OT: 2022-23 NHL thread….Devils & Rangers & Islanders

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I wonder if Kyk was leading the boos when the ranger fans were booing their own team?
He should've been. It's completely unacceptable to have no game plan on entering the zone against a trap. This is a stock strategy for 20 years now. Fire Turk now.
 
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This is going down in such an embarrassing way that my wish of Gallant being fired has to come true.
Explain to me how every d-zone face off they win they still struggle to exit the zone, yet every other team in the league does it with ease
 
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TM94goRU

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Nice win, please keep proving me wrong. Akira "Samurai" Schmid certainly looks the part, of a great starting goalie.

Now go back to Newark and show you can win at home. Very funny to think about clueless Ruff making Seiganthaler a healthy scratch in Game 2.
 

krup

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Explain to me how every d-zone face off they win they still struggle to exit the zone, yet every other team in the league does it with ease
When they evaluate defensemen they overvalue size and toughness over the ability to handle the puck to exit and enter the zone.. That is why Schneider, who struggles with the puck in his own end, is paired with a big guy rather than Zac Jones who would complement him and get the puck out of trouble.
 
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That was embarrassing. It almost looked like they didnt care to be on the ice. Couldve put me in net and devs win. 2 total high danger scoring chances.

Kakko to start the game and the trocheck goal
 

zappaa

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When they evaluate defensemen they overvalue size and toughness over the ability to handle the puck to exit and enter the zone.. That is why Schneider, who struggles with the puck in his own end, is paired with a big guy rather than Zac Jones who would complement him and get the puck out of trouble.
Zac would get eaten alive too, it’s the system Krup.
Opposing teams after losing the offensive draw don’t skate out of the zone and allow defenseman to pick and choose their option with huge amounts of time and space.
When the Rangers win the defensive draw. their defensemen are met with 3 forecheckers and two defensemen holding the blue line.
When the Rangers lose an offensive draw they retreat
 

zappaa

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That was embarrassing. It almost looked like they didnt care to be on the ice. Couldve put me in net and devs win. 2 total high danger scoring chances.

Kakko to start the game and the trocheck goal
Yup.
We have no pinch on the reverse side of the puck.
Gallant insists on keeping the offside defensemen high
When the Devils reverse the puck, their winger has zero pressure on him.
Not to mention our circle back system allows the opposing team to set up their forecheck.
 

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Kyk - watching game on tv, crowd sounded dead the whole game. Rangers played like this was a game vs San Jose in January. Didn’t see any intensity / desire etc.
 

zappaa

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Explain to me how every d-zone face off they win they still struggle to exit the zone, yet every other team in the league does it with ease
Because we circle back like jackasses and sit behind the net, we allow opponents to set up.
The Devils do the opposite and spring their forwards out immediately…it’s one quick pass and out
 
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Kyk - watching game on tv, crowd sounded dead the whole game. Rangers played like this was a game vs San Jose in January. Didn’t see any intensity / desire etc.
It was dead. Never seen a playoff game that dead. Felt like seton hall at Rutgers bball this year. Silent, team never gave the fans anything to cheer for
 

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Panic time for the Rangers. Team looks stunned and in the postgame Lundquist and Valloquette looked like they had seen a ghost.
 
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Because we circle back like jackasses and sit behind the net, we allow opponents to set up.
The Devils do the opposite and spring their forwards out immediately…it’s one quick pass and out
People can say allll they want about AV but that man could coach offensive hockey. Theres a reason hes one of the winningest coaches in league history and got us to a cup final and an ECF.
 
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I can’t wait for Gallant to be gone.
I genuinely believe unless we win the cup hes gone.

Well, if we lose in 6 or 7 in cup final he comes back but on a VERY short leash.

The fact he publicly says that he doesnt believe in matching lines is insane
 

RUinBoston

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I can’t wait for Gallant to be gone.
For ***'s sake, Gallant has been coach for 2 years, and the Rangers finished with over 100 points those 2 years in a row ..... for the third time in their HISTORY... Yes, let's fire that guy ASAP. What exactly is it you guys expect? I get that it's distasteful finishing behind the Devils, but, come on....
 

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For ***'s sake, Gallant has been coach for 2 years, and the Rangers finished with over 100 points those 2 years in a row ..... for the third time in their HISTORY... Yes, let's fire that guy ASAP. What exactly is it you guys expect? I get that it's distasteful finishing behind the Devils, but, come on....
Nothing to do with finishing behind the Devils. Devils are having an incredible season, hats off to them.

The Rangers have amassed an insane amount of talent. If you watch this team every day all season long, you see that talent overcoming a system that plays scared. Read posts from @zappaa and @krup for details; no need to rehash them here.

Gallant is not the reason the Rangers put together 2 solid seasons. He’s the reason those two seasons didn’t go further (and yes, this year’s outcome is still up in the air).
 
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For ***'s sake, Gallant has been coach for 2 years, and the Rangers finished with over 100 points those 2 years in a row ..... for the third time in their HISTORY... Yes, let's fire that guy ASAP. What exactly is it you guys expect? I get that it's distasteful finishing behind the Devils, but, come on....
Have u watched the rangers? Why did florida and vegas fire him?
 

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That’s not true at all. The Rangers are playing nowhere near as responsibly on offense as they were earlier in the series. Their giveaways and easily broken up cross ice passes are playing right into the Devils strength of fast breakouts.

1000% true. Devils were trying to be too physical first two games. Finally playing their game
 

krup

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For ***'s sake, Gallant has been coach for 2 years, and the Rangers finished with over 100 points those 2 years in a row ..... for the third time in their HISTORY... Yes, let's fire that guy ASAP. What exactly is it you guys expect? I get that it's distasteful finishing behind the Devils, but, come on....
What are the great coaching decisions you can point to that led to those two great seasons?
 

krup

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Zac would get eaten alive too, it’s the system Krup.
Opposing teams after losing the offensive draw don’t skate out of the zone and allow defenseman to pick and choose their option with huge amounts of time and space.
When the Rangers win the defensive draw. their defensemen are met with 3 forecheckers and two defensemen holding the blue line.
When the Rangers lose an offensive draw they retreat
I agree that Jones would get pounded by the part of the Rangers’ system that just lets the other team get the blue line.

When the Rangers get the puck in the defensive zone, he would be the closest thing to Fox moving it out, though.
 

krup

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Have u watched the rangers? Why did florida and vegas fire him?
If you listen to fans of those teams, the exact same reasons Ranger fans are mad at him. An over reliance on certain favorite players regardless of how well they happen to be performing, and absolutely no adjustments as game situations change.
 
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zappaa

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This has to be hard for Chris Drury to watch.
His nephew plays on a team that employs the same system as the Bruins, Devils and Lightning.
They may be minus a few offensive players now, but the Canes are tough to play against.
 

krup

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This has to be hard for Chris Drury to watch.
His nephew plays on a team that employs the same system as the Bruins, Devils and Lightning.
They may be minus a few offensive players now, but the Canes are tough to play against.
That’s really what it comes down to. The Rangers have a ton of talent and can win a lot of games just using that, but a team with a good structure can shut them down, they become very easy to play against, and their coach doesn’t have a clue to get them out if it.

Listen to his comments about last night. They are all about effort , which of course needs to be better, but he’s got nothing on how to play differently to counter how the Devils are playing and worse I don’t even think he believes they need to change (he also thinks they played great in Game 3 which is nuts, but they looked like they were trying harder in that game which is all he notices).

The Rangers only recover here if some individual players are able to use their talent to make individual plays to make something happen, because the coach isn’t go to do anything to change the momentum.
 

zappaa

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That’s really what it comes down to. The Rangers have a ton of talent and can win a lot of games just using that, but a team with a good structure can shut them down, they become very easy to play against, and their coach doesn’t have a clue to get them out if it.

Listen to his comments about last night. They are all about effort , which of course needs to be better, but he’s got nothing on how to play differently to counter how the Devils are playing and worse I don’t even think he believes they need to change (he also thinks they played great in Game 3 which is nuts, but they looked like they were trying harder in that game which is all he notices).

The Rangers only recover here if some individual players are able to use their talent to make individual plays to make something happen, because the coach isn’t go to do anything to change the momentum.
Well said.
When the opposition is all over your breakout and you can’t get through the neutral zone, no amount of energy or effort is going to change it,
You need to combat the pressure with a strategy.
Circling back, forwards and defenseman constantly reversing the puck, sitting behind the net allowing the Devils to set up their structure even after a change ain’t it.
By the way our Dump and chase is so out of sync it’s nothing but a turnover, if we chase it, it’s a 3 on 1 the other way..

I have no doubt this is what GG wants and practices, the 5 man unit, sit behind the net, wingers circling back DOES NOT work in the modern NHL.
 
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zappaa

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Think the Devs finally playing to their strengths might have something to do with it? Give credit where it's due.
I said Rangers were the better team by far first 2. The kids are getting the gist of playoff hockey. Like Akira in goal. Very poised for a young guy.
Agreed, Devils adjusted, Rangers did not.
I played a game at the highest level. rarely if ever did it come down to lack of effort… it came down to no plan or strategy to counter.
Devils first two loses had zero to do with effort