one of the worst rosters and somehow managed to bring in the best recruit and the best recruiting class we've ever had. I've seen a lot of knocks on his development. Certa went from 2.5 ppg to dropping multiple 30-point games. Haralson averaged 16 and 4, that is a great freshman season. If you watched his high school film, you would've known he was not going to be a one-and-done player in this class. He needed to improve his playmaking and catch and shooting to be considered an NBA player, and because Burton went down he had to become the primary ball-handler, which is not his game. Shrewsberry got absolutely no transfer portal budget this past season, and we know it wasn't just a lack of player interest because the same thing happened with the women's team. Expecting any coach to compete in this age of college basketball with Kebba Njie and Carson Towt as your frontcourt is ridiculous. If you keep Burton, Haralson, and Certa you will easily have enough scoring to be a tournament team. You factor in Sanderson, we will finally have a real back up point guard. The issue is that you absolutely have to bring in an athletic 4 who can defend and rebound, and a 5 who can score in the paint. I also wouldn't mind putting all the money into a 5, relying on Ahnehman and Solongo to be decent backups, and having Koehler put on some weight to be able to defend underneath.

MakeThePantsGold said:

I think Shrewsberry deserves another year. That take is extremely contingent on roster retention and the team's desire to play for him. If everyone transfers, then none of this matters. However, what did we expect from him this year? His best player was injured for the whole year; Haralson was hurt for the majority of the year, Ahneman was out for the year, and he had a completely incompetent front court. Shrewsberry inherited one of the worst rosters and somehow managed to bring in the best recruit and the best recruiting class we've ever had. I've seen a lot of knocks on his development. Certa went from 2.5 ppg to dropping multiple 30-point games. Haralson averaged 16 and 4, that is a great freshman season. If you watched his high school film, you would've known he was not going to be a one-and-done player in this class. He needed to improve his playmaking and catch and shooting to be considered an NBA player, and because Burton went down he had to become the primary ball-handler, which is not his game. Shrewsberry got absolutely no transfer portal budget this past season, and we know it wasn't just a lack of player interest because the same thing happened with the women's team. Expecting any coach to compete in this age of college basketball with Kebba Njie and Carson Towt as your frontcourt is ridiculous. If you keep Burton, Haralson, and Certa you will easily have enough scoring to be a tournament team. You factor in Sanderson, we will finally have a real back up point guard. The issue is that you absolutely have to bring in an athletic 4 who can defend and rebound, and a 5 who can score in the paint. I also wouldn't mind putting all the money into a 5, relying on Ahnehman and Solongo to be decent backups, and having Koehler put on some weight to be able to defend underneath.

MakeThePantsGold said:

I think Shrewsberry deserves another year. That take is extremely contingent on roster retention and the team's desire to play for him. If everyone transfers, then none of this matters. However, what did we expect from him this year? His best player was injured for the whole year; Haralson was hurt for the majority of the year, Ahneman was out for the year, and he had a completely incompetent front court. Shrewsberry inherited one of the worst rosters and somehow managed to bring in the best recruit and the best recruiting class we've ever had. I've seen a lot of knocks on his development. Certa went from 2.5 ppg to dropping multiple 30-point games. Haralson averaged 16 and 4, that is a great freshman season. If you watched his high school film, you would've known he was not going to be a one-and-done player in this class. He needed to improve his playmaking and catch and shooting to be considered an NBA player, and because Burton went down he had to become the primary ball-handler, which is not his game. Shrewsberry got absolutely no transfer portal budget this past season, and we know it wasn't just a lack of player interest because the same thing happened with the women's team. Expecting any coach to compete in this age of college basketball with Kebba Njie and Carson Towt as your frontcourt is ridiculous. If you keep Burton, Haralson, and Certa you will easily have enough scoring to be a tournament team. You factor in Sanderson, we will finally have a real back up point guard. The issue is that you absolutely have to bring in an athletic 4 who can defend and rebound, and a 5 who can score in the paint. I also wouldn't mind putting all the money into a 5, relying on Ahnehman and Solongo to be decent backups, and having Koehler put on some weight to be able to defend underneath.

Del2210 said:

You lost me with the very first sentence. I strongly disagree however I fully understand ND will NOT do anything with his current buy-out/contract being so large. We are stuck with Shrews for at least 1 more season. Now we just patiently wait to see if the true athletes (2 of them) stick around or will we have a situation where Shres is coaching his family and friends. I'm beyond disappointed in the programs direction over the past 2 seasons.

JackSoble said:

While I agree in principle with everything you said, the "roster retention and the team's desire to play for him" aspect is not looking great.

MakeThePantsGold said:

I think Shrewsberry deserves another year. That take is extremely contingent on roster retention and the team's desire to play for him. If everyone transfers, then none of this matters. However, what did we expect from him this year? His best player was injured for the whole year; Haralson was hurt for the majority of the year, Ahneman was out for the year, and he had a completely incompetent front court. Shrewsberry inherited one of the worst rosters and somehow managed to bring in the best recruit and the best recruiting class we've ever had. I've seen a lot of knocks on his development. Certa went from 2.5 ppg to dropping multiple 30-point games. Haralson averaged 16 and 4, that is a great freshman season. If you watched his high school film, you would've known he was not going to be a one-and-done player in this class. He needed to improve his playmaking and catch and shooting to be considered an NBA player, and because Burton went down he had to become the primary ball-handler, which is not his game. Shrewsberry got absolutely no transfer portal budget this past season, and we know it wasn't just a lack of player interest because the same thing happened with the women's team. Expecting any coach to compete in this age of college basketball with Kebba Njie and Carson Towt as your frontcourt is ridiculous. If you keep Burton, Haralson, and Certa you will easily have enough scoring to be a tournament team. You factor in Sanderson, we will finally have a real back up point guard. The issue is that you absolutely have to bring in an athletic 4 who can defend and rebound, and a 5 who can score in the paint. I also wouldn't mind putting all the money into a 5, relying on Ahnehman and Solongo to be decent backups, and having Koehler put on some weight to be able to defend underneath.

Soc Johnson said:

Sounds like he is staying at least one more year so ND best be ready to break open that wallet because they are going to need about 7 dudes to transfer in.

Soc Johnson said:

Sounds like he is staying at least one more year so ND best be ready to break open that wallet because they are going to need about 7 dudes to transfer in.

apegambino said:

If the majority of the key contributors don't return to ND, this was a complete miss to move on from Shrews IMO. Why spend that big money in the portal when you already had the players and the coaching staff couldn't keep them around?