I agree. I’d be happy with Campbell and I said so a few weeks ago. He would be an upgrade in coaching but he would probably have to up his game in recruiting to compete with the big boys in the B1G. Then again recruiting to Penn State with a bigger NIL checkbook should be easier than at Iowa St.
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Word on the street is that that 'keeping Terry' was a sticking point for at least one possible coach.
Interesting...
Does he have an agent? All I can get in a Google search is that he doesn’t have one.
At this point, we are in no position to have any impositions on a new hire. Suggesting to keep Terry for a smooth transition and team unity
(plus being a connection to lettermen)? Sure. Mandating it as a condition of hiring? No.
So I'm not so sure that really most of those "leaks" were real. Heck, they may have been planted by the coach's agents just to get contract extensions/raises.
That being said, at this point having leaks is real bad given the desperation. You really don't want anything to get out unless it's 100% done. I'm nervous about us knowing they are talking to Campbell - hope the offer is really so much that ISU has no prayer to come close.
Franklin was a good recruiter but not elite by any measure. We had the '18 class I think it was and the '22 class that were top 6-7 then all others were 10-16. I don't see our recruiting getting any worse than top 15 and certainly can see it being top 10. Remember there is NIL and the portal. We get a savvy GM, pay him well and talent will come to Penn State. Also, we know Franklin was not so great in managing the portal, NIL and players egos.
This idea that Franklin had this incredible ability to relate to players is also over blown and overrated in my opinion. Yeah he could connect with players. So can Campbell, for example. Those that want to further the narrative (recruiting will take a hit, Franklin walked on water with player relations) are the same group of people that are butt hurt Franklin was fired.
Bingo. My thoughts exactly. Campbell should have been in the top group of candidates. If somehow, Kraft doesn’t manage to f this up and we get Campbell, it’s a big plus. The downside is, as you said, it could have done much sooner with less damage to the image of the program. Don’t f this up Kraft. This is probably your last chance at someone other than Terry (Not saying I wouldn’t support Terry, as I would)
Then if he told Kraft he is coming it better be with his signature on a contract.
Let's see how it plays out before announcing we are not getting him.
Don’t play with our emotions at this point Dayton. Lol. I followed you down the Chesney hole and we were both left disappointed.
I don’t understand the concerns over Campbells ability to recruit. He’s been having to sell ISU, a middle of the pack school in Ames friggin’ Iowa. Just think of what he can do with PSU’s name-recognition, the BigTen and $$. I’d certainly have more faith in his ability to recruit in our area than Sitake would have.
I like Campbell. I brought him up about a month ago on this board I think.
If it was then PSU should have offered Terry a position in the athletic department with the same salary he currently has and let the new HC chose his staff.
Yes, I agree. Kraft cannot let him talk to the AD without a signed agreement. Hoping tomorrow the news is Campbell to Penn State.
From an optics standpoint, at least, we've bumbled this thing ... and we may be in an actual bad spot running out of options ... but we're not a crack ho desperate for our next fix, and willing to do anything to get it. If they feel that strongly about the next guy keeping Terry, I'm fine with that.
You thought you were going into the fighting hole and instead you ended up in the latrine trench.
If Kraft can salvage this debacle with the hiring of Campbell, he would save face to a large degree. I think we would like him a lot. He seems like a non nonsense, not flashy, pure football guy. At least, that’s the impression I get of him. I’m really hoping this works out.
I'm somewhere between your position and Ludd's. I think there is a possibility for recruiting to take a hit if the hire is not a very high-level recruiter, but I also think the PSU brand is big enough to not have to worry about slipping into the 30's (I think that's wild). I fully admit that it completely remains to be seen what someone like Campbell can do with the brand of Penn State and the NIL resources behind it. I assume that whoever Kraft hires, based on things Kraft himself has said, will take a slightly more aggressive approach to NIL in regards to recruiting new players.
Amazing he’s made millions and won a lot of games for not knowing how to coach. It’s actually people sitting at home posting on a message board that don’t know how to coach.
Yes we were and I hope we won't be disappointed by Campbell staying at ISU. I sure hope PSU can hire him.
Or he was a good recruiter because he’s a great communicator and good at connecting with athletes.
So, about halfway through the search?
Good on you. I was hoping for Chesney but woul still be very happy with Campbell
James Franklin: “Obviously, I have a ton of respect for Matt Campbell.”
Maybe, just maybe, Franklin’s ability to recruit higher classes was hampered by being at Penn State…as we’re seeing with the coaching search, Penn State is not the dream destination many on here are making it out to be. Maybe we were only 10-16 because Franklin was such a great recruiter. He likely won’t have top 5 classes at Va Tech either, bet he’s at 20 this year and that’s really good for Va Tech.
Iowa State Cyclones Facing Pressure From Penn State Nittany Lions Pursuing Head Coach
The Iowa State Cyclones just had one of the most successful signing days in program history. Matt Campbell and his staff brought on a ton of high school prospec
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Kraft will f it up. He doesn’t have it locked up before Campbell is meeting with the president, so it’s obvious he hasn’t learned anything.
Kraft did not get a signature before Campbell meets with the president of Iowa State….didnt Kraft go through this already and he didn’t learn anything. I think we know how this will play out.
Penn State: Pros And Cons to Matt Campbell | Nittany Sports Now
Take it with a grain of salt— especially given recent events— but Matt Campbell is the favorite for the Penn State head coaching job.
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The coaching search has been bumbled by Kraft. No other school got any candidates that were all that remarkable outside of Kiffin. It is a name school, on TV a ton, plenty of NFL alumni. The You can argue its more like top 15 than top 10 but it is silly to suggest it isn't a name program that will help with recruiting.
No one is suggesting PSU is in the Ohio St/Georgia/Alabama tier.
The amount of money he made has no correlation to how good a coach he is. How many coaches got fired in the last month were making minimum wage? Ask Bian Kelly.
If you get to the point of making millions, you know how to coach…period, end of story. There are a gazillion football coaches out there and only a handful get to the top of the mountain and to think they get there by not knowing how to coach is just plain idiocy.