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Nope. Ever since Saban shilled for Franklin in that interview on game day after Franklin was fired means Saban is shiite now. Saban has same agent as Franklin, Sexton, and of course he was going to bash PSU. We are not getting Hartline either because Hartline's agent works for Sexton's agency. PSU is screwed and Kraft's days are most likely numbered. However, Franklin needed to go because he gave up on the team which is pretty obvious if you think about it.
So Sexton and/or his agency would decline a massive pay raise for his client (OC to HC $$) simply because he has a huge grudge against our AD? Is that really the prevailing wisdom here? As if Kraft is the first AD to fire one of his guys. I suspect he didn’t climb to the top of the mountain by allowing petty disputes get in the way of huge paydays.
 
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Texas Lion

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That would be a cool "Fun Fact".... if it were anything close to being a fact - instead on abject nonsense. :)


I could probably list a half-dozen recent such cases..... JUST with Jimmy Sexton clients, and JUST in the SEC alone.
Where do people come up with this nonsense?

Butch Jones to Jeremy Pruitt
Jimbo Fisher to Willie Taggart (FSU, not SEC)
Jim McElwain to Dan Mullen
Hugh Freeze to Matt Luke

Took about 3 minutes to locate 4 - without really trying.
Better tell that to Tengwell, because that is where I got it.
 

Alphalion75

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Has any college football program in history had such a rapid decline in less than one season? We have gone from 1 play fron the NC game to 6-6, zero 2026 LOI recruits with no head coach.
 
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It seems like Kraft is in panic ego mode to me. He will likely try a few things: swing and maybe land or miss again on a decently big name, or have to do one of the following:
1. Hire Terry Smith to a short term deal while continuing to look at a long term answer over the next 24 months
2. Hire Manny Diaz away from Duke (he knows the recruiting area and the program)
3. Hire Al Golden (he has been a HC and beat PSU head to head last year, and knows the recruiting territory)

Those are the options, unless he can grab a Matt Campbell, Jeff Brohm, or someone of that ilk.

None of those are terrible options if I'm honest. Maybe Al Golden wouldn't be great, but at this point i'd probably take that over Daboll or some unproven guy.
 

Bwifan

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Agree about Saban

but to think Sexton would tell Hartline he can’t take a job that’s going to give him a $6-7 million dollar a year raise is ridiculous

people need to stop with this notion that Sexton is out to screw Penn state and / or Kraft.
Exactly... if my agent is turning down that large pay increase or coaching at a major college program out of spite, my agent is getting canned and he will also be losing a lot of clients due to his stupidity of turning down massive pay increases and promotions.
 
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Itraindogs

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I don’t quite get the interference from Sexton claims. Several coaches were fired but only Penn State gets Sexton’s wrath, all over Franklin? How does this make any sense?
It does not. I think this conspiracy theory stems from fans' disbelief that the value of the Penn State job is not what they believe it to me and that other nefarious forces are at work.
 

Sluggo52

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Face it. It's FUBAR. God Almighty couldn't fix this. Time to focus on wrestling or hockey.
 

PSUFTG

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Better tell that to Tengwell, because that is where I got it.
When it is abjectly and provably untrue, does it matter where you "get it"? (Where is The Rick when you need him? :) )

(If he indeed even said that - which I kind of doubt. He doesn't have a history or habit of making statements "of fact" that are so clearly untrue.)
 

taryn

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I don't get this at all. He's one of the best up and coming coordinators in college football. At one point, Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart, Lane Kiffin, Ryan Day, Kalen DeBoer, etc. were all up and coming coordinators. I get Kentucky football may not be Penn State, but the landscape is changing. Oh - and last time we played them they beat us.
follow Howie Roseman,draft the top schools players. i.e. get their coaches to PSU and sit back and enjoy! Why do you rob banks? THAT IS WERE THE MONEY IS KEPT!!!!!!
 
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Dbsteel

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Has any college football program in history had such a rapid decline in less than one season? We have gone from 1 play fron the NC game to 6-6, zero 2026 LOI recruits with no head coach.
Blame the AD.

I hated losing to those teams too, but that was a pure panic move. If the whole season was lost, or even if it went into next season, then you make a change.
 

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Agree, he should have grabbed Chesney. Wait and see who he gets.


Well, maybe-
I have no problem with Terry Smith being named HC and being given a very intermediate contract with a light buyout (UCLA reportedly only gave Chesney a 5 year contract @$6mm per year), but this should have been done weeks ago to give Terry a chance to keep as much of the roster and recruiting class as possible..... Kraft should be fired if the job is now given to Terry at this late date - he has made it about as difficult to succeed as an AD possibly could. Look at what 'Ole Miss did in an attempt to stabilize their roster. Just utterly ridiculous how Kraft has handled this.
 

PSUFTG

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Exactly... is my agent is turning down that large pay increase or coaching at a major college program out of spite, my agent is getting canned and he will also be losing a lot of clients due to his stupidity of turning down massive pay increases and promotions.
Yep

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
The contortions/excuse-making that many people will go through (especially sports fans) to ignore that which is obvious, but uncomfortable to their fandom, is truly limitless. It has been that way for a long time - and certainly not a trait limited to sports fans or to Penn State fans.
 
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Itraindogs

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If PSU wanted Chesney and outbid UCLA, and Chesney wanted to be at PSU, Sexton can’t stop it. I think much of this talk of Sexton’s grudge and power to screw PSU is mostly talk. What we saw is exactly what Franklin did…use a job offer to get a raise from the school you want to stay at. It’s not the curse of Sexton.
Its frankly nonsense. Just imagine a world where programs capitulate to agents on whether to keep or fire coaches, give them raises or extensions and so on. People are ascribing motives to Sexton that are simply unreasonable. What he wants is to get the biggest payday for his client so that he can cut himself a bigger commission check. Full stop. Only time his personal animus, if true, would factor in is if the money is the same and he is asked to weigh in. Surely this never happens: "Bob, I know PSU is offering 3m more per year to coach there, but I don't want you to take the job because they were mean to James." Lets get a grip
 

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Well, maybe-
I have no problem with Terry Smith being named HC and being given a very intermediate contract with a light buyout (UCLA reportedly only gave Chesney a 5 year contract @$6mm per year), but this should have been done weeks ago to give Terry a chance to keep as much of the roster and recruiting class as possible..... Kraft should be fired if the job is now given to Terry at this late date - he has made it about as difficult to succeed as an AD possibly could. Look at what 'Ole Miss did in an attempt to stabilize their roster. Just utterly ridiculous how Kraft has handled this.
Kraft’s ego won’t let him hire Smith. He is not going to be bullied by alumni, current players and lettermen. It just might be another assistant from the current staff.
 

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It seems like Kraft is in panic ego mode to me. He will likely try a few things: swing and maybe land or miss again on a decently big name, or have to do one of the following:
1. Hire Terry Smith to a short term deal while continuing to look at a long term answer over the next 24 months
2. Hire Manny Diaz away from Duke (he knows the recruiting area and the program)
3. Hire Al Golden (he has been a HC and beat PSU head to head last year, and knows the recruiting territory)

Those are the options, unless he can grab a Matt Campbell, Jeff Brohm, or someone of that ilk.

None of those are terrible options if I'm honest. Maybe Al Golden wouldn't be great, but at this point i'd probably take that over Daboll or some unproven guy.
They're terrible options if you're being paid $2.2m+ to do your job and locked in thru 2032.
 

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Not even being able to get Brohm, Campbell or anyone of that ilk is what's pitiful. Coaches would rather stay at places where there is no way of ever doing what could be done at Penn State. Louisville and Iowa State, even BYU is not going to probably even be what Indiana is this year since they're not even in a real conference, yet Penn State can't even get the coaches to come here?

What do they do, get in the interviews and warn them not to take the job? I've interviewed for things like that, where they say "this job will certainly be too hard, this is an awful place, are you sure you want to do this, etc.?" By the time it's over, yeah I'm almost glad to get that rejection or ghosting.
 

Texas Lion

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When it is abjectly and provably untrue, does it matter where you "get it"? (Where is The Rick when you need him? :) )

(If he indeed even said that - which I kind of doubt. He doesn't have a history or habit of making statements "of fact" that are so clearly untrue.)
he actually gave props to his producer for finding that.
 

Itraindogs

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This begs the question then why did Sexton's coaches all settle for less money with their extensions over what Kraft was or would have offered. I'm not saying you are incorrect but to me those seem to be unbelievable coincidences. Doubt Sexton is the complete Devil he's made out to be but he was a constant influence in most of Kraft's attempted hires, negative or positive I don't know.
IF what you claim is true, and the client's extension and salary were indeed less than what PSU offered (and I have no knowledge of this), do you really believe Sexton would take less money in commission just to punish Kraft. That makes zero sense.
 
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From the 'YEAH RIGHT WHAT A CROCK OF SH*T' Department:

Segment on ESPN's 'Get Up' just had Greeny, Finebaum, and a third talking head discussing PSU. The third talking head (don't know her name) said Sitake was 'one of two' PSU was targeting and that there is still great confidence that PSU will land the right coach. They mentioned the recruiting class and how much money PSU has to spend and then Finebaum shat all over it by saying PSU is a shell of it's former self and embarrassing. Welp.
 
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IF what you claim is true, and the client's extension and salary were indeed less than what PSU offered (and I have no knowledge of this), do you really believe Sexton would take less money in commission just to punish Kraft. That makes zero sense.

Look - agents are powerful, but they're also about money. This scenario imagines a world where some bean counting agent is telling a college football coach to take less money and commit to a lifestyle and job because he says so. I think Sexton can be difficult, but no way is he telling his guys to take less money at lesser programs because his bald client formerly of State College sh*t the bed this year and got canned for it. More likely? Kraft was swinging bigger and most of these guys were never really considered/offered.
 

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I could not agree more. Anyone from the outside could quantify all the reasons why going after the likes of Elko, Deboer, Meyer, Saban and so on were unrealistic options if not a waste of time. Kraft grossly miscalculated and from all accounts the program will be the worse for it. If he does not pull a rabbit out of a hat he will likely lose his job for this fiasco.

With no incoming class, near two dozen seniors leaving and the inevitable portal defections I am interested to see what kind of team takes the field next fall.

I hope he manages to right the ship, but at the moment it looks like it’s taking more and

Not even being able to get Brohm, Campbell or anyone of that ilk is what's pitiful. Coaches would rather stay at places where there is no way of ever doing what could be done at Penn State. Louisville and Iowa State, even BYU is not going to probably even be what Indiana is this year since they're not even in a real conference, yet Penn State can't even get the coaches to come here?

What do they do, get in the interviews and warn them not to take the job? I've interviewed for things like that, where they say "this job will certainly be too hard, this is an awful place, are you sure you want to do this, etc.?" By the time it's over, yeah I'm almost glad to get that rejection or ghosting.
Can’t believe I’m saying this but he’s worse than Sandy!
 

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So Sexton and/or his agency would decline a massive pay raise for his client (OC to HC $$) simply because he has a huge grudge against our AD? Is that really the prevailing wisdom here? As if Kraft is the first AD to fire one of his guys. I suspect he didn’t climb to the top of the mountain by allowing petty disputes get in the way of huge paydays.


I don't think Kraft's current pursuit will pan out. BYU has taken Sitake's salary to over 6 million removed two people who stood in his way on NIL and recruiting gave him NIL money that match's TT's will raise assistant salaries. All coming from the Mormon church which Sitake grew up in. Sitake a dedicated leader within the Mormon church at Salt Lake City, I still don't see him leaving. But it seems anything can happen at this point.

I was a long time Franklin supporter then he publicly dissed the university among other stupid things thereby setting himself on fire. Up until this point I have been a Kraft supporter and now it appears he may be flaming out. So, now anything could happen.
 

Midnighter

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James Franklin:

 

Bvillebaron

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This begs the question then why did Sexton's coaches all settle for less money with their extensions over what Kraft was or would have offered. I'm not saying you are incorrect but to me those seem to be unbelievable coincidences. Doubt Sexton is the complete Devil he's made out to be but he was a constant influence in most of Kraft's attempted hires, negative or positive I don't know.
They did? Source?
 

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From the 'YEAH RIGHT WHAT A CROCK OF SH*T' Department:

Segment on ESPN's 'Get Up' just had Greeny, Finebaum, and a third talking head discussing PSU. The third talking head (don't know her name) said Sitake was 'one of two' PSU was targeting and that there is still great confidence that PSU will land the right coach. They mentioned the recruiting class and how much money PSU has to spend and then Finebaum shat all over it by saying PSU is a shell of it's former self and embarrassing. Welp.
People forget in the Mormon faith is if the church calls you to an opening you are basically obligated to take it. Eagles had a real concern Andy Reid was going to leave them for BYU if the church called him. Back when BYU was in the cellar. People forget that part of the equation which is a very large one for those in the Mormon faith.
 

Midnighter

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People forget in the Mormon faith is if the church calls you to an opening you are basically obligated to take it. Eagles had a real concern Andy Reid was going to leave them for BYU if the church called him. Back when BYU was in the cellar. People forget that part of the equation which is a very large one for those in the Mormon faith.

Agree, but makes sense then that you don't pin the hopes and dreams and future of your billion dollar baby on a coach who could potentially have a biblical calling.
 

Bwifan

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Agree, but makes sense then that you don't pin the hopes and dreams and future of your billion dollar baby on a coach who could potentially have a biblical calling.
Agree totally. You don't put all your eggs in one basket with that hanging over you. If true I am glad Kraft at least kicked the tires.
 
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Bvillebaron

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Man Kraft has been too quiet we need something leaked

First day something gets leaked everybody wants him signed within 2 hours or Kraft is a failure 😂 holy **** you people are nuts and some of you are so entitled you think Penn State deserves Kirby Smart or you’re not satisfied. There were no home run hires this cycle besides maybe Kiffin who has never won anything significant.

Some of these people that thought Franklin was great 😂😂 yeah that’s why LSU, Auburn, and Florida wanted nothing to do with him and he had to settle for Virginia Tech. Also not worried about Penn State losing these kids this was shaping up to be one of the worst classes in awhile for us. It was probably going to finish in between 20-25th ranked wise
EXCUSE me. Speaking of entitled Kraft issued a press release which said Franklin was fired for not meeting Penn State’s “standard” of winning Big and National Championships and then held a press conference the next day and said the fans “deserve” a National Championship. Kraft is the one who created those expectations by opening his big mouth and since he’s had more than 7 weeks to find a replacement it’s time to back up that talk.
 
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I think it was time to cut bait with Franklin.

You don't fire a Top Coach, who has Top Classes coming in unless, and until, you have a very good idea.... and extremely confident.... that you are going to replace him with a new coach of equal, or better, standing in the profession. Just going around willy-nilly firing one of the 5 most successful coaches in FBS over the prior 3 years (thereby creating an instant competitor for your entire roster and classes) with zero idea of who you're going to replace them with is just plain incompetent management of the situation - not to mention beyond laughably stupid.

How Kraft even still has a job is baffling - he just made PSU the laughingstock of CFB by becoming the first team in CFB history to have no recruiting class for the upcoming season.
 

Bvillebaron

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So Sexton and/or his agency would decline a massive pay raise for his client (OC to HC $$) simply because he has a huge grudge against our AD? Is that really the prevailing wisdom here? As if Kraft is the first AD to fire one of his guys. I suspect he didn’t climb to the top of the mountain by allowing petty disputes get in the way of huge paydays.
BNGO
 

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So with Stein at Kentucky and Hartline heading to USF, we will get to see firsthand if their inexperience and rawness in being passed over was an accurate reading or a real misstep.