Friday Night MSG
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I know this sounds sour or hypocritical…I’m
Not Shas biggest fan (although I don’t think I hate on him like others say) but tomorrow night has me fully engaged for the first time this season
Really cool to be back there Friday night with eyes on the program..a win would be phenomenal
Good for Sha and the players..have to be ready for pressure on bud and zone lol
Not Shas biggest fan (although I don’t think I hate on him like others say) but tomorrow night has me fully engaged for the first time this season
Really cool to be back there Friday night with eyes on the program..a win would be phenomenal
Good for Sha and the players..have to be ready for pressure on bud and zone lol
Time to pay them back for the BET game 2 years ago.
It might weaken their seed. Pitino was giving them a pep talk and referring to their ncaa tournament aspirations before or during the Providence game
We all operate on different bandwidths. But cant imagime this being the first time a SHU fan was engaged.
Because of our metrics, the worst it possibly does is move them from a 4 seed to a 5 seed.
Nothing to play for except trying to win back to back BE tourney titles, like they did with the BE regular season, and get another shot at UConn.
Winning BE probably only solidifies them as a 4, instead of a possible 5 seed.
You are right though that Self and other coaches have said before that losing deep into the conference tourney is sometimes an advantage for a particular group. I think Jay Wright said this as well when they won their first BE title.
If I were a betting man, I might place a few bucks on the Pirates tomorrow.
They've got some intangibles working for them right now. The Dar Factor, the Sha COY, more on the line than the Johnnies, the chip on their shoulder attitude that brings out the best.......some real positive mojo. Love the energy..... a win tomorrow would set the stage for a real Pirate explosion Saturday. Go Pirates!!!
They've got some intangibles working for them right now. The Dar Factor, the Sha COY, more on the line than the Johnnies, the chip on their shoulder attitude that brings out the best.......some real positive mojo. Love the energy..... a win tomorrow would set the stage for a real Pirate explosion Saturday. Go Pirates!!!
you weren't engaged when they were ranked? sounds like you only started watching a month ago
lol ok. I was at the Marquette game with my girls for their first ever sporting event..when’s the last time you were at a game? You just show up to prop up Sha to make your crazy anti KW stuff to look better
And take shots at the school
I watch the games but always felt like we were more pretender than contender. Even ranked it was hollow..nice accomplishment but didn’t seem real deal
This game though, will have some juice and is a very real opportunity for these guys to show something in a high profile spot..they need to win the BET to make the NCAAT that story will just continue to grow and grow nationally..that is cool, they earned it they deserve it and I hope they win big
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lol i was at the marquette game too.
did you know they're ranked? were you surprised to hear that just now ?
Having StJohns back is a panacea for the BE and the MSG deal. This group of schools virtually guarantees sellouts yesterday and today.
To each his own but that’s a terrible take in my opinion.
This team was built for this tournament, now all we need is a few 3’s to drop and our defense turns this into a street fight. We have the right coach for this moment.
I was trying to ascertain what you meant by this beyond our defense turning the game into a street fight (which didn't happen), given Sha's track record in the Big East tournament to date. Chalk it up to pre-game excitement.
Yes we needed a few 3's to drop , that is why we must get a shooter next year .
We shot 50% from 3 in the first half.
This game was lost in the first 8 minutes of the game and 2nd half.
Payne, Fisher it is so obvious to me in the first minute of the game what you will get out of them. Against Creighton Fisher was strong and Payne was bouncy and active. Both contributed nicely for the game.
Last night Fisher gets outworked when he should have secured the opening tip possession, then gets beat by Mitchell for an off rebound and put back. Set the tone for saint john's right there.
We all saw Payne's first 3 minutes.
I disagree with Sha. We did punch back with Hines and Rivera.
Parker helped.
BUT Simpkins nullified some of that good play on both ends of the floor
Dar not seen for first 14 minutes
We roll out the same starting lineup in 2nd half, lead balloons to 17 or 19, we sub and have to claw our way back. Too short but Pitinonknew there was danger.
I like Sha as much as anyone around here, but I will say what I said a few weeks ago, his biggest failing was not finding a role for Dar this season.
Last night was also a prime example of his loyalty to Payne, Fisher and Simpkins as our ultimate undoing.
Our D is so much better with Parker, Dar and Clark on floor. WIlliams as well. In the 2nd half we should have added that group to ASM and Hines and roll with that rotation. Sprinkle the others as needed for rest.
So frustrating.
At points throughout the season we would see Holloway change the lineup coming out of halftime. I don’t understand with the season on the line why he would roll out the same 5 guys.
I also think he stuck with Riveria too long.
Stuck with rivera too long.all year. should have played fifty percent of avg this year, band the rest to Dar at a min.
I get why he used him because he gives us that physicality and athleticism up front but, you're absolutely right too many flaws when he gets extended minutes.
What does Dar look like in practice to get so little playing time? And we wouldn’t even be mentioning him if not for Rivera getting 2 quick fouls on Thursday.
I agree.None of us are in practice, and there has to be a reason.He doesn't play I guess. I said it on hit this board after one of the x games. I definitely saw his mistakes on limited play before this weekend. But honestly for a team that doesn't shoot well from two or three.He's always around the ball is pretty efficient and works on defense with great length.
I think sha fell in love with some of rivera's early play.And his physicality.
Didn't we think we got them?
Staton-McCray, 41.3% 2 years ago at Samford, 33.3% this year
Williams, 37.1% 2 years ago at LSU, 33.7% this year
Dar, 37% last year at Rice, 19.0% this year
Simpkins, 26.3% least year at Elon, 37% this year but only 31.9% in the BE (at least he improved)
Parker, 35.7% last year at NC State, 20.5% this year
A whopping 43 players are shooting over 40% from 3, 5 are over 45%, none over 50%.
Also none playing in a Shaheen-type offense, LOL.
If that's not an indictment of the coach, his player development ability, and his offensive system (or lack of it), I don't know what is.
Probably not fair to evaluate the coach's "player development ability" this year by only looking at whether the players improved on their three-point shooting percentage. There are other aspects of the game.