OT: Is Aaron Judge the second coming of Babe Ruth?

RULoyal

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More stats 335/330
318/314. Left field right field dimensions Citi compared to Yankee Stadium. Yankee stadium friendlier to the hitters. Before panties get all bunch up certainly not debating Judge is special. He definitely is. With that said, he also has a stronger offensive lineup surrounding him. Can't fault Bruce for not driving in more runs. Reyes and Granderson barely have been hitting, let alone get on base
While all you state is true, in the context of this argument it means nothing. TMBC said Judge and Bruce were having the same year.
 

RuBird

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While all you state is true, in the context of this argument it means nothing. TMBC said Judge and Bruce were having the same year.
Missing my point. Can't compare the two (yes I know comparing players have been done for years). In a perfect world have Judge hit a CitiFiled with the current Mets lineup. Then have Bruce do the same at Yankee Stadium.
 

RULoyal

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Missing my point. Can't compare the two (yes I know comparing players have been done for years). In a perfect world have Judge hit a CitiFiled with the current Mets lineup. Then have Bruce do the same at Yankee Stadium.
Again, the argument wasn't who is a better player. It was their numbers so far this year were equal. Which they are not.
 
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RuBird

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Again, the argument wasn't who is a better player. It was their numbers so far this year were equal. Which they are not.
Lets go at this differently. Could care less who was arguing with who. MY point is it is useless to compare the two for so many reasons. It is also ridiculous for some to compare Judge's Barring average in June compared to others who have played a full season. I am not bashing Judge. Just wish some would give it time before annointing him the next Babe Ruth.
 

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Yes, it is still early, but the Kevin Maas and Shane Spencer comparisons are comical. Aaron Judge looks like he is going to be really special. The kid is not only a special talent but he is a hard worker who studies his craft, is intent on improving. The sky is literally the limit for the Judge. Hopefully he stays healthy, as injuries may be the only thing that could derail him.

The reason that his average is so high despite the strikeouts is simple - he hits the ball so hard, when he hits it fair it is more likely to drop in for a hit (or homer) than just about any other player.
 
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NickKnight 1

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Outrageous premise for a thread, I know. But this guy has the bat speed, power and ability to stay on the ball, like nothing I've ever seen....ever. Yes, give it some time but jeez, special player in the Bronx and the ceiling is where? He might just be getting started, hence the Ruthian comparison.
He is the second coming of Ruth, Gerrig, Dimaggio, and Mantle
put together.
 

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Somethings Judge is doing that I love:
1. vying for Triple crown.
2. 495 foot homer today.
3. Great base runner for his size.
4. Great out fielder.
5. Great personality.
6. But best of all he is pissing off the Yankee haters.

All of the above makes my day.

The OP was just having fun, deal with it.
 
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Only on Scarlet Nation can a player be compared to Babe Ruth and Jay Briuce in the same thread.
 
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Only on Scarlet Mation can a player be compared to Babe Ruth and Jay Briuce in the same thread.
And Adam Dunn and Kevin Mass.

I'm trying to figure out who the top 5 guy is that 5781 is referring to? I'm hoping he is not suggesting Babe Ruth is number 5
 

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Only on Scarlet Mation can a player be compared to Babe Ruth and Jay Briuce in the same thread.
And Adam Dunn and Kevin Mass.

I'm trying to figure out who the top 5 guy is that 5781 is referring to? I'm hoping he is not suggesting Babe Ruth is number 5

You should just give up sports.
You ask 10 people the top 5 baseball players, you will get 10 different answers.
 

CranfordKnight

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More stats 335/330
318/314. Left field right field dimensions Citi compared to Yankee Stadium. Yankee stadium friendlier to the hitters. Before panties get all bunch up certainly not debating Judge is special. He definitely is. With that said, he also has a stronger offensive lineup surrounding him. Can't fault Bruce for not driving in more runs. Reyes and Granderson barely have been hitting, let alone get on base

Judge's HRs:
 

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The Maas and Spencer comparisons are silly.

Judge was a huge prospect drafted in the first round and made his MLB debut 2 years younger than Spencer.

Maas was a 22nd round pick and an injury call up.

I imagine Judge will have a slump (all players do) and how he bounces back from it will be telling, but to suggest him being an all-star caliber player is a fluke is ridiculous.
nt
 

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ESPN Story summing up Judge's season so far...

Aaron Judge on MVP Path


No Signs Of Slumping
SWING RATE MISS RATE CHASE RATE SO RATE BB RATE
2016 45.6% 42.5% 30.3% 44.2% 9.5%
April 39.4% 31.3% 19.5% 26.7% 14.4%
May 44.0% 29.4% 24.7% 29.7% 13.5%
June 42.1% 35.4% 21.6% 27.1% 20.8%

The only potential red flag is that slight increase in swing-and-miss rate in June. That hasn't affected his stats, however: Judge is hitting .421/.542/.842 this month. The learning curve from last September to now is so impressive, especially his ability to lay off pitches he hacked away at last year. His chase rate is below the MLB average and his strikeout rate, while high, is manageable given his power production.
 

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what Judge will become is an unknown - but remember that the often overlooked aspect of Ruth's career & of his mystique is that he spent 6 years as a great pitcher (89-46 with a 2.19 ERA) before becoming the Sultan of Swat

This. Mickey Mantle might be a better example but even there AJ has a long way to go before we can start comparing him to the Mick.
 

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You should just give up sports.
You ask 10 people the top 5 baseball players, you will get 10 different answers.
Usually only two names mentioned for the top spot.
everyone has a different top five not many stray from the top 2. And I have given up most sports.
 

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Missing my point. Can't compare the two (yes I know comparing players have been done for years). In a perfect world have Judge hit a CitiFiled with the current Mets lineup. Then have Bruce do the same at Yankee Stadium.
The AL east is also the best division in baseball. The mets have played a ridiculously easy schedule. Left center at Yankee stadium is huge as well.
 

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Yankees with 21+ HR in team's 1st 60 games:
Aaron Judge
A-Rod (2007)
Roger Maris (1961)
Mickey Mantle (1956)
Babe Ruth (6x)
 

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Mets fan here and can't believe other Mets fans trying to do a comparison. Can't believe Yankee fans comparing him to Ruth and others either. But being Yankee fans, I don't blame you, that is what fans do. Judge is crazy fun to watch. Reminds me of the excitement of Strawberry and Gooden when they came up.i think Judge has a better eye and better head on his shoulders then Straw though. But both were the same excitement.
Btw- Judge would be hitting just the same at Citi. He doesn't rely on short fields.
 

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Mets fan here and can't believe other Mets fans trying to do a comparison. Can't believe Yankee fans comparing him to Ruth and others either. But being Yankee fans, I don't blame you, that is what fans do. Judge is crazy fun to watch. Reminds me of the excitement of Strawberry and Gooden when they came up.i think Judge has a better eye and better head on his shoulders then Straw though. But both were the same excitement.
Btw- Judge would be hitting just the same at Citi. He doesn't rely on short fields.
He's like Gooden and Strawberry?, oh no you think he's becoming a drug addict?
 
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Yankees with 21+ HR in team's 1st 60 games:
Aaron Judge
A-Rod (2007)
Roger Maris (1961)
Mickey Mantle (1956)
Babe Ruth (6x)
Just shows how ridiculous Ruth was. Different era, baseball wasn't integrated yet, etc., and those are valid points, but stats don't lie.
 

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Just shows how ridiculous Ruth was. Different era, baseball wasn't integrated yet, etc., and those are valid points, but stats don't lie.
Forgot the year, but the season Ruth hit 59 home runs, he hit more than ever other team (all players combined) expect one. Think about this for a few minutes. More than all but one team. That's like hitting 250 HRs today.
 
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Take it easy, remember Kevin Maas?

From a 2011 bleacher article: "This week on "Remember When…." We are going all the way back to the early Nineties when a 25 year-old kid came up for half a season to turn the Yankee faithful into believers. Kevin Maas was going to be the next Babe Ruth.

In the middle of 1990, the Yankees called up Maas when Don Mattingly went down with back problems. The home run spree started in his 15th at-bat, from then he hit nine more in 62 at-bats! Maas tied a major league record with 12 home runs in his first 100 at-bats."

Maas career

1990. 79 games. 21. HR
1991. 143 games 23 HR
1993 98 games. 11 HR
1994 59 games 9 HR
1995 22 games 1 HR
Haha I remember winning a Kevin Maas autographed ball at baseball camp as one of the top prizes for the week.
 

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Forgot the year, but the season Ruth hit 59 home runs, he hit more than ever other team (all players combined) expect one. Think about this for a few minutes. More than all but one team. That's like hitting 250 HRs today.
This. It's not just the numbers the Babe put up, it's how much better he was than everyone else that played.
 

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The AL east is also the best division in baseball. The mets have played a ridiculously easy schedule. Left center at Yankee stadium is huge as well.

The mets would most certainly be in last place in the AL East.
 

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Have the yanks beat any top pitchers? Seems like AL has weak pitching. The NL home of the world champs have tons of ace pitchers. Anyway Judge has been a fun story. Just remember its only the start of a yr and nothing in his history points to this type of production. Last yr struck out 50% of the time and batted 180. Im sure he is somewhere in between and not babe ruth lol
 

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Have the yanks beat any top pitchers? Seems like AL has weak pitching. The NL home of the world champs have tons of ace pitchers. Anyway Judge has been a fun story. Just remember its only the start of a yr and nothing in his history points to this type of production. Last yr struck out 50% of the time and batted 180. Im sure he is somewhere in between and not babe ruth lol
Jealousy in its most pure form. A Mets fan talking about the Yanks. HA!
 
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Have the yanks beat any top pitchers? Seems like AL has weak pitching. The NL home of the world champs have tons of ace pitchers. Anyway Judge has been a fun story. Just remember its only the start of a yr and nothing in his history points to this type of production. Last yr struck out 50% of the time and batted 180. Im sure he is somewhere in between and not babe ruth lol

not for nothing but in Willie Mays first 600 AB's or so, he batted about .250 with 24 HR. Not exactly a top 5 player type in History type of numbers...
take a look at M. Trout's first year too - 123 AB 5HR .220 BA Again, just silly to do this...
 

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not for nothing but in Willie Mays first 600 AB's or so, he batted about .250 with 24 HR. Not exactly a top 5 player type in History type of numbers...
take a look at M. Trout's first year too - 123 AB 5HR .220 BA Again, just silly to do this...
So you are saying, Judge is going to be a lot better than Mays and Trout?
:)
 

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So you are saying, Judge is going to be a lot better than Mays and Trout?
:)

hahahahaha just saying all this crap is foolish. kid is off to one hell of a start in his career. everyone should just enjoy this kind of talent regardless if it is your team or not.
 
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Have the yanks beat any top pitchers? Seems like AL has weak pitching. The NL home of the world champs have tons of ace pitchers. Anyway Judge has been a fun story. Just remember its only the start of a yr and nothing in his history points to this type of production. Last yr struck out 50% of the time and batted 180. Im sure he is somewhere in between and not babe ruth lol
Hang in there Mr. Met, he still can fail. Either way if he succeeds he has all the N.Y. Yankee fans happy,
and if he fails, he makes all the Met fans happy. Either way he is making New Yorkers happy.
 

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Rumor is that the 145th street bridge was backed up after the game, so Judge parted the Harlem River to help people get across.
 
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