Budgets
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Interesting but hard to know the true costs to run a successful program without the NIL expenditures.
Seeing the costs per win is certainly amusing for some of the schools though.
Seeing the costs per win is certainly amusing for some of the schools though.
By any and every measure, Seton Hall is in the bottom quarter of Big East team's in all financial markers. And when you compare them to all Power Conference teams (P4/BE), we are even lower, bottom 10%.
Jeff Borzello wrote the following regarding Butler and had to lump Seton Hall and DePaul in as bottom jobs in the Big East......
Where does Butler fall in the Big East pecking order?
While Matta was rightly viewed a a pillar of Butler basketball history, the program has stagnated in recent years. It's near the bottom of the Big East from an NIL perspective and simply doesn't have the resources that many of the other schools in the conference possess. It's a bottom-three job in the league, alongside Seton Hall and DePaul. Athletic director Grant Leiendecker has gone on record in recent weeks saying they're going to be competitive in the NIL space and will increase those resources in the coming years.
Jeff Borzello wrote the following regarding Butler and had to lump Seton Hall and DePaul in as bottom jobs in the Big East......
Where does Butler fall in the Big East pecking order?
While Matta was rightly viewed a a pillar of Butler basketball history, the program has stagnated in recent years. It's near the bottom of the Big East from an NIL perspective and simply doesn't have the resources that many of the other schools in the conference possess. It's a bottom-three job in the league, alongside Seton Hall and DePaul. Athletic director Grant Leiendecker has gone on record in recent weeks saying they're going to be competitive in the NIL space and will increase those resources in the coming years.
The same thing could have been written at any time in the last twenty years
The portal has made it extra hard to SHU
I’ve been reading this about Seton Hall for decades.
Yup and it's been true for decades but now it's more pronounced and the transfer rules also took away the sweet spot that Seton Hall had found.I’ve been reading this about Seton Hall for decades.
No longer can we take solid HS recruits and make them better over 4 years or find old-school sit-out transfers and turn them into starters ala Sterling Gibbs,
Quincy McKnight, Ro Gil, etc.
Not really sure these figures are meaningful as they are not really broken down. Like the salaries for coaches and all the assistants. I don't fully know where NIL funds fit or don't fit into the total. Also if you read the report these figures are for the fiscal year ending June 2025. So they don't reflect the current season at all.
Revenue sharing VS NIL
I get the feeling that in these budget talks - rev share / NIL- NIL is only real NIL. IE, if I win the lottery and give Pirate Blue a mill, and that is given to hoops, that is rev share, and NIL is only real NIL - a company paying a player for, duh, NIL. I was thinking that rev share was SHU operating revenue that is given to players, and contributions of any kind were in the NIL bucket. I was told last night this was not correct.
Is that how you guys see it.
I get the feeling that in these budget talks - rev share / NIL- NIL is only real NIL. IE, if I win the lottery and give Pirate Blue a mill, and that is given to hoops, that is rev share, and NIL is only real NIL - a company paying a player for, duh, NIL. I was thinking that rev share was SHU operating revenue that is given to players, and contributions of any kind were in the NIL bucket. I was told last night this was not correct.
Is that how you guys see it.
I think that is correct.
Using the umbrella term NIL for all player compensation is incorrect.
Your donations to Pirate Blue can be part of revenue sharing as well as other available sources a school may have.
I heard on a radio interview an interesting concept at Quinnipiac for its hockey program. Payment of $20,000 per year with a $200,000 bonus paid at time of graduation. Not sure of accuracy.
Numbers would have to increase and not sure could work fo basketball but developing compensation plans as a retention tool is a bedrock of many company strategies.