Royce Brook is reducing to 18 holes combining some holes from each course. Part of the current property will be new housing. I’ve played the West (private) a few times and the East (public) many times. I really enjoy the East layout and will miss it. Some fun holes.
OT: 2023 Golf Thread
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First time out, so I wouldn't put a ton of stock in prelim ratings but yeah, not good. It didn't help that the big names like DJ and Koepka and DeChambeau were largely non-factors in the event.
I suspect the ratings will grow, especially when they start playing US courses. How much better? Who knows but it better get better, much better.
Bizarrely, I watched some of the Honda too. Typically, I wouldn't have tuned it but I was curious about the LIV final day and ended up watching a bit of both.
The end of the Honda was entertaining, granted between two lesser known guys. Cole really blew it on 18 with that chip.
That sucks. RB was a cool pair of courses.
Stand by for: New homeowners want golf shut down due to golf balls in their back yards.
I checked the leaderboard at the Honda and decided to do something else.
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Very sad to see the land getting plowed under for cluster housing. Hillsborough royally messed up their fair share housing plans over the years. Now they are suffering the consequences.
I enjoy watching LIV via YouTube with their 15-min highlight videos of each day. Their live streams were good as well, since you have control on what you see (but it seems like live streams are done due to the CW broadcast).
I normally won't watch too much golf unless it is a major.
In the past PXG golf clubs were 2-3 times more expensive than top brands like Callaway, Titleist, etc. That has now changed.
A friend just purchased a Gen 5 game improvement set with 13 clubs and a golf bag, including Driver, 3W, 2 hybrids, 6-SW, 58w and putter. Included was a 2 hour fitting with testing of various shaft options, multiple putter options, full swing analytics and adjustment of lie for each iron. Shaft lengths were also customized.
Total cost is $3K with one week delivery. Military veterans receive a 50% discount. Sounds like a fair option to off the rack brands that most of us play.
A friend just purchased a Gen 5 game improvement set with 13 clubs and a golf bag, including Driver, 3W, 2 hybrids, 6-SW, 58w and putter. Included was a 2 hour fitting with testing of various shaft options, multiple putter options, full swing analytics and adjustment of lie for each iron. Shaft lengths were also customized.
Total cost is $3K with one week delivery. Military veterans receive a 50% discount. Sounds like a fair option to off the rack brands that most of us play.
I don't think I have purchased off the rack without some sort of fitting since the 90's. A PXG store opened up in Paramus NJ by me. I need to check it out. Was just fitted for some new irons and was fitted to Mizuno Pro 223's. I thought JPX923 Forged was going to be the club but this was the winner after hitting similar clubs from TaylorMade, PING, Srixon & Callaway.
They offer cheap clubs. My COVID purchase was an off the rack 0211 irons. It was $79 per club. I don’t love them but certainly offers more than my MX23 that were 10+ years old.
Cam and DJ will be playing a 54 hole shotgun. How are they supposed to win?It will be interesting when Cam and DJ win 3 of the 4 majors this year.
Can we please keep the politics out of this? Seriously. Just totally unnecessary.
Got fitted 12 years ago (Titleist AP1... or whatever the non blade one was). Went ten years with those clubs, then went again (Golftec). Loved hitting the different manufacturers and seeing the numbers, dispersion, distance etc. Went in thinking Mizuno, but stayed with the Titleist (T300) as they were a just a hair tighter and the feel was more to my liking. Shots were also a whole club longer than my old ones. My specs stayed the same though, but still not buying off the rack.
Got fitted 12 years ago (Titleist AP1... or whatever the non blade one was). Went ten years with those clubs, then went again (Golftec). Loved hitting the different manufacturers and seeing the numbers, dispersion, distance etc. Went in thinking Mizuno, but stayed with the Titleist (T300) as they were a just a hair tighter and the feel was more to my liking. Shots were also a whole club longer than my old ones. My specs stayed the same though, but still not buying off the rack.
Looks like the penny pinching has started with LIV.
According to Shipnuck, there are new travel policies in place. Before, LIV covered the travel/hotel costs of everyone involved. Now, they are making the teams foot the bills. For this year, they were given a stipend but the plan is for 2024, the travel costs for caddies and players have to be paid by the golfers out of team funds won by the team.
For example, Koepka is allotting a lump sum for travel for each player on his team. If that player burns through it, he's then on the hook to cover travel expenses out of his own pocket.
Conversely, the PGA Tour looks to change the format of some, if not all of their designated events, going to a small field with no cut. Apparently, the policy board's decision has had mixed reactions from some golfers as well as media types, etc.
According to Shipnuck, there are new travel policies in place. Before, LIV covered the travel/hotel costs of everyone involved. Now, they are making the teams foot the bills. For this year, they were given a stipend but the plan is for 2024, the travel costs for caddies and players have to be paid by the golfers out of team funds won by the team.
For example, Koepka is allotting a lump sum for travel for each player on his team. If that player burns through it, he's then on the hook to cover travel expenses out of his own pocket.
Conversely, the PGA Tour looks to change the format of some, if not all of their designated events, going to a small field with no cut. Apparently, the policy board's decision has had mixed reactions from some golfers as well as media types, etc.
Hope PGA only does a select few small field events. I love the underdog stories.
Is the PGA Tour really creating smaller events to pay their players large amounts? And will they be no cut? If so, what’s the point and motivation if you are way back? Hopefully moving up for a bigger payout? PGA Tour stats show it’s virtually impossible to come back from a missed cut position to win. Just a money grab to appease their top players.
Yup, following LIV’s footsteps. Not a great idea but I get why they have to do it. Hope it’s just a select few events.
I just read on ESPN sounds like 8. That seems like a lot. Also, it seems like they are eliminating the requirement to play certain tournaments. And the benefit to the guys to finish appears to be more FedEx points (as opposed to team concept like LIV). I already hate the playoffs so to me this is dumb. They are taking care of the top guys (which I get). I guess this helps the lower ranked players since the top guys will not be in many lower level tournaments so they have a better chance to win, but maybe not to make the playoffs.
The only difference is that top players are based on current performance instead of “names”.
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Regarding LIV Golf, fans don’t want a 54 hole shotgun start exhibition, that is only about $$. They want what you saw at the US Open: A 72-hole grind among the titans of the game…where winning the title means everything.
5:10 AM · Jun 20, 2022
Start of Bay Hill today. Rahm at -7 to lead by 2. Rough is pretty thick but they are scoring very well.
If the winds don’t pick up this weekend the leaders will be >20 under on Sunday.
43 of the top 50 players in the field.
If the winds don’t pick up this weekend the leaders will be >20 under on Sunday.
43 of the top 50 players in the field.
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LIV forces the PGA to make the changes the players have wanted for years. The Great Shark wins. LIV becomes unnecessary afterwards. Fans and players live happily ever after.
Shark already won, the LIV shown him the money and he became their carnival barker.
His gof career was over, so being a well paid front-man paid the bills..
As for the LIV folding, think he Saudis won't let it fall because of pride and having the funds to take a.loss, forcing the PGA to pay more than it wants to fight them and deciding to negotiate a deal to co exist in a non competitive setting
.But the courts might put a damper on that idea if they stick to forcing Saudi officials to testify in the lawsuit like the PGA wants.
Then the Saudis might just decide to disband the LIV and with no tour their testimoney won't be needed .
PGA then becomes the only major golf tour again.which is what they were after when they started fighting the LIV .
They have pull the plug on others already. If they can’t show a path to self sustaining, it’s buh bye time. Based on last weeks ratings, it’s DOA
When the LIV eventually fails, will be interesting to see if the younger players are allowed back on the PGA tour. I assume the older guys will try to play the senior tour. However I have a feeling some may have to play the DP Tour. Hopefully they come to some agreement.
You keep saying that over and over again to nauseum. This was never about making money or trying to take over the PGA. Never. This is about changing their image. If they make money after a few years that is a bonus. Stop being so stupid.
Who cares? You should know better if you do business with them. It's not the same thing. This is a PR thing. Same as the many UAE ventures into sports.