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Doctor Worm

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You know the media would have loved to make her the face of a win. And she had her chances. She had two chances for our backs, multiple corners and a PK and she failed miserably with every one. It’s actually funny, if you read articles about the game most fail to even mention her missed PK but mention the others. Espn changed her game rating from a miserable 2 to NR. Curios
You are entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts. Her rating was and is 2.

 
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She couldn’t even reach the goal on corners or execute a set piece. And she completely misplayed that long ball down near the goal. The whole thing is a f’in joke.

But at least she checked a box!
 

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You are entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts. Her rating was and is 2.

Then it was changed back. Maybe because of blowback from comments
And here’s NPR. Whose miss was left out?

The U.S. would kick first - Andi Sullivan calmly struck the ball low and to the left just out of Mušović's reach. Sweden answered to make it 1-1. U.S. captain Lindsey Horan powered her kick in to make it 2-1. Sweden evened it to 2-2.

And that's when the drama really began. Kristie Mewis subbed into the game in the final minute of extra time, making her Women's World Cup debut. Her first touch came on the penalty shot — which she made.

Sweden's next shot sailed over the crossbar. But then so did the next U.S. kick and then another. U.S. keeper Alyssa Naeher managed a save and then took a penalty shot of her own - keeping the U.S. in it.
Kelly O'Hara, another last minute sub in extra time, saw her kick bounce off the post. It would come down to Lina Hurtig. Her shot - swatted by Naeher who thought she'd saved it - somehow passed just across the line.

There was another article that stated ephemeral she was subbed in the US attack got stronger. Really? And that article also didn’t mention her PK.
 
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Then it was changed back. Maybe because of blowback from comments
And here’s NPR. Whose miss was left out?

The U.S. would kick first - Andi Sullivan calmly struck the ball low and to the left just out of Mušović's reach. Sweden answered to make it 1-1. U.S. captain Lindsey Horan powered her kick in to make it 2-1. Sweden evened it to 2-2.

And that's when the drama really began. Kristie Mewis subbed into the game in the final minute of extra time, making her Women's World Cup debut. Her first touch came on the penalty shot — which she made.

Sweden's next shot sailed over the crossbar. But then so did the next U.S. kick and then another. U.S. keeper Alyssa Naeher managed a save and then took a penalty shot of her own - keeping the U.S. in it.
Kelly O'Hara, another last minute sub in extra time, saw her kick bounce off the post. It would come down to Lina Hurtig. Her shot - swatted by Naeher who thought she'd saved it - somehow passed just across the line.

There was another article that stated ephemeral she was subbed in the US attack got stronger. Really? And that article also didn’t mention her PK.
Whose miss was left out? Megan Rapinoe and Sophia Smith - the latter apparently escaped your notice.
 

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LOL. Why so angry?
That there is some hilarious irony.

We were talking nothing but soccer in here and a bunch of CE "regulars" hopped in to get their angry obsessive hate on over some players they don't like. Just like they do all day on the CE board about everything.

"Ooooh, those girls don't think like us - they suck and I'm soooo happy they lost." 🤣 Hell, one guy wished Rapinoe would die. Apparently, it's a capital crime not to think like that guy. We're all gonna have to start wearing body armor around him in case we ever disagree with him about something. LOL

For sure somebody's angry in this thread but it sure ain't the guys discussing soccer. 😉
 

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She couldn’t even reach the goal on corners or execute a set piece. And she completely misplayed that long ball down near the goal. The whole thing is a f’in joke.
Those short corners were set plays - to think she can't reach the goal is just dumb. She did misplay that long ball though.
 
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You know the media would have loved to make her the face of a win. And she had her chances. She had two chances for our backs, multiple corners and a PK and she failed miserably with every one. It’s actually funny, if you read articles about the game most fail to even mention her missed PK but mention the others. Espn changed her game rating from a miserable 2 to NR. Curios
I've read two articles this morning by MSM (including dbag Politi) and the gaslighting is strong, the talking point is Americans who are sick of Rapinoe's ******** are nothing but bullies, it never occurred to them that maybe she's a narcissistic *******.

She's hated not because of her politics but how she carries herself, though her stance on transgenders playing against females is disgusting.
 

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That there is some hilarious irony.

We were talking nothing but soccer in here and a bunch of CE "regulars" hopped in to get their angry obsessive hate on over some players they don't like. Just like they do all day on the CE board about everything.

"Ooooh, those girls don't think like us - they suck and I'm soooo happy they lost." 🤣 Hell, one guy wished Rapinoe would die. Apparently, it's a capital crime not to think like that guy. We're all gonna have to start wearing body armor around him in case we ever disagree with him about something. LOL

For sure somebody's angry in this thread but it sure ain't the guys discussing soccer. 😉
It's not fun having politics stuck in places we just want to get away from reality and enjoy something like sports, is it?

You can't have it both ways, if you're all for Rapinoe and other injecting politics into sports and all aspects of life, then you really have no leg to stand on when politics is injected into this thread or any other.
 

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It's not fun having politics stuck in places we just want to get away from reality and enjoy something like sports, is it?

You can't have it both ways, if you're all for Rapinoe and other injecting politics into sports and all aspects of life, then you really have no leg to stand on when politics is injected into this thread or any other.
this started out as a discussion of what the ladies were doing on the pitch. names were called out because of what htey were doing, not because of anything else. until the CE folks decided to come in and pollute the thread.
 
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vkj91

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Those short corners were set plays - to think she can't reach the goal is just dumb. She did misplay that long ball though.
Short or not they were horrible deliveries. You could see Ertz yelling at her
 

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It’s ironic that you don’t see that you are part of the problem. People have every right to complain about her woke agenda because she stinks and shouldn’t be on the team. Much less considered a leader. Instead of acknowledging that and moving on you name call other posters, bring up the CE board, and try to sound superior.
Let’s be honest if ANY other player showed up looking so out of shape, so technically poor, and basically emaciated with zero muscle you’d call it out. But you have an inherent need to protect the wokest of libs
Just be honest, she stinks and has for a few years.
She hasn't "stunk" for the last few years, as she played quite well for the US team in 2021-2022 in friendlies and the She-Believes/CONCACAF tourneys, plus she was our best player in the 2019 WC and played very well in the 2020 Olympics, so your bias against her is pretty clear. The only time she hasn't played much or that well is in 2023, largely due to injury, as you know. And yes, I've also watched just about every USWNT match for many, many years and have been playing soccer weekly for most of the past ~15 years (and coached for 8 years), which is far more involvement in soccer than you've had, based on your CE post about only lately having come to soccer to watch your daughters.

She also didn't look any thinner or less muscular to me, but she likely wasn't in her best shape due to lack of play, which is why she was only viewed as a sub. But to try to make a case that she shouldn't have been on the team, assuming she was now healthy, is ludicrous. The discussions about her pre-WC were whether she should start, not whether she should be on the team, as per the article below (and many others).

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soc...wnt-womens-world-cup/ta7yces3er8xwitgnko0bjp5

Having said all that, I've also said she didn't play well in the 2 group stage games she was in and she definitely did not play well against Sweden, but I think that was a surprise to most - and if the coach knew/thought she was still not 100%, he shouldn't have played her. The best players should play, always.

Her politics should have nothing to do with it, but that's where actually you don't see that you're part of the problem. You would exclude her just based on her politics, while I would've only excluded or included her based on her skill/ability. The anthem crap to me is just noise that shouldn't play a role in her selection/playing, nor should her activities related to social justice - again, those are superfluous relative to selection/playing. But you and the CE misogynists who simply hate her for her politics/off-field actions are an embarrassment to humanity - and toby isn't the only one wishing her harm, which is sad - that CE board thread on the USWNT is heinous with its hatred.
 

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Who will Rapino blame for her miss? Couldn't happen to a nicer person. On the plus side, we'll never have to see her disrespect our flag and anthem. Good luck making money on endorsements, lol.
She is likely already set for life off her "brand" of disrespect for everyone not among the alphabet soup "alliance". America has given her so much and she pees on it over and over.

Still. I wish she hit her shot.
 

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Whose miss was left out? Megan Rapinoe and Sophia Smith - the latter apparently escaped your notice.
Smith is young and didn't laugh off missing her PK. I do wonder if all her media attention and marketing deals will ruin her. I hope not, she shows a lot of talent in spots. But, damn, was that defender Grima was pretty awesome. I have to wonder how many current players should have been replaced with no-names like Grima.
 

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this started out as a discussion of what the ladies were doing on the pitch. names were called out because of what htey were doing, not because of anything else. until the CE folks decided to come in and pollute the thread.
But that's the point I'm trying to drive home, just like liberals have done with sports, pollute it with politics.

Why is one side allowed to do this and the other can't?

I'm with you, I wish we can separate the two as they have no business being intertwined. But that ship as sailed, sadly.
 

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She hasn't "stunk" for the last few years, as she played quite well for the US team in 2021-2022 in friendlies and the She-Believes/CONCACAF tourneys, plus she was our best player in the 2019 WC and played very well in the 2020 Olympics, so your bias against her is pretty clear. The only time she hasn't played much or that well is in 2023, largely due to injury, as you know. And yes, I've also watched just about every USWNT match for many, many years and have been playing soccer weekly for most of the past ~15 years (and coached for 8 years), which is far more involvement in soccer than you've had, based on your CE post about only lately having come to soccer to watch your daughters.

She also didn't look any thinner or less muscular to me, but she likely wasn't in her best shape due to lack of play, which is why she was only viewed as a sub. But to try to make a case that she shouldn't have been on the team, assuming she was now healthy, is ludicrous. The discussions about her pre-WC were whether she should start, not whether she should be on the team, as per the article below (and many others).

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soc...wnt-womens-world-cup/ta7yces3er8xwitgnko0bjp5

Having said all that, I've also said she didn't play well in the 2 group stage games she was in and she definitely did not play well against Sweden, but I think that was a surprise to most - and if the coach knew/thought she was still not 100%, he shouldn't have played her. The best players should play, always.

Her politics should have nothing to do with it, but that's where actually you don't see that you're part of the problem. You would exclude her just based on her politics, while I would've only excluded or included her based on her skill/ability. The anthem crap to me is just noise that shouldn't play a role in her selection/playing, nor should her activities related to social justice - again, those are superfluous relative to selection/playing. But you and the CE misogynists who simply hate her for her politics/off-field actions are an embarrassment to humanity - and toby isn't the only one wishing her harm, which is sad - that CE board thread on the USWNT is heinous with its hatred.
I don’t hate her. I think she in her present form, sucks and shouldn’t be on the team. You only like her because she’s a whacko. She has every right to be A whacko. But after last World Cup, she put being a whacko in front of being a pro athlete. And my daughters have been playing almost daily for for over a decade. I’ve been watching the highest level of youth soccer in the country for the last 6 years. They’ve played in tournaments as far as Italy. Played with multiple girls on national teams from U20 on down. And they’ve played against all these girls who are starting to skip college to go pro at 18. My oldest may start playing for Italy and my youngest is still getting looks for US team. She also has multiple P5 offers. There is zero doubt I know more about what’s going on in US women’s soccer than you do because you play in a beer league on Wednesdays. Probably a wheat grass league knowing you.
 
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this started out as a discussion of what the ladies were doing on the pitch. names were called out because of what htey were doing, not because of anything else. until the CE folks decided to come in and pollute the thread.

Exactly. It was a great thread for 2+ pages, focused just on the soccer, with criticism, as warranted, of players and coaches - in fact I think I was the first one criticizing Rapinoe, for her poor performance in the Portugal match (not for her politics). And then on page 3, Cali and the rest of the CE board misogynists started polluting the thread with their anthem/gender crap and the thread went downhill fast and predictably.

Now that the US is out, I assume it'll return to being about soccer, although the CE trolls don't give up easily and might just stay so that they can get the thread locked. The mods couldn't even see clear to delete toby's post calling for Rapinoe to be hit by a bus.
She is likely already set for life off her "brand" of disrespect for everyone not among the alphabet soup "alliance". America has given her so much and she pees on it over and over.

Still. I wish she hit her shot.
I can completely understand not liking certain players (although not liking them for their politics just seems silly to me), which we all do. What I could not understand was most of the CE righties rooting against the USWNT in the WC, because of their hatred for one player, for the most part. I'm glad to see you at least didn't join them in rooting against the USA.
 

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But that's the point I'm trying to drive home, just like liberals have done with sports, pollute it with politics.

Why is one side allowed to do this and the other can't?

I'm with you, I wish we can separate the two as they have no business being intertwined. But that ship as sailed, sadly.
No liberals I know of polluted this thread, though. It was purely about soccer until the RWCJ showed up with their usual political nonsense. Surely you can see that.
 
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Her politics should have nothing to do with it, but that's where actually you don't see that you're part of the problem. You would exclude her just based on her politics, while I would've only excluded or included her based on her skill/ability. The anthem crap to me is just noise that shouldn't play a role in her selection/playing, nor should her activities related to social justice - again, those are superfluous relative to selection/playing. But you and the CE misogynists who simply hate her for her politics/off-field actions are an embarrassment to humanity - and toby isn't the only one wishing her harm, which is sad - that CE board thread on the USWNT is heinous with its hatred.
What you are missing is that she stunk and because she stunk people opposed to her political agitators BS took the opportunity to insult her for stinking and had to question why she was on the team at all AND given the 1st sub position. There are likely dozens of players who didn't make the team that would have added more value (in terms of soccer).

I'll go further and say I would only take players who are PROUD to represent America for the team. I think they would be more highly motivated to beat opponents who all seem to be proud to represent their nations... and every nation has similar backgrounds in "crimes against humanity" and repression of homosexuals and so on... racism also for those nations who had to face that or currently are.. like Sweden.. and yet, all those players on these other teams proudly belt out their national anthems. And so should our players. They should be proud to be selected to represent their nation. If they aren't, then they shouldn't.
 

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But that's the point I'm trying to drive home, just like liberals have done with sports, pollute it with politics.

Why is one side allowed to do this and the other can't?

I'm with you, I wish we can separate the two as they have no business being intertwined. But that ship as sailed, sadly.
there were no political sides to this thread. until the CE folks came in. we were talking about results and performance on the pitch. until the CE folks came in and decided to talk about rapinoe and national anthem and all that. i still want to discuss what happened on the pitch. things that are worth discussion:

- bad strategy by the coach
- the lineups he threw out there
- areas we would like to see improve going into the next tournament, olympics or WC
- up and coming players, or injured players who will be replacing the old guard

but the CE folks only want to talk about rapinoe and won't move off the topic.

for the most part, it's because i don't think the CE crowd really gives a rats *** about what the USWNT does, other than the political views of its players. so take that to the CE board. bash rapinoe all you want. i don't particularly care. but others DO want to talk about USWNT soccer and the actual game being played, not the extracurriculars.
 

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Exactly. It was a great thread for 2+ pages, focused just on the soccer, with criticism, as warranted, of players and coaches - in fact I think I was the first one criticizing Rapinoe, for her poor performance in the Portugal match (not for her politics). And then on page 3, Cali and the rest of the CE board misogynists started polluting the thread with their anthem/gender crap and the thread went downhill fast and predictably.

Now that the US is out, I assume it'll return to being about soccer, although the CE trolls don't give up easily and might just stay so that they can get the thread locked. The mods couldn't even see clear to delete toby's post calling for Rapinoe to be hit by a bus.

I can completely understand not liking certain players (although not liking them for their politics just seems silly to me), which we all do. What I could not understand was most of the CE righties rooting against the USWNT in the WC, because of their hatred for one player, for the most part. I'm glad to see you at least didn't join them in rooting against the USA.

Um she brings politics into the sport not us

One sided hypocrisy in every thread from electric vehicles to climate to covid

If you dont tow a company line your opinion is garbage. Funny how that goes
 

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LOL

Purple haired Joe Biden says hello
 

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I don’t hate her. I think she in her present form, sucks and shouldn’t be on the team. You only like her because she’s a whacko. She has every right to be A whacko. But after last World Cup, she put being a whacko in front of being a pro athlete. And my daughters have been playing almost daily for for over a decade. I’ve been watching the highest level of youth soccer in the country for the last 6 years. They’ve played in tournaments as far as Italy. Played with multiple girls on national teams from U20 on down. And they’ve played against all these girls who are starting to skip college to go pro at 18. My oldest may start playing for Italy and my youngest is still getting looks for US team. She also has multiple P5 offers. There is zero doubt I know more about what’s going on in US women’s soccer than you do because you play in a beer league on Wednesdays. Probably a wheat grass league knowing you.
I've never actually weighed in on "liking" Rapinoe, as far as I can recall. I think she's a great player on the downward trend and she didn't play well in this WC at all - if I thought she'd play like she did, I would've wanted someone else on the roster instead of her, although I still don't think anyone could know she'd play this poorly. I respect her protestations related to the anthem and gender/equality issues and respect that others might not be fans of that, but I don't like that so many on the right have moved from disagreement with her to hatred of her. And while I respect her protestations, purely from a team perspective, I don't love that she has called extra attention to herself, as I think teams generally don't need such distractions.

As for the soccer I've played, it's middle aged guys to be sure, but it features a number of former college players, many of whom are still pretty talented, as @mildone can verify. I mostly play keeper, since that is my best position, mostly because I didn't play soccer much growing up - played football in the fall (WR/safety, with safety being quite similar to keeper in many ways) in HS and college intramurals. While you've clearly watched more youth/U-20 soccer than I have, you can't have watched more USWNT soccer (we've both seen the same games) and you haven't played the game, so it's probably a wash. And this "comparison" is largely irrelevant anyway with regard to Rapinoe.
 

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Um she brings politics into the sport not us

One sided hypocrisy in every thread from electric vehicles to climate to covid

If you dont tow a company line your opinion is garbage. Funny how that goes

NimberSan playing the victim as usual.

No one talked about Rapinoe in political terms until she made herself the center of attention by doing so. Now the weak minded can't stand the criticism she takes for it.

Tells you how mentally weak they are. Just like her. Always the victims.
 

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Think I was wrong about Morgan not belonging out there either... that she didn't score a goal during the whole time the team as a whole played poorly in group play probably tilted my opinion of Morgan. But in this last game he two shots on goal showed her talent (left foot and header). Both showed talent, athletics and skill. You can see clips in this story that discuss whether this was her last national team game..

So the team played better and she looked better.. as a striker maybe team play needs to be at a certain level to give you a chance to look good.
 
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What you are missing is that she stunk and because she stunk people opposed to her political agitators BS took the opportunity to insult her for stinking and had to question why she was on the team at all AND given the 1st sub position. There are likely dozens of players who didn't make the team that would have added more value (in terms of soccer).

I'll go further and say I would only take players who are PROUD to represent America for the team. I think they would be more highly motivated to beat opponents who all seem to be proud to represent their nations... and every nation has similar backgrounds in "crimes against humanity" and repression of homosexuals and so on... racism also for those nations who had to face that or currently are.. like Sweden.. and yet, all those players on these other teams proudly belt out their national anthems. And so should our players. They should be proud to be selected to represent their nation. If they aren't, then they shouldn't.
Are you saying you can't be proud to represent America and want to beat the snot out of other teams unless you sing a song? Is that really what you want to go with? Do you think Jesse Owens in 1936 "loved" this country that didn't recognize him as a full citizen? I can't imagine he did, but that didn't stop him and countless other black Americans from giving their all for the USA for decades. Rapinoe has been quoted many times saying how proud she was to play for the USA.

We agree on the she didn't play well part - what we don't know though is whether anyone could have known she wouldn't play well given her past history of being a great player. I'm sure if the coach had that kind of insight he wouldn't have played her.
 

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In the interest of turning the page, let me correct a misstatement I made earlier. I said Vlatko's contract has expired or was about to expire. He is actually under contract until the end of the calendar year. The USWNT has two friendlies scheduled next month, and he will be coaching unless someone tells him he isn't.

I assume that the USSF will move on from Vlatko, but who knows.

The other threshold question IMO is - how important does the USSF view the Olympics? If they do view it as important, as I assume they do, then they should bring in a new coach right away. It might also mitigate against an immediate teardown.
 

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NimberSan playing the victim as usual.

No one talked about Rapinoe in political terms until she made herself the center of attention by doing so. Now the weak minded can't stand the criticism she takes for it.

Tells you how mentally weak they are. Just like her. Always the victims.
Ahhh, the TIC (troll in chief), who started all this crap back on page 3, is back. With nothing of value as usual. The point isn't whether Rapinoe has taken political positions or not - the point is the thread was 100% about soccer until you and your Neanderthal buddies began polluting the thread.
 
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No liberals I know of polluted this thread, though. It was purely about soccer until the RWCJ showed up with their usual political nonsense. Surely you can see that.
I never said they did, that was never my point. I'll say it again - you can't have it both ways, you can't champion athletes bringing politics into the game and then get pissy when people react to it. You're being a 100% hypocrite.
 

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In the interest of turning the page, let me correct a misstatement I made earlier. I said Vlatko's contract has expired or was about to expire. He is actually under contract until the end of the calendar year. The USWNT has two friendlies scheduled next month, and he will be coaching unless someone tells him he isn't.

I assume that the USSF will move on from Vlatko, but who knows.

The other threshold question IMO is - how important does the USSF view the Olympics? If they do view it as important, as I assume they do, then they should bring in a new coach right away. It might also mitigate against an immediate teardown.
I'll be stunned if he isn't canned in the next week or so. Can't hide an abysmal record with the #1 team in the world. I would have fired him today.
 

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Ahhh, the TIC (troll in chief), who started all this crap back on page 3, is back. With nothing of value as usual. The point isn't whether Rapinoe has taken political positions or not - the point is the thread was 100% about soccer until you and your Neanderthal buddies began polluting the thread.

Waaaah. Started what "crap". You don't like it, ignore me. Everything I said was true. That post wasn't even political. And if you don't want politics being brought into the team, you should be incensed that the face of the team brought politics into the team. But your weak character won't allow that.

And you play goalie in your over the hill beer league because you're fat and out of shape. Don't try and twist it.
 

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I never said they did, that was never my point. I'll say it again - you can't have it both ways, you can't champion athletes bringing politics into the game and then get pissy when people react to it. You're being a 100% hypocrite.
You're delusional. The football board, in theory, is supposed to be free from politics, as Richie has stated many times. Surely, then, we should expect people to not inject politics into a World Cup thread and let it just be about the soccer, but that didn't happen and it didn't happen because righties derailed the thread with politics. That's crystal clear.

If there were no restrictions on politics in threads on this board, then I'd have zero issue with the current thread. I hate having such restrictions, probably more than anyone else on the board, as it means I'm not allowed to post about COVID and other medical topics, even if those posts are restricted to scientific content, as I've been told repeatedly.
 

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Are you saying you can't be proud to represent America and want to beat the snot out of other teams unless you sing a song? Is that really what you want to go with? Do you think Jesse Owens in 1936 "loved" this country that didn't recognize him as a full citizen? I can't imagine he did, but that didn't stop him and countless other black Americans from giving their all for the USA for decades. Rapinoe has been quoted many times saying how proud she was to play for the USA.

We agree on the she didn't play well part - what we don't know though is whether anyone could have known she wouldn't play well given her past history of being a great player. I'm sure if the coach had that kind of insight he wouldn't have played her.
Jesse Owens? Really? You hear me complaining about the black panther salute guys from Mexico City? There were actual racist laws back then... worthy of protest. But all this now is a distraction for political purposes. Show me women kneeling because men are allowed to call themselves women and play against them, taking away their opportunities for scholarships and so on and then you might find me in agreement with the kneelers but STILL I'd suggest they stand and honor the flag and nation they are representing and use their personal time to protest.

On this...

" I'm sure if the coach had that kind of insight he wouldn't have played her."

..we can disagree. I think she is on the team because of her politics and how sponsors support her. Maybe it was fear of cutting her that kept her on the team.

Let me ask you this... do you think Rapinoe knew she was OFF.. that she wasn't what she once was in soccer and should have just retired? I think top athletes know it. Carly Lloyd did.
 

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You're delusional. The football board, in theory, is supposed to be free from politics, as Richie has stated many times. Surely, then, we should expect people to not inject politics into a World Cup thread and let it just be about the soccer, but that didn't happen and it didn't happen because righties derailed the thread with politics. That's crystal clear.

If there were no restrictions on politics in threads on this board, then I'd have zero issue with the current thread. I hate having such restrictions, probably more than anyone else on the board, as it means I'm not allowed to post about COVID and other medical topics, even if those posts are restricted to scientific content, as I've been told repeatedly.

"Scientific content" lol. Funny how the science he posted was all wrong.
 

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for the most part, it's because i don't think the CE crowd really gives a rats *** about what the USWNT does, other than the political views of its players. so take that to the CE board. bash rapinoe all you want. i don't particularly care. but others DO want to talk about USWNT soccer and the actual game being played, not the extracurriculars.
You're making my point, this is the same frustration the right has had with sports ever since Kaepernick started kneeling and the left decided to make sports political, we just want to talk and watch sports, nothing else. But that's been taken away, and as I've stated to you before it's an unhealthy development, Americans deserve to enjoy what they love without the stress and ugliness of politics being tosses into the mix.
 

Ronnie_B

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You're delusional. The football board, in theory, is supposed to be free from politics, as Richie has stated many times. Surely, then, we should expect people to not inject politics into a World Cup thread and let it just be about the soccer, but that didn't happen and it didn't happen because righties derailed the thread with politics. That's crystal clear.

If there were no restrictions on politics in threads on this board, then I'd have zero issue with the current thread. I hate having such restrictions, probably more than anyone else on the board, as it means I'm not allowed to post about COVID and other medical topics, even if those posts are restricted to scientific content, as I've been told repeatedly.
Oh the irony.

Sports, in theory, should be free from politics.

And Rapinoe has injected politics into the USWNT's brand, she did that, no one else.
 

RU848789

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On this...

" I'm sure if the coach had that kind of insight he wouldn't have played her."

..we can disagree. I think she is on the team because of her politics and how sponsors support her. Maybe it was fear of cutting her that kept her on the team.

Let me ask you this... do you think Rapinoe knew she was OFF.. that she wasn't what she once was in soccer and should have just retired? I think top athletes know it. Carly Lloyd did.
I think she was on the team for her skills and leadership, as the coach (and many other players) said. I don't think she thought she wasn't ready and very few athletes late in their careers really know it before they've started declining. Also, Carli Lloyd complained bitterly in 2019 about not starting and playing the entire games and while she played well in a sub role, I doubt she would've played nearly as well playing full games at her age (she was a year younger then than Rapinoe is now), so I don't really think she knew she wasn't quite the player she was when she was younger.
 
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RU848789

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Oh the irony.

Sports, in theory, should be free from politics.

And Rapinoe has injected politics into the USWNT's brand, she did that, no one else.
And you still miss the point. Of course she injected politics into women's soccer, but that's not the point. The only point evolution and I are arguing is related to how this board is supposed to function, i.e., without politics in the threads. And the ones who usually (not always, but yes, in this case) violate that are the righties from the CE board. Do you not see that?
 
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