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barry j fenchak

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Talk about obsession, how about if some fans get over their Franklin Derangement Syndrome and stop trashing him at every turn more than 50 days after he was fired? As I have said repeatedly I have no problem with his firing, the problem is Kraft’s abject failure in hiring a replacement.
You've spent the last few YEARS spewing hate at anyone critical of BGJ, and you think a few days are going to balance that out? How precious. You will be seeing dead horses in your dreams for the next several years.
 

PSUSignore

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There is nobody. Are you guys late to this party?

I can't believe Kraft ever thought he had a shot at any of these guys playing into December. The amount of time wasted on Elko, Deboer, and Sitake is absolutely mind blowing.

I was never in the Chesney camp, but I'd double UCLA's offer and end this shitshow now.
Yep, ultimately I think this is what it came down to... wasted time. It does sound like Kraft had real discussions with Elko, Deboer, and Sitake but he missed on all 3 and spent the whole search window wooing these 3 so when the last one fell apart yesterday there was nothing left. Now Kraft looks like a fool. And with every passing day whomever we try to hire has more and more leverage. Now we will end up playing a mid tier coach $12M a year because Sexton will put the screws to Kraft knowing there aren't any other coaches out there to hire. Those of you that thought we were overpaying Franklin (we weren't) are in for a rude awakening with the next contract.
 

Lion84

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Talk about obsession, how about if some fans get over their Franklin Derangement Syndrome and stop trashing him at every turn more than 50 days after he was fired? As I have said repeatedly I have no problem with his firing, the problem is Kraft’s abject failure in hiring a replacement.
maybe it's Franklin has the obsession - he had Crumbl Cookies at the VT signing day event as a jab at PSU for not getting Sitake - kind of a dick more by your hero.
 

Psumatt85

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Yep, ultimately I think this is what it came down to... wasted time. It does sound like Kraft had real discussions with Elko, Deboer, and Sitake but he missed on all 3 and spent the whole search window wooing these 3 so when the last one fell apart yesterday there was nothing left. Now Kraft looks like a fool. And with every passing day whomever we try to hire has more and more leverage. Now we will end up playing a mid tier coach $12M a year because Sexton will put the screws to Kraft knowing there aren't any other coaches out there to hire. Those of you that thought we were overpaying Franklin (we weren't) are in for a rude awakening with the next contract.
Kraft more than looks the fool.
maybe it's Franklin has the obsession - he had Crumbl Cookies at the VT signing day event as a jab at PSU for not getting Sitake - kind of a dick more by your hero.
 
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I had opined from the start that Hartline won't accept the PSU job because it would be too much pressure for a new coach. At Blueblood schools like PSU and OSU, the demands are intense and the pressure unrelenting. These are places where you are expected to win every game and in the new CFP format, you will be expected to make the playoffs every season as well. Fans will not tolerate growing pains as the rookie adjusts to the HC role.

Hartline picked about as perfect a spot that can be picked for a rookie HC. The pressure is modest and the demands not through the stratosphere. Nobody expects you to win the Natty within a few years. Just getting to the playoffs in five or less seasons would make you a legend.
 

NittanyBoy88

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No issue firing Franklin, no issue not hiring Terry, no issue firing Kraft now either. All created their own fate. Now if you must hire Terry then fine, but he and PK can’t co-exist so PK must go.
 
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PSUwolf

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Uh.... how many P4 coaching jobs are currently open?

(I'll save you the time: 2 - PSU and Cal)

Getting a first HC gig at USF is a wonderful opportunity (and a tremendous endorsement) for an aspiring HC.
Hartline was certainly far more "in demand" than any HC PSU is going to end up with.
We'll see. I get that Hartline has a magical name when it comes to WRs-recruiting but he's only been calling offensive plays for 12 games now. I have to believe we end up with someone that is more capable than Hartline
 

Bvillebaron

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You've spent the last few YEARS spewing hate at anyone critical of BGJ, and you think a few days are going to balance that out? How precious. You will be seeing dead horses in your dreams for the next several years.
Must be a horrible burden to go through life claiming that someone who disagrees with them is “spewing hate”. Grab your binky and blanky, head for mommy’s basement and assume the fetal position until you feel better and/or grow a pair. By the way, since you were criticizing me for reading comprehension issues you should bone up on yours since I said repeatedly since the day he was fired that I had no problem with the firing.
 
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PSUPetch

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Talk about obsession, how about if some fans get over their Franklin Derangement Syndrome and stop trashing him at every turn more than 50 days after he was fired? As I have said repeatedly I have no problem with his firing, the problem is Kraft’s abject failure in hiring a replacement.
Why can't we do both? We can multitask.

Kraft has failed us thus far (hope it changes).
BGJ has acted and is acting like an ungrateful douche (what a shock).

I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbl's
 

Corner Room Breakfast

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maybe it's Franklin has the obsession - he had Crumbl Cookies at the VT signing day event as a jab at PSU for not getting Sitake - kind of a dick more by your hero.
PS is in his head, as much as Maryland was in his head. That's never a good thing, lack of focus,and
obsession with the past when the task at hand is running a football team.
I would like to know how many coaches out there never really liked him, i have two in mind and think
one of them could be our next HC.
 

Bvillebaron

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maybe it's Franklin has the obsession - he had Crumbl Cookies at the VT signing day event as a jab at PSU for not getting Sitake - kind of a dick more by your hero.
Franklin is not my hero. But kind of juvenile to claim that Franklin trolling over cookies is a dick move considering how he and his family were treated by some fans after the Northwestern game. Here’s a suggestion on how to respond which I fully endorse hire a damn coach, win those Big Ten and Nattys said we’re the standard and then troll Franklin as much as you want.
 

Bvillebaron

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PS is in his head, as much as Maryland was in his head. That's never a good thing, lack of focus,and
obsession with the past when the task at hand is running a football team.
I would like to know how many coaches out there never really liked him, i have two in mind and think
one of them could be our next HC.
And who would that be?
 

MacNit

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Well, I'm not sure at this point it would do any good or be respected by anyone who counts. I just surfed all over the net something I never do for reactions to our situation, Bendapudi and Kraft are literally being trashed everywhere PS is mentioned. They have become the PS evil doers in cyberspace.
Incompetence is not necessarily evil.
 
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Bwifan

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Reading the tea leaves and leaks I think Kraft made offers and got close to deals with Elko, Sitake, and Chesney at a minimum. Where he royally screwed up was by apparently refusing to seriously consider anyone without P4 head coaching experience aside from Chesney, who he kept on the back burner and lost by doing so. Stein or Hartline would have been perfectly acceptable hires. Conversations with others seemingly didn't pan out, or fell apart when those teams found success and no longer wanted to change jobs (Deboer). Why you'd put your fate in the hands of Auburn in the Iron Bowl I do not know, maybe because he felt he had Sitake in place by then.

He also seemingly had a verbal agreement with Sitake, which allowed BYU to come in and find the money in one day to get him to stay. Epic screw up there, you don't base the future of the program on a handshake, he needed a signed MOU with Sitake and while waiting around for that to close every other candidate he had been in talks with went to other jobs or signed extensions. He put all his eggs in one basket without a signature, and it blew up in his face the day before signing day, making PSU a laughingstock nationally and without time to get anyone in place for today. This is particularly egregious when you know you are negotiating with a former BYU letterman alum who has family ties to BYU and is a member of the LDS church. You have to know that Sitake has a massive emotional commitment to BYU, way too much of one to risk on a damn handshake. Epic, epic failure.
Exactly I think most would have been fine with Hartline or Stein. Not sure if it was just Kraft or Neeli and the BOT saying the next HC had to have HC experience. To me it's a ridiculous requirement if they did. Now they or PK is paying dearly for it.
 

PSUSignore

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It’s unbelievable that nobody in PSU leadership even attempts to put out a statement to the fans, alumni etc about where things stand and when this will be resolved. Yet these same people want every penny from you to keep a competitive roster?
What do you expect them to say? "Sorry, our bad, we whiffed on all of our top 5 candidates for the job. But hang in there, we have a new list of 5 (Hartline), 4 (Brohm), 3 more as of this afternoon! Please send money."
 
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But wait, they told me to fire Franklin???duh
Actually, Josh Pate had predicted this would happen. The day after, he said there is very little chance that Penn State would find a coach commensurate with Penn State's status in the word of CFB.

He stated, I quote, "When the music stops, Penn State is going to be left without a chair and they will have to shop the refurbished goods in the basement"
 
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OUIrPSU

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What do you expect them to say? "Sorry, our bad, we whiffed on all of our top 5 candidates for the job. But hang in there, we have a new list of 5 (Hartline), 4 (Brohm), 3 more as of this afternoon! Please send money."
Considering the amount of money these people earn, they absolutely should have put out a statement. I have no idea what it would say, but there are hundreds of thousands of alumni interested in this issue.
 

TheBigUglies

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Considering the amount of money these people earn, they absolutely should have put out a statement. I have no idea what it would say, but there are hundreds of thousands of alumni interested in this issue.
But that is not how PSU operates. Its all silence and let the national media drive the narrative.
 

LionsAndBears

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The best option at this point may be to give Terry a 5 year deal. We could probably get him to sign for less, while putting in some performance bonuses and structuring a smaller buyout. This would stabilize the roster, secure a great recruiter and provide an opportunity to bring all Penn Staters back into the fold again.
 

ps_1294

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Considering the amount of money these people earn, they absolutely should have put out a statement. I have no idea what it would say, but there are hundreds of thousands of alumni interested in this issue.
This is exactly correct. For nothing “official” to come out of the Athletic Department or above, is criminal.
 

PSU4U

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Incompetence is not necessarily evil.
True.

The thing I just don't get about Bendapudi, but first let me say I do not know the lady have never met the lady and only know one person who has met her, so I have no ax to grind where she is concerned. I see have read and heard that she is some special kind of ruthless and that she has been ruthless in her rise to where she is at this point in professional life. Given that the road apples are now beginning to splash up and stick to her she might want to put some of ruthlessness to good use where Kraft is concerned. If not outright fire him at least demand he make the easiest and most logical hire at this point. Especially since internally she has been one of Smiths biggest supporters.
 

PSUSignore

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PS is in his head, as much as Maryland was in his head. That's never a good thing, lack of focus,and
obsession with the past when the task at hand is running a football team.
I would like to know how many coaches out there never really liked him, i have two in mind and think
one of them could be our next HC.
Freeman for one seems to despise him.
 

OUIrPSU

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This is exactly correct. For nothing “official” to come out of the Athletic Department or above, is criminal.
Even something as simple as, "we understand there is a lot of concern among members of the PSU community, and will make an announcement shortly," would suffice. For now.
 

PSU4U

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Exactly I think most would have been fine with Hartline or Stein. Not sure if it was just Kraft or Neeli and the BOT saying the next HC had to have HC experience. To me it's a ridiculous requirement if they did. Now they or PK is paying dearly for it.
Been saying it for years there needs to be a complete house cleaning at PS top to bottom.
 

PSUSignore

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Considering the amount of money these people earn, they absolutely should have put out a statement. I have no idea what it would say, but there are hundreds of thousands of alumni interested in this issue.
If they actually do say something it's likely to be one of two things. Neither will do much to change the national narrative that PSU is a laughingstock.
1. Kraft has our full support.
2. Kraft has been fired.
 
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PSUPetch

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Franklin is not my hero. But kind of juvenile to claim that Franklin trolling over cookies is a dick move considering how he and his family were treated by some fans after the Northwestern game. Here’s a suggestion on how to respond which I fully endorse hire a damn coach, win those Big Ten and Nattys said we’re the standard and then troll Franklin as much as you want.
I hereby give permission to the PSU fanbase to pay me $50M and treat me poorly.
 

Catch1lion

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The Athletic 11th hour list for PSU- Monken, Smith, KDB ( somehow), Chesney(pull him away before he signs), Brohm ( before he said no), Matt Campbell. Chesney might take the least work since you were already in negotiation. Have to do some a$$ kissing.
Out of this list, I would hit Chesney, and Campbell. Can keep KDB in play since it he is in the long game. Have to press multiple fronts to get a solution. I would guess Smith isn't loving no offer as of yet.
 
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