There is no old/new rule. They’ve just taken “reaction time” and interpreted it as something completely different from what it’s always been.
2026 B1G Tourney Session IV Thread
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Ferrari is so much fun to watch
JS8793 is a great and fair minded poster. I really have missed he,Madden, and chief. He is right to feel strongly that the new rule sucks because it does. It cost PJ against Taylor earlier this year. I think he is just frustrated because it at least used to be a no doubt takedown.
@js8793 i absolutely agree that these calls shouldn’t be called the way they are. It hurts the sport. We should encourage scoring instead of taking points away. That said, until the rules change this is 100% how it’s been called all year. The thing I had a problem with is saying it’s PSU bias. This same call went against them this year
You're dumb. The way takedowns have been awarded all season it was a guarantee this was going to happen. And it's gonna happen at Nationals as well and it might be a PSU wrestler that gets screwed. Something needs done. As far as my loyalty I don't give a **** where they seed Rocco at Nationals and his win and big 10 title will be just a memory to me.
It’s just that he seemed to have the same game plan as the first time they met which resulted in a pretty unlikely win. Not sure why there wouldn’t have been a different game plan ready for this time? Look at the PJ/Taylor difference since the 1st match.
I certainly don’t think he’s outmatched. But I’m absolutely not confident he’ll win if they meet again.
The old rule didn't allow for reaction time. The new rule allows for reaction time. That is the difference. I agree it sucks but it has been called that way all year. PJ would be undefeated it not for "reaction time"
Food for ghadiali! Ferrari was trying to stall his way to the W again
Penn State crowned a school-record seven champs at Big Tens.
"It's nothing new for Penn State, so I think it just shows what we do," Rocco Welsh said after winning the 184-pound title.
Full recap here: https://t.co/iC7N5f9ff4
"It's nothing new for Penn State, so I think it just shows what we do," Rocco Welsh said after winning the 184-pound title.
Full recap here: https://t.co/iC7N5f9ff4
I retract the PSU bias part (though like a lot of big programs, Iowa included, you do generally get a favorable whistle).
The Duke example is a great one because it might be the thing that keeps him from being a 4x undefeated champ and that’s disgraceful!
Way to go Ghadiali. A late TD. And then the ref made the appropriate stall call when Ferrari reached for the area off the edge to seek an OOB.
We may have been saved from watching the splits!
Damn are we sure AJ didn’t grow up in Pa with how quick he throws the whirlybirds?
Penn State goes 7-1 in the finals and the sweet cherry on top is ZERO Ferrari champs.
Manning throwing his hands up for a stall call with his guy down 5-1 at the end of the 3rd is so on brand.
You absolutely can have your opinion as I have mine. I was just pointing out that it seems like a super tough matchup for BOTH guys. I believe Blaze gets the next one. I actually kind of want a Jax vs Blaze semi or a Blaze vs Seidel semi with Davino getting the other guy.
And that, my friends, is the cherry on top of the sundae.
my god Ferrari is a douche.
my god Ferrari is a douche.
Wth are you talking about. 21 guns. Lmao.21 Guns. Is that you? Welcome back. You were right when you insisted we need 8 scoring wrestlers. That really turned things around for the team.
Oh...I agree with him as well but wtf. Dude goes MIA all season only to come here and ***** about PSU getting a favorable call that so many from other teams have been getting all year. That's my only beef...
Josh needs to be in the discussion for the Hodge for sure.
Tonight we celebrate it. In two weeks we burn down the internet.
The sport won’t loose any fans from it.
The sport loses fans when 83% of the guys don’t score or even try to score. Controversy is actually good.
I’ll leave it up to the coaches, enforcement bodies, sports media, etc to do something about it.
Just wow. From Campbell University in Buies Creek, North Carolina to B1G Champion!
PSU went 20-3 on Saturday
PSU went 9-2 on Sunday
Not a bad tournament
Edit: I think they went 29-6, so I must have missed a loss.
PSU went 9-2 on Sunday
Not a bad tournament
Edit: I think they went 29-6, so I must have missed a loss.
You are 100% correct. Terrible rule but how it has been called all year. I respect your opinion as you are always fair. We can disagree with respect as we always have. Please keep posting when you have time. I have always liked your perspective.
This whole "wrestling" thing is just them angling for a Jersey Shore spinoff.
It isn't who he has been in the past. I hate the rule too even though my guy won.
Penn State wrestling clinches fourth straight Big Ten title with school-record 184 team points
Penn State wrestling secured its fourth straight Big Ten title on Sunday in front of a partisan crowd at the Bryce Jordan Center.
Tournament takedown count, by my count (so unofficial): 69-8
There was only a brief period when they took reaction time away. For the vast majority of wrestling’s history reaction time has been in the rulebook and generally defined the same (loosely as “not instantaneous”).
This used to be widely interpreted as a very very short time, usually a split second to allow some kind of reaction. Now it’s interpreted as “as long as the defender is still moving he has reaction time.” It’s a radical departure from the tradition of the sport.
The first possible takedown in the sequence (Welsh hand down) is an example of a tough call historically in wrestling. Calling reaction time there is 100% defensible. The new part is saying that getting returned to the mat with a second left on the clock is not enough time for reaction time. That was a no doubt takedown for my entire life up until this year.
And it’s not always consistent this year either. Watch this:
This is correctly called imo but there’s less reaction time here than what Welsh got in the final. One of these calls has to be wrong.
About to be the freshman of the year too, I imagine.