OT: 2022-23 NHL thread….Devils & Rangers & Islanders
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Kravstov should have a bunch of assists since he was put on that line, but Trochek is struggling.
I don’t know if the league keeps track if the number of posts hit, but Trochek has to be leading the league.
Lafreniere had a couple of nice deflections that Oettinger made nice saves on, but he still looks slow.
Tough game to judge too much on offense, because Dallas is incredible at defending.
I am getting increasingly worried that Miller might be a guy another team thinks is worth the rare offer sheet.
I hope they've seen enough to try and sign him LT vs. going the bridge deal route. He hasn't produced as many points as Fox, which tends to be disproportionately impactful in contract numbers, but I'd do whatever I needed to roster wise to make that cap number work in ST.
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Hes so good, and schneider is really coming along nicely too.
Rangers are an absolute cap hell this summer.
Kandre aint leaving though,
A) hes a priority
B) he LOVES the city
C) offer sheets basically arent real haha
The problem is, the going rate for the top defensive defensemen is 5.5 to 6, and for offensive defensemen 8.5 to 9.5.
I think the Rangers would be happy with 6.5-7 for Miller because he doesn’t have the great offensive numbers because he isn’t on the power play, but I wouldn’t do that if I was Miller. They may have to do a bridge.
It would only be cap hell this summer if they refuse to trade Goodrow.
Dumping Goodrow and replacing him with someone paid like a 4th liner, replacing Halak with a minimum goalie, replacing Blais and Reaves with $1 million or less players, and the dead money for guys like Girardi finally ending frees up almost $8 million.
Their problem is that Miller and Chytil will not want to take deals that are lesser because of how they are used on the Rangers when they are used incorrectly.
If you can find some to take his contract off your hands, after this season he will still have four years left at $3.6M a year. Cap hit might not be an issue but the length could be.
Miller is still getting 25 minutes a night and believe it or not Krup, players don’t fixate much on coaching strategy.
It’s why Judge returned to the Yankees, he loves Boone and regardless how the world was screaming at Boone’s use of bullpen and lineups….the players love him
Judge from day one said no Boone, no Judge.
I sometimes forget how interesting and cool and lucky we are to have a true ex-pro on this site. Thanks buddy.
Why I am saying Miller would take deployment into account is that the salary difference between a top defensive defenseman and a good defensive defenseman who scores 50-60+ points is $3-4 million a year.
The only thing keeping Miller from getting into that second category is the Rangers’ insistence on playing Trouba on the power play instead of him,
To be fair, if he replaces Trouba on PP2 he's still not getting there given the ice time that unit gets.
I wouldn't take it if I were Miller, but they somehow landed McD and Skjei to those deals so it's not impossible.
He is on pace for about 40 even strength points, which is great for a defenseman. Trouba had one year at 50 after being on the first power play in Winnipeg and the Rangers paid him like an offensive defenseman.
If Miller likes it here that much, hopefully they can work out a bridge deal. The cap will start going up soon, and some of their long term deals become moveable in a year or two,
Yeah Troub's deal is the counter argument to my reference to McD and Brady deals.
I just love the kid. Was always a bit skeptical he'd never live up to the hype that came with him from the draft - because there was just so much of it - but he has and he just continues to get better and better (despite his partner). I feel like he isn't even scratching the surface of what he's capable of yet.
Pretty much the exact opposite of how I feel with Laf (although I do agree he tends to get a disproportionate amount of crap from fanbase).
I’m hard on Laf, but you’d think the #1 pick in the draft in year 3 would have carried the puck through the neutral zone and wowed me with an intuitive offensive move by now.
1st round picks do it by accident from instincts and talent.
No speed really allows D men to put the clamps on him.
They seem to play a lot of early games on Sundays. I hate it, because even taking football out if it I am just used to 7-10ish being the time I watch hockey and I miss a lot of day games because of other commitments.
Plus RU bball at 2 — at least that one will be over before the Giants game starts, but there’s going to be a lot to keep track of tomorrow.
You might want to forget the Rangers are playing tomorrow anyway.
Last week, after passing up all year the chance to waiver claim some fallen prospects that maybe could be salvaged like Eeli Tolvanen or Martin Kaut, the Rangers finally claimed the completely horrible Jake Lecschyzn who Gallant has a history with.
Anyway, Kreider and Gauthier are out tomorrow so the Rangers are icing two of the worst forwards in the league in Blais and Lecschyzn and a bunch of the other guys on the team are fighting a stomach bug.
It’s the Canadians so they could still win, but it might be a pretty ugly game.
I guess Jack got some of the real sun kissed vitamin D he’s been needing.
Most definitely! He is playing like he is going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. Most certainly if he keeps close to this pace, an actual generational talent.
Really I must have missed it. When he was drafted many of the commentators made a point to say while he is very good, he is not a generation talent.
A quiet game against L.A., only 2 assists
, if he can bottle this performance long-term, he will be a superstar. I think he can. The future is bright 
, they say Luke is supposed to be the best Hughes, I really hope so.
Well I said there is the possibility of that happening.Really I must have missed it. When he was drafted many of the commentators made a point to say while he is very good, he is not a generation talent.
A quiet game against L.A., only 2 assists
A little more filling out along with staying healthy will do a lot for that.
The phrase generational talent is very overused. A generation is understood to be roughly 20-30 years.
Stick with the idea that Hughes looks like he might be one of the best players in the league for a while.
Trying to sell the idea that he will be the best player we will see in the couple decade time period that includes a lot of great players, but especially McDavid, is ridiculous.
Now THIS will be a fun discussion, lol.
First, agree the phrase “generational” is way overused. But, if we ONLY pick the best player, than you are leaving out either Gretzky or Lemieux. I have a problem with that.
Plus, IMO, this current generational story is still being told. It is quite possible that Hughes is added to the list. Not probable…but possible.
Just off the top of my head, here are some completely arbitrary “generation“ cut offs and some of the best players during that time. Tear it apart, haha!
40-60: Richard, Howe, Hull, Orr
70-90: Lafleur, Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr
00-20: Crosby, Ovechkin, McDavid, ??
I would also like to mention, IMO, the best goalie ever born, Hasek, somewhere.