How desirable is living in California?

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"A California Democrat wants to tax sales of gold, cotton, tobacco and other goods linked to slavery — and to divert the money to black residents, in the latest bid to turn reparations into reality.

The bill by Assemblyman Reggie Jones-Sawyer is one of more than a dozen bills backed by the California Legislative Black Caucus seeking reparations for black Californians, especially the descendants of slaves.

They stem from a July 2023 report from the state Reparations Task Force, where Jones-Sawyer served as a member, and underscores efforts to turn controversial policies into a legally-binding compensation scheme.

Starting in July 2025, those buying 'gold bullion and gold coins' in California would pay a tax at the point of purchase, Jones-Sawyer's bill states.

The tax would also apply to 'tangible property made in whole or in part from cotton, or tobacco products.'

Those buying 'wine, olives, cane sugar, granulated sugar, rice, and coffee beans' in stores would also pay the tax.

The revenues would flow into a 'Reparations Fund' that would be available to African Americans, and focussed especially on those who are a 'descendant of persons enslaved in the United States.'

Black residents could apply to the fund for housing loans or to cover tuition costs at approved colleges for courses up to four years in length.

Jones-Sawyer's office did not answer DailyMail.com's request for details on how the tax scheme would work.

The bill was introduced in February and amended earlier this month."


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I have a friend who owns a small Mediterranean food place who is questioning whether or not she will be able to stay in business with the minimum wage increase. She has to make a 15% profit margin just to stay open, and right now she has to charge an average of $13 for a Kabob or Gyro plate. It’s going to go up to over $16 after April 1 with the minimum wage increase, and there’s no telling right now if her customers are going to keep coming in. Most of her customers are not wealthy.

Newsome tried to kill small business with his completely unnecessary Covid restrictions (and did a good job of it). Now it appears he’s trying to finish off those that survived his Covid policies.

 
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I have a friend who owns a small Mediterranean food place who is questioning whether or not she will be able to stay in business with the minimum wage increase. She has to make a 15% profit margin just to stay open, and right now she has to charge an average of $13 for a Kabob or Gyro plate. It’s going to go up to over $16 after April 1 with the minimum wage increase, and there’s no telling right now if her customers are going to keep coming in. Most of her customers are not wealthy.

Newsome tried to kill small business with his completely unnecessary Covid restrictions (and did a good job of it). Now it appears he’s trying to finish off those that survived his Covid policies.


for the record I do not support the $20 an hour but it does not apply to small business

  • The restaurant is part of a restaurant chain of at least 60 establishments nationwide. An establishment is a single restaurant location offering food or beverages to customers. Business locations performing only administrative, warehouse, or food preparation work are not counted as “establishments” toward the 60 establishment minimum.
I will add that a lot of this goes back to the republicans refusal to address minimum wage on a national level so they left it to the states. Well this is what you get. Is $10.10 looking better now
 

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I will add that a lot of this goes back to the republicans refusal to address minimum wage on a national level so they left it to the states. Well this is what you get. Is $10.10 looking better now
So a democratically controlled state passes a law you don’t like, you blame republicans. Got it.

what is the $10.10 you’re talking about? California minimum wage for all other people is $16/hr.. and oh, btw, did you notice that newsom exempted his big donor who owns Panini. I’m sure that’s a fair deal too.
 

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I have a friend who owns a small Mediterranean food place who is questioning whether or not she will be able to stay in business with the minimum wage increase. She has to make a 15% profit margin just to stay open, and right now she has to charge an average of $13 for a Kabob or Gyro plate. It’s going to go up to over $16 after April 1 with the minimum wage increase, and there’s no telling right now if her customers are going to keep coming in. Most of her customers are not wealthy.

Newsome tried to kill small business with his completely unnecessary Covid restrictions (and did a good job of it). Now it appears he’s trying to finish off those that survived his Covid policies.
Pretty much. Who will pay for the unemployment claims? Taxpayers. What will the SBA loan default numbers look like? Restaurant owners will make other small changes to try and stay afloat. Some will fire their bookkeepers, some will lay-off cleaning crews, others will fire their bussing staff. Whatever customer they manage to put food on the table for will end up paying for the increases.

It's untenable. Just how much can a McDonald's or a Wendy's increase their price in order to meet the minimum wage? And they will have to raise them....they can't be expected to operate at no profit. I just looked up the average price for a big mac meal in Southern California....$10. That will become $15. Who is willing or able to pay that much for that quantity or quality of food? And imagine that for a family of 4. $60? For McDonalds? Lol....no.

And let's not pretend that it's only fast-food franchisers who will suffer. If McDonald's is paying $20/hr for their garbage, how much will small one-off family restaurants have to pay for their good quality food?
 
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Pretty much. Who will pay for the unemployment claims? Taxpayers. What will the SBA loan default numbers look like? Restaurant owners will make other small changes to try and stay afloat. Some will fire their bookkeepers, some will lay-off cleaning crews, others will fire their bussing staff. Whatever customer they manage to put food on the table for will end up paying for the increases.

It's untenable. Just how much can a McDonald's or a Wendy's increase their price in order to meet the minimum wage? And they will have to raise them....they can't be expected to operate at no profit. I just looked up the average price for a big mac meal in Southern California....$10. That will become $15. Who is willing or able to pay that much for that quantity or quality of food? And imagine that for a family of 4. $60? For McDonalds? Lol....no.

And let's not pretend that it's only fast-food franchisers who will suffer. If McDonald's is paying $20/hr for their garbage, how much will small one-off family restaurants have to pay for their good quality food?
He ( @xusx ) makes it seem like only big companies will be affected, but franchise owners are also included. If I own a single restaurant of a large chain (McDonald’s) then I’m under the scope of this law too.
 

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He ( @xusx ) makes it seem like only big companies will be affected, but franchise owners are also included. If I own a single restaurant of a large chain (McDonald’s) then I’m under the scope of this law too.
Franchise owners are definitely part of it. But even small family-owned eateries will get hit. If a McD's is paying $20 for their garbage, a good restaurant will have to pay more than that. And at some point, they will all have to pass on some, if not all, of the burden to taxpayers. The middle class in CA is becoming extinct.
 

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Franchise owners are definitely part of it. But even small family-owned eateries will get hit. If a McD's is paying $20 for their garbage, a good restaurant will have to pay more than that. And at some point, they will all have to pass on some, if not all, of the burden to taxpayers. The middle class in CA is becoming extinct.
We went to a Jack in the box a couple weeks back and they don’t have counter people any longer, at least the one we went too.
 

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Everything the Democrats do is aimed at eliminating the middle class, They are a party of the rich and the poor philosophically and practically
 
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for the record I do not support the $20 an hour but it does not apply to small business

  • The restaurant is part of a restaurant chain of at least 60 establishments nationwide. An establishment is a single restaurant location offering food or beverages to customers. Business locations performing only administrative, warehouse, or food preparation work are not counted as “establishments” toward the 60 establishment minimum.
I will add that a lot of this goes back to the republicans refusal to address minimum wage on a national level so they left it to the states. Well this is what you get. Is $10.10 looking better now
It's the republicans fault 🤣
Not even democrats of any sanity want a national $20 minimum.
So what are you blabbering about?
 
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The pubs tried on
Pretty much. Who will pay for the unemployment claims? Taxpayers. What will the SBA loan default numbers look like? Restaurant owners will make other small changes to try and stay afloat. Some will fire their bookkeepers, some will lay-off cleaning crews, others will fire their bussing staff. Whatever customer they manage to put food on the table for will end up paying for the increases.

It's untenable. Just how much can a McDonald's or a Wendy's increase their price in order to meet the minimum wage? And they will have to raise them....they can't be expected to operate at no profit. I just looked up the average price for a big mac meal in Southern California....$10. That will become $15. Who is willing or able to pay that much for that quantity or quality of food? And imagine that for a family of 4. $60? For McDonalds? Lol....no.

And let's not pretend that it's only fast-food franchisers who will suffer. If McDonald's is paying $20/hr for their garbage, how much will small one-off family restaurants have to pay for their good quality food?
Here is the issue, you made the same arguments when the minimum wage was $7.25 an hour. Going to $10 was going to cause a massive disruption of the industry. So what do we believe. When republicans take on these extreme positions they lose all credibility. Have you ever considered the RINOS were actually right.
 

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for the record I do not support the $20 an hour but it does not apply to small business

  • The restaurant is part of a restaurant chain of at least 60 establishments nationwide. An establishment is a single restaurant location offering food or beverages to customers. Business locations performing only administrative, warehouse, or food preparation work are not counted as “establishments” toward the 60 establishment minimum.
I will add that a lot of this goes back to the republicans refusal to address minimum wage on a national level so they left it to the states. Well this is what you get. Is $10.10 looking better now
Tell that to my friend who is one of thousands of small fast food business owners in California. Her restaurant is not part of a chain, she owns one restaurant. What’s kept her in business is that she serves good food at reasonable prices. She can do that by working full time at the restaurant herself, and paying her employees reasonable wages. The state is taking away her ability to maintain reasonable prices.

Drive down any major street in a commercial area and you will see “mom and pop” burger joints, taqueria’s, pizza places, etc. on nearly every corner. Many, if not most of their employees are high school kids putting in a few hours to make some money after baseball practice, etc. Almost nobody in that line of work is looking to make a career out of flipping burgers. They just want a job to make some extra money, and those jobs are going to all but disappear.

And this has nothing to do with any attempts by the legislature to increase the federal minimum wage. Do you really think that California would have held their minimum wage to $10.10 per hour?
 

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The pubs tried on

Here is the issue, you made the same arguments when the minimum wage was $7.25 an hour. Going to $10 was going to cause a massive disruption of the industry. So what do we believe. When republicans take on these extreme positions they lose all credibility. Have you ever considered the RINOS were actually right.
Minimum wage is an unfunded mandate placed on the people by big government.
 

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DTLA looking like a 3rd world country....

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"LA is currently home to more than 46,000 unhoused people, a 10 percent increase on the previous year, according to the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority.

Homelessness in downtown LA in particular has exploded since the pandemic, with more than 10,000 more unhoused people on the streets since 2019.

Since 2015 homelessness in the city has increased 70 percent.

Over 90 percent of those women have experienced physical or sexual assault."


Democrat leadership absolutely killing it.
 

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DTLA looking like a 3rd world country....

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"LA is currently home to more than 46,000 unhoused people, a 10 percent increase on the previous year, according to the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority.

Homelessness in downtown LA in particular has exploded since the pandemic, with more than 10,000 more unhoused people on the streets since 2019.

Since 2015 homelessness in the city has increased 70 percent.

Over 90 percent of those women have experienced physical or sexual assault."


Democrat leadership absolutely killing it.
And California already has the highest unemployment rate in the nation right now, and ranked last in the nation in job growth last quarter.

Wait till the fast food jobs disappear.
 

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Because for 80 years, it was kept reasonable. $20 per hour for fast food employees is not reasonable.
The republicans didn’t think it was reasonable so they “fixed” it. Now it’s a train wreck.
 

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My parents have decided to age in place instead of moving out of CA.
My response? Install security perimeter exterior steel doors, camera system, security lights around the home's perimeter and purchasing a Remington 870. Note: this is an upscale property in LA County.

Ten years ago, I did not think this was all necessary.
 

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The pubs tried on

Here is the issue, you made the same arguments when the minimum wage was $7.25 an hour. Going to $10 was going to cause a massive disruption of the industry. So what do we believe. When republicans take on these extreme positions they lose all credibility. Have you ever considered the RINOS were actually right.
Show your evidence that Calif minimum wage was ever affected by the national law? You dolt. Calif minimum wage was already $16/hour.
 

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The republicans didn’t think it was reasonable so they “fixed” it. Now it’s a train wreck.
“The new law, signed by Governor Gavin Newsom last fall, takes effect on April 1, requiring that fast-food chains with at least 60 locations nationwide pay workers at least $20 an hour. The means the state's 553,000 fast-food workers will earn more than the state's $16 minimum wage for all other industries..”

“The federal minimum wage for covered nonexempt employees is $7.25 per hour. Many states also have minimum wage laws. In cases where an employee is subject to both the state and federal minimum wage laws, the employee is entitled to the higher of the two minimum wages…”


What is so f’n hard to understand? It’s been forever since California’s minimum wage was the same as the national average.
 

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“The new law, signed by Governor Gavin Newsom last fall, takes effect on April 1, requiring that fast-food chains with at least 60 locations nationwide pay workers at least $20 an hour. The means the state's 553,000 fast-food workers will earn more than the state's $16 minimum wage for all other industries..”

“The federal minimum wage for covered nonexempt employees is $7.25 per hour. Many states also have minimum wage laws. In cases where an employee is subject to both the state and federal minimum wage laws, the employee is entitled to the higher of the two minimum wages…”


What is so f’n hard to understand? It’s been forever since California’s minimum wage was the same as the national average.
Yeah, and Calif waiters/waitress still expect 18% to 20% tips. Get real. Midwest, Southern states waiters and waitress get below minimum wages and deserve 18% to 20% tips. No way Jose, dat tipping rule does not apply to Calif...
 
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“The new law, signed by Governor Gavin Newsom last fall, takes effect on April 1, requiring that fast-food chains with at least 60 locations nationwide pay workers at least $20 an hour. The means the state's 553,000 fast-food workers will earn more than the state's $16 minimum wage for all other industries..”

“The federal minimum wage for covered nonexempt employees is $7.25 per hour. Many states also have minimum wage laws. In cases where an employee is subject to both the state and federal minimum wage laws, the employee is entitled to the higher of the two minimum wages…”


What is so f’n hard to understand? It’s been forever since California’s minimum wage was the same as the national average.
Dam, you can bet Calif McDonald's, In & Out, Burger King burgers will hit $10. Hell all fast foods will see increase pricing of at least 40%. Also, there will be a ripple down effect; bet on layoffs for sure. The remaining workers will have to work harder and faster for the under staffing.

Not even our 10% senior discount will put a dent on the increased prices. Sad, Calif is not good place for seniors with fixed income...
 
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Dam, you can bet Calif McDonald's, In & Out, Burger King burgers will hit $10. Hell all fast foods will see an increase pricing of at least 40%. Also, there will be a ripple down effect; bet on layoffs for sure. The remaining workers will have to work harder and faster for the under staffing.

Not even our 10% senior discount will offset the increased prices...
There is also talk of “rush hour pricing “. The ripple down effect will also include the non chain restaurants having to pay more to hire and keep their employees from leaving for the higher paying chain jobs.
 
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The only fast food I do now is Panda Express but most of PF Chang's is now in frozen food and is an easy prep.
I just will not play the game and partake with the redistribution of wealth.
 
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There is also talk of “rush hour pricing “. The ripple down effect will also include the non chain restaurants having to pay more to hire and keep their employees from leaving for the higher paying chain jobs.
Bruddah what is "rush hour pricing" about? Yeah, the smaller independent stores will lose workers to the bigger chains, dat's terrible...
 
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My parents have decided to age in place instead of moving out of CA.
My response? Install security perimeter exterior steel doors, camera system, security lights around the home's perimeter and purchasing a Remington 870. Note: this is an upscale property in LA County.

Ten years ago, I did not think this was all necessary.
That's what I am seeing, very expensive for anyone who does not own a home. But the ones that do own are not leaving, I have never seen less homes for sale, and the ones that do sell are charging outrageous prices
 

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Bruddah what is "rush hour pricing" about? Yeah, the smaller independent stores will lose workers to the bigger chains, dat's terrible...
They are talking about charging more during the lunch and dinner rush. 11:30-1:30 and 5:00-7:30
 
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The only fast food I do now is Panda Express but most of PF Chang's is now in frozen food and is an easy prep.
I just will not play the game and partake with the redistribution of wealth.
Goodbye. Don't let the door hit you in the butt.
 

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