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Halldan

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In short few really cared about the game, instead caring only about their money driven personal situation. Like it or not that's the rule of survival in our lives.

Without government intervention establishing rules that cannot be challenged. (and in truth is that really going to be a thing) the game we all love will be but a distant memory.
 

Piratz

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I think the answer is in collective bargaining somehow. Some baseline terms at least addressing transferring, perhaps tied into the fact that these are still individuals who need to be enrolled in a university and pass some level of academics. That's not gone entirely, until they make eligibility available to non-students? LMAO!

There's too much money involved and, as a result, the Courts are empowering the players who are generating that money to get theirs. Is there any NCAA leadership that won't be challenged and overruled in Courts anymore given the precedents established?
 

HallGuy2323

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I think the answer is in collective bargaining somehow. Some baseline terms at least addressing transferring, perhaps tied into the fact that these are still individuals who need to be enrolled in a university and pass some level of academics. That's not gone entirely, until they make eligibility available to non-students? LMAO!

There's too much money involved and, as a result, the Courts are empowering the players who are generating that money to get theirs. Is there any NCAA leadership that won't be challenged and overruled in Courts anymore given the precedents established?
Who says they need to be enrolled and pass classes now?
 

SPK145

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I think the answer is in collective bargaining somehow. Some baseline terms at least addressing transferring, perhaps tied into the fact that these are still individuals who need to be enrolled in a university and pass some level of academics. That's not gone entirely, until they make eligibility available to non-students? LMAO!

There's too much money involved and, as a result, the Courts are empowering the players who are generating that money to get theirs. Is there any NCAA leadership that won't be challenged and overruled in Courts anymore given the precedents established?
The answer lies in players being classified as employees and having a collective bargaining agreement, emphasis on collectively. Percentage of gross revenues, minimum and maximum spending caps, academics, etc. Coaches would hate it though as it takes away much of their power and hence value. The real pro model.

And you don't need to be an employee to have collective bargaining agreements but it just seems better that way.
 

Halldan

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A decent if not great remedy, but you know the schools along with the coaches will fight this tooth and nail.
 

Halldan

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Hurley and Izzo can beat a lot of teams, but they can’t defeat the Supreme Court
There's another court that Hurley has issues with

 

radecicco

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As someone somewhere pointed out, we have the exact system that the big schools and donars want. They sued the NCAA into oblivion so that we have a system of college sports with no rules. Just about anything is ok.
 

radecicco

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I have wondered why recruiting international pros was ok, but not players in the NBA or G- League with eligibility. None of these guys should be on college teams. I stand corrected, a G-league contract is not an NBA contract.
 

MooneyHall07

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A decent if not great remedy, but you know the schools along with the coaches will fight this tooth and nail.

Unfortunately the players are not going to even consider coming to the table until Congress agrees to an antitrust exemption for the NCAA, which is not happening anytime soon. There are not 60 votes for an antitrust exemption in the Senate. The House couldn’t even pass their own bill with the exemption four weeks ago.
 
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Halldan

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Unfortunately the players are not going to even consider coming to the table until Congress agrees to an antitrust exemption for the NCAA, which is not happening anytime soon. There are not 60 votes for an antitrust exemption in the Senate. The House couldn’t even pass their own bill with the exemption four weeks ago.
That's the government intervention I spoke about above. Needed, but are the votes there? And then the lawsuits will follow.
 

MooneyHall07

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That's the government intervention I spoke about above. Needed, but are the votes there? And then the lawsuits will follow.

Aside from a few sponsors of the House bill, the overwhelming majority of Democrats in the House and Senate are opposed to an antitrust exemption. Senate Democrats, including Cory Booker have their own bill that does not give an exemption. Add in the fact it’s possible (likely?) that Dems take the House in 26, I don’t see how the NCAA gets ahead on this.
 

batts

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Unfortunately the players are not going to even consider coming to the table until Congress agrees to an antitrust exemption for the NCAA, which is not happening anytime soon. There are not 60 votes for an antitrust exemption in the Senate. The House couldn’t even pass their own bill with the exemption four weeks ago.
This! one hundred percent!
 
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