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Seton75

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If he can play D well enough to get decent time, I think a big guy who can pass as well as him, along with his other skills, can help a team. Hoping for the best for Sandro. We have been blessed to have so many good guys on our teams lately.

And with the new rules, seeing the guys long enough to create some sort of mental relationship with them may be a thing of the past, which is tragic.
 

TheHall87

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Seems like he is in a good spot. Toronto doesn't have a lot of expectations and Sandro isn't blocked the way he was in San Antonio. Hopefully that translates into playing time.

Also, Toronto will be playing Brooklyn on Seton Hall night on Tuesday, November 11 at Barclays Center. The event includes a post-game meet and greet with Sandro.

I've pasted the contents of the email below for those who may not have seen it.

This is the link to purchase tickets for those interested.


Seton Hall Night at the Brooklyn Nets​

Mamu meet and greet!

Pirate basketball fans! We’re excited to announce that at Seton Hall Night with the Brooklyn Nets, attendees will be invited to a private post-game meet and greet with Seton Hall Basketball legend Sandro Mamukelashvili!

This exclusive experience will feature time to meet and mingle, a group photo opportunity, a special diploma presentation with Athletics Director Bryan Felt, and a signed photo for the first 100 ticket purchasers.
Get your tickets today, and let's bring the Pirate Pride to Barclays Center!

Seton Hall Night at the Brooklyn Nets​

Sandro Mamukelashvili

Tuesday, November 11​

7:30 p.m.​

Toronto Raptors vs. Brooklyn Nets​

Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY​

Cheer on the Brooklyn Nets while they battle SHU alumni Sandro Mamukelashvili and the Toronto Raptors! The first 50 fans to purchase tickets will receive an exclusive Seton Hall x Brooklyn Nets hat, available for pickup during the game.

Pregame Information: Join us before the game at 5 p.m. at Wild East Brewing Company for a SHU meetup! No registration necessary.
623 Sackett St, Brooklyn, NY 11217
 
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Seton75

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Great line!!

Lots of guys are gonna get done in by Flagg. I'd rather see my guy where Mamu is that a step behind him
 

Fishjam

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Sandro is carving out a regular role for himself in the Toronto rotation. Only been 6 games but he's getting 16-20 minutes each game and in the small sample has been very efficient with his shooting.

64% FG
45% 3FG
80% FT

Averaging 17.7 mins, 8.8 pts, 2.5 reb, 2.3 asts, 2.0 to 1 A/TO
 

NYShoreGuy

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After missing the Brooklyn Nets game with a minor injury, Sandro was as back as the Raptors beat Cleveland on the road for the second time in this early season.

17 minutes
13 points, 4/5 fg, 2/3 3s, 3/3 FTs
5 rebounds
1 asst
+8
Did he sign for the shu alumni gathering Tuesday?
 

radecicco

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He's put up double digit points in 7 of 11 games this season, 6 of the last 7, and 4 of the last 4 :)

He had that one clunker at Memphis. Other than that he’s been very good in his role. Toronto turned out to be a great fit for him.
 
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NYShoreGuy

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Was Willard perfect? No, but from an on-court perspective the criticism of him by some fans is so unbelievably tone deaf. It's astonishing.
Willard was marginal in most every big spot that mattered. Arkansas, wofford, kansas, tcu, Michigan state, Oregon.

His best wins outside of big east were south carolina Texas tech texas Kentucky

Just unnecessary losses especially in mid-season back half of conference play.

Did he capitalize for his own interests yes, but he could have left with better results
 
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HallBall'n

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Willard was marginal in most every big spot that mattered. Arkansas, wofford, kansas, tcu, Michigan state, Oregon.

His best wins outside of big east were south carolina Texas tech texas Kentucky

Just unnecessary losses especially in mid-season back half of conference play.

Did he capitalize for his own interests yes, but he could have left with better results
Well, if nothing else, you’ve made Sobo’s point distinct. Tone deaf, astonishing.

And then you decide to make it all about Willard’s own self interests. LOL
 

Piratz

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Was Willard perfect? No, but from an on-court perspective the criticism of him by some fans is so unbelievably tone deaf. It's astonishing.
Seconded. There's so much criticism of a guy that had us in 6/7 NCAAT's. But you see this when there's a plateau. I remember the uproar fans had with Joe Torre when the Yankees "only" made the playoffs every year and stopped winning the WS. I thought it was nuts. Phillies fans are doing the same right now with Rob Thomson because he's had them in the playoffs 4 consecutive years - first time ever - but not advancing enough.

The 1-5 NCAAT record is a blemish, but I'd sign to go 1-5 with Holloway at this stage. Better than missing this much. 😂
 
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PirateBlue08

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Well, if nothing else, you’ve made Sobo’s point distinct. Tone deaf, astonishing.

And then you decide to make it all about Willard’s own self interests. LOL
What's incorrect though? Willard was good in comparison to bozos like Bobby G and in comparison to someone like Sha who basically hasn't proven anything yet in 4 years whose best season we didn't even make the tournament. But if that's our standard for success, we are THINKING SMALL AT SETON HALL. And that is the problem.
 

hallwins

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What's incorrect though? Willard was good in comparison to bozos like Bobby G and in comparison to someone like Sha who basically hasn't proven anything yet in 4 years whose best season we didn't even make the tournament. But if that's our standard for success, we are THINKING SMALL AT SETON HALL. And that is the problem.
Willard was hired to coach Maryland and then Villanova. He is good compared to more people than Bobby G. Your take is not even close to objective.
 

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Willard was hired to coach Maryland and then Villanova. He is good compared to more people than Bobby G. Your take is not even close to objective.
A lot of coaches who underachieved in a less position have been taken a chance on by higher level schools. Can anyone really say you would sign up for a lifetime of Willard results at SHU? NOBODY will say yes to that. And nobody should. Here's another way to test it. Objectively, Willards final 4 years at SHU were far better than Holloway's first 4 at SHU. Yet, I'm sure almost nobody is sitting here opining the fact that we lost Willard (we all realize he hit his ceiling here), and if we move on from Sha, nobody is going to hope against hope that Willard will return or that we hire someone knowing their ceiling is what Willard did here. Willard was exactly what we needed to clean up Bobby G's mess in that immediate moment, but let's not pretend for even a minute that anyone should consider him as some kind of PJ Carlesimo god-mode coach or someone who can't be replaced. What NYSHOREGUY said was absolutely true. Willard objectively by the numbers was a marginal BigEast coach, exactly like he said. He mixed some success with some failure and ultimately was unable to make tournament runs and get wins against first round teams we should beat. A good BigEast coach simply cannot be described that way. Good BigEast coaches are ones who get wins when it matters, and that's in the tournament. Willard teams typically flopped when it mattered most, despite having a bunch of all-time SHU players.
 
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hallwins

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A lot of coaches who underachieved in a less position have been taken a chance on by higher level schools. Can anyone really say you would sign up for a lifetime of Willard results at SHU? NOBODY will say yes to that. And nobody should. Here's another way to test it. Objectively, Willards final 4 years at SHU were far better than Holloway's first 4 at SHU. Yet, I'm sure almost nobody is sitting here opining the fact that we lost Willard (we all realize he hit his ceiling here), and if we move on from Sha, nobody is going to hope against hope that Willard will return or that we hire someone knowing their ceiling is what Willard did here. Willard was exactly what we needed to clean up Bobby G's mess in that immediate moment, but let's not pretend for even a minute that anyone should consider him as some kind of PJ Carlesimo god-mode coach or someone who can't be replaced. What NYSHOREGUY said was absolutely true. Willard objectively by the numbers was a marginal BigEast coach, exactly like he said. He mixed some success with some failure and ultimately was unable to make tournament runs and get wins against first round teams we should beat. A good BigEast coach simply cannot be described that way. Good BigEast coaches are ones who get wins when it matters, and that's in the tournament. Willard teams typically flopped when it mattered most, despite having a bunch of all-time SHU players.
Willard is the best coach Seton Hall had since PJ. We routinely were in the tourney and his team with the best chance to do true damage in the tourney was lost to COVID. Making the tourney every year and being in huge match ups and regularly playing on Friday night of the BET, were huge measures of success. Particularly, from where the program had sunk.

I will say that PJ'S team always did damage in the tourney except the last year when we got in off reputation.

And by the way, plenty of people did not care about PJ leaving and actually were happy. I suspect if this board were around then, there would be plenty of posters who would have been of the same opinion.
 

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A lot of coaches who underachieved in a less position have been taken a chance on by higher level schools. Can anyone really say you would sign up for a lifetime of Willard results at SHU? NOBODY will say yes to that. And nobody should. Here's another way to test it. Objectively, Willards final 4 years at SHU were far better than Holloway's first 4 at SHU. Yet, I'm sure almost nobody is sitting here opining the fact that we lost Willard (we all realize he hit his ceiling here), and if we move on from Sha, nobody is going to hope against hope that Willard will return or that we hire someone knowing their ceiling is what Willard did here. Willard was exactly what we needed to clean up Bobby G's mess in that immediate moment, but let's not pretend for even a minute that anyone should consider him as some kind of PJ Carlesimo god-mode coach or someone who can't be replaced. What NYSHOREGUY said was absolutely true. Willard objectively by the numbers was a marginal BigEast coach, exactly like he said. He mixed some success with some failure and ultimately was unable to make tournament runs and get wins against first round teams we should beat. A good Big East coach simply cannot be described that way. Good Big East coaches are ones who get wins when it matters, and that's in the tournament. Willard teams typically flopped when it mattered most, despite having a bunch of all-time SHU players.
A small suggestion. Use paragraphs for easier reading. One gigantic paragraph is difficult to read.
 

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A lot of coaches who underachieved in a less position have been taken a chance on by higher level schools. Can anyone really say you would sign up for a lifetime of Willard results at SHU? NOBODY will say yes to that. And nobody should. Here's another way to test it. Objectively, Willards final 4 years at SHU were far better than Holloway's first 4 at SHU. Yet, I'm sure almost nobody is sitting here opining the fact that we lost Willard (we all realize he hit his ceiling here), and if we move on from Sha, nobody is going to hope against hope that Willard will return or that we hire someone knowing their ceiling is what Willard did here. Willard was exactly what we needed to clean up Bobby G's mess in that immediate moment, but let's not pretend for even a minute that anyone should consider him as some kind of PJ Carlesimo god-mode coach or someone who can't be replaced. What NYSHOREGUY said was absolutely true. Willard objectively by the numbers was a marginal BigEast coach, exactly like he said. He mixed some success with some failure and ultimately was unable to make tournament runs and get wins against first round teams we should beat. A good BigEast coach simply cannot be described that way. Good BigEast coaches are ones who get wins when it matters, and that's in the tournament. Willard teams typically flopped when it mattered most, despite having a bunch of all-time SHU players.
Willard was here for 12 seasons, and in that time:
  • 6 NCAA appearances (including 2020)
  • Since 2016 never finished lower than 5th, and no losing record
  • Big East Tournament championship & Regular season championship
  • 1st team all American & an honorable mention all American
  • Two Big East Player of the years
  • 5 players made it to NBA
  • Kareem Abdul Jabar and Jerry West award winners
Yes, I would sign up for a lifetime of those results. With all due respect I think it's irrational to suggest otherwise, and I think fans with higher expectations than that have an extreme false sense of reality as to what the seton hall job is.

The NCAA tourney is a crap shoot and has a lot to do with luck, but if you keep making the tournament with that type of consistency and you will eventually break through.
 

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A lot of coaches who underachieved in a less position have been taken a chance on by higher level schools. Can anyone really say you would sign up for a lifetime of Willard results at SHU? NOBODY will say yes to that. And nobody should. Here's another way to test it. Objectively, Willards final 4 years at SHU were far better than Holloway's first 4 at SHU. Yet, I'm sure almost nobody is sitting here opining the fact that we lost Willard (we all realize he hit his ceiling here), and if we move on from Sha, nobody is going to hope against hope that Willard will return or that we hire someone knowing their ceiling is what Willard did here. Willard was exactly what we needed to clean up Bobby G's mess in that immediate moment, but let's not pretend for even a minute that anyone should consider him as some kind of PJ Carlesimo god-mode coach or someone who can't be replaced. What NYSHOREGUY said was absolutely true. Willard objectively by the numbers was a marginal BigEast coach, exactly like he said. He mixed some success with some failure and ultimately was unable to make tournament runs and get wins against first round teams we should beat. A good BigEast coach simply cannot be described that way. Good BigEast coaches are ones who get wins when it matters, and that's in the tournament. Willard teams typically flopped when it mattered most, despite having a bunch of all-time SHU players.
How ridiculous is this. He hung two BE banners, five NCAAT banners and lost his best team to COVID. A fact that some posters convenient don’t mention. Yeah you could look at his overall record , figures don’t lie but liars figure. worst years were when he had to clean up Bobby G mess. What was his record from 2015-2016. Top tier BE at a perennially under resourced SHU at a time the league won two NCs.

And don’t create a straw dog. No one has ever said KW Was a PJ. That’s just lazy thinking. And even PJ had some awful years early in his tenure before he brought the HALL to the heights.

Schools like Maryland and Villanova don’t hire coaches who have hit their ceiling. He won three NCAAT games at Maryland and got to that elusive S16. Nova knows what they’re doing. I wonder about some posters.