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2nd and 3rd trimester abortions make up roughly 10.3% of all abortions. There have been roughly 46M abortions since the early 70's. That is roughly 5M 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions. Only about 600K slaves came to the United States.

This has to be the single worst take in the history of this board. And Glennnn posts here.

No mention of the breeding of slaves, the 3/5ths compromise where the most sacred document of our nation defines a black person's life as being less than a White's, nor the systemic racism that followed for generations.

Nope. Guys it's cool. BigBlue counted the slave ship ticket stubs.
 
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Haha this is classic and a microcosm of today's society. You've got a guy who feels all of these things with no facts or reason to back up those feelings. Then you have others trying unsuccessfully to make him see logic, which will never happen, and its creating frustration and animosity. In today's America, feelings trump facts.
 

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This has to be the single worst take in the history of this board. And Glennnn posts here.

No mention of the breeding of slaves, the 3/5ths compromise where the most sacred document of our nation defines a black person's life as being less than a White's, nor the systemic racism that followed for generations.

Nope. Guys it's cool. BigBlue counted the slave ship ticket stubs.
Uhh, you need to check yourself. 2% of the fetuses aborted after 12 weeks MIGHT have been terminated voluntarily by the mother. And some of them were white!!!!! That is far more atrocious and impacting than centuries of slavery and further oppression.
 
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This has to be the single worst take in the history of this board. And Glennnn posts here.

No mention of the breeding of slaves, the 3/5ths compromise where the most sacred document of our nation defines a black person's life as being less than a White's, nor the systemic racism that followed for generations.

Nope. Guys it's cool. BigBlue counted the slave ship ticket stubs.


Can we tall about the fact no slaves or slave owners are alive today? Can we also talk about how systemic racism mostly doesnt exist in today's world in this country? If you're black, white, brown, or any other color, you can succeed in America today. Prove me wrong...
 
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This has to be the single worst take in the history of this board. And Glennnn posts here.

No mention of the breeding of slaves, the 3/5ths compromise where the most sacred document of our nation defines a black person's life as being less than a White's, nor the systemic racism that followed for generations.

Nope. Guys it's cool. BigBlue counted the slave ship ticket stubs.
This has to be the single worst take in the history of this board. And Glennnn posts here.

No mention of the breeding of slaves, the 3/5ths compromise where the most sacred document of our nation defines a black person's life as being less than a White's, nor the systemic racism that followed for generations.

Nope. Guys it's cool. BigBlue counted the slave ship ticket stubs.
I got that information partly from Henry Louis Gates Jr., but he only claims 388000. Perhaps he wasn't as good a ticket counter. He has some fascinating shows on PBS. One in particular involved a family I know. The Polites of South Carolina. Their matriarch self taught herself to read and her roots can be traced all the way back to a village in Sierra Leone. A very rare thing. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4460964.stm But go ahead and be snarky. My take was valid. Everyone knows generations of slave families were born here, that wasn't the point.
 

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How do you know what and why he did what he did? Curious...

Because he's said numerous times what kneeling was for. and not one time did he say he's trying to p*ss off veterans or white people
 

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Yeah, I need to learn Geography. Through with you.

The George Mason - Juan Dixon line should be further south.
 

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This has to be the single worst take in the history of this board. And Glennnn posts here.

No mention of the breeding of slaves, the 3/5ths compromise where the most sacred document of our nation defines a black person's life as being less than a White's, nor the systemic racism that followed for generations.

Nope. Guys it's cool. BigBlue counted the slave ship ticket stubs.

Who was behind the 3/5 compromise?

And we fought a war to end this. I lost numerous ancestors in that war.
 

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Because he's said numerous times what kneeling was for. and not one time did he say he's trying to p*ss off veterans or white people

He had to specifically state that for it to be true??? His OWN mother stated he was wrong.... (Oh, for the inevitable post a link....here you go...)

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Florida sorts reasons for abortions into eight general categories: life of the mother; physical health of the mother; emotional or psychological health of the mother; abnormality in the baby; rape; incest; social or economic concerns; and elective.

Abortions citing the mother’s emotional or psychological health climbed from 0.1 percent in 2016 to 1.3 percent in 2017 and 1.7 percent in 2018. Similarly, abortions categorized as due to the mother’s physical health jumped from 0.1 percent in 2016 to one percent in 2017 and 1.5 percent in 2018.



While still making up a small fraction of all abortions, abortions performed because of risk to the mother’s life, an abnormality in the baby, and a pregnancy resulting from incest also rose as a percent of the whole. Abortions because the mother’s life was in danger increased from 0.02 percent in 2016 to 0.2 percent in 2017 and 0.3 percent in 2018. Abortions due to an abnormality rose from 0.7 percent in 2016 to 0.9 percent in 2017 and one percent in 2018. Between 2009 and 2016, just three abortions were performed because of incest; in 2017, five abortions were performed due to incest, and in 2018, there were eight abortions because of incest. The only reason that showed little change was rape: abortions due to rape composed 0.1 percent of the total in 2018 but have fluctuated from 0.08 percent (2015) to 1.6 percent (2012) of all abortions reported in Florida.

According to this, of those less than 9% of abortions occuring after the 1st trimester, 6.2% of them are reported as medical, rape or incest. That kind of negates your argument that women are just out here aborting late term prenancies without medical or legal reason.

So 6.2% aborting for medical, rape, or incest proves 93.8% are absolutely aborting without medical or legal reason. So which part of his argument is negated?
 

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Can we tall about the fact no slaves or slave owners are alive today? Can we also talk about how systemic racism mostly doesnt exist in today's world in this country? If you're black, white, brown, or any other color, you can succeed in America today. Prove me wrong...
Wow, it didn't take long:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

Since you won't read it, the gist is that since blacks were denied fair housing practices, generations were frozen out of the single most significant method of accumulating and passing down wealth: home ownership.
 

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So 6.2% aborting for medical, rape, or incest proves 93.8% are absolutely aborting without medical or legal reason. So which part of his argument is negated?
In the 2nd trimester. 1st trimester embryos are aborted because the mother chooses to abort. It's an embryo. No one is arguing that.
 
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Wow, it didn't take long:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

Since you won't read it, the gist is that since blacks were denied fair housing practices, generations were frozen out of the single most significant method of accumulating and passing down wealth: home ownership.


I wont argue the point, but it doesnt directly address what I said about racism and its existence in today's world. Also what do you propose be done about generational wealth? Make those like Anderson Cooper surrender his to minorities? I'm like many millions of white Americans who haven't inherited a penny, so I guess I'm not as empathetic as you'd like me to be. I became a success on my own and work with many very successful people of all races and gender. Sitting next to a black man now who makes more than me and agrees with my assessment true racism does not exist on a widespread scale in this country.
 

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I wont argue the point, but it doesnt directly address what I said about racism and its existence in today's world. Also what do you propose be done about generational wealth? Make those like Anderson Cooper surrender his to minorities? I'm like many millions of white Americans who haven't inherited a penny, so I guess I'm not as empathetic as you'd like me to be. I became a success on my own and work with many very successful people of all races and gender. Sitting next to a black man now who makes more than me and agrees with my assessment true racism does not exist on a widespread scale in this country.
I'm sitting next to a wealthy white person and a poor white person. They believe racism is an issue in this country.
 
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I'm sitting next to a wealthy white person and a poor white person. They believe racism is an issue in this country.

Ok, show the proof. Actual details and not just "feelings" about the white guy you perceived to give you a mean look that one time...
 

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I'd be more than happy to discuss the socioeconomic issues in this country. Let's take the police for example, they are far more likely to be less trusting and more violent in a poor neighborhood no matter the race. The opposite is true in an upperclass neighborhood. Much of that is perceived as racism when it's mostly socioeconomics. True diversity is more tied to socioeconomic diversity than racial diversity. A white and black person are very likely to be similar in beliefs and lifestyle if growing up in a similar socioeconomic lifestyle.
 

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That's an idiotic thing to ask. It either exists or it doesnt. If you cant cited proof of its existence, that alone proves me correct.
I said provide your proof and I'll provide mine. Why can't you produce yours?


You don't even realize you have already provided the proof. You are a white person trying to tell black people about racism. Would you tell a women about the pains of childbirth? Would you tell someone with a disability you don't have what it's like to live with that disability?

You are never going to understand or experience racism like someone that is an ethnic minority. You learn about racism from reading and hearing about it. Try living through it before you try telling people your uneducated inexperineced beliefs on the matter.
 
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I wont argue the point, but it doesnt directly address what I said about racism and its existence in today's world. Also what do you propose be done about generational wealth? Make those like Anderson Cooper surrender his to minorities? I'm like many millions of white Americans who haven't inherited a penny, so I guess I'm not as empathetic as you'd like me to be. I became a success on my own and work with many very successful people of all races and gender. Sitting next to a black man now who makes more than me and agrees with my assessment true racism does not exist on a widespread scale in this country.
Look, why didn't you just say you had a black friend earlier? That would have proven you don't have a racial bias.

How about this: a black person is more likely to be sentenced to death for the same crime as a white person, and more likely to be wrongfully executed.

When a UK professor introduced this information to white people in the US National Crime Survey the respondents were more likely to support the death penalty when they were told black people were more likely to be wrongfully executed.

How is it fixed? The damage was done over generations, it will take generations to repair. Affirmative action and increased educational opportunities are just some ways to combat inherent racial bias that runs rampant in our country.

That's the real problem. It isn't the KKK. It's that people get so damn defensive when confronted with racial bias that they lash out. And we can start doing our part by not bitching about it solutions on message boards.
 

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Ok, any black man can succeed in this country if he's willing to work for it. There's my proof.
Success and racism can coexist. Dr. King was a success, do you think he didn't deal with extreme racism?

Being successful had nothing to do with whether racism exist or not. You can a success in spite of it, but the sheer fact black men have to work much harder than there white counter parts and the fact they are paid on avg less than whites, proves racism alive and well.
 
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Again, no one is asking for anything from you except not bitching like a snowflake when an entire class of people complain about proven quantifiable mistreatment.
That is not true.

Reparations come from me.

Do you always lie when you answer?
 

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Success and racism can coexist. Dr. King was a success, do you think he didn't deal with extreme racism?

Being successful had nothing to do with whether racism exist or not. You can a success in spite of it, but the sheer fact black men have to work much harder than there white counter parts and the fact they are paid on avg less than whites, proves racism alive and well.

You may be the most misinformed indoctrinated poster I have seen outside of Sean.
 
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