OT: Michael Oher petitioned a court with allegations that Tuohy Family never adopted him

voltz99

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A person acting as a conservator owes a fiduciary duty to person placed under a conservatorship to act in that person's best interest. If the Tuohy's movie deal was in writing and Michael was the only person in the Tuohy household not to receive monies from the studio, they breached their fiduciary duty to Michael.


According to the family they made 70k on the book and that was split equally. 0 on the movie. How much of the 30M did Oher share?
 

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I guess you can look at it as if the parents have “lied” for 15 years about legally adopting him. Another way to look at it is whether he was legally adopted or not they took him, treated him as a son, made him a part of the family, etc. In other words, they “adopted” him albeit perhaps not legally.

There are plenty of stepdads out there calling kids “their” son or daughter even if they have not technically adopted them. That doesn’t make those dads liars.

One last thing — one side of the narrative is that the parents manipulated the situation to enrich themselves. Perhaps they did, but the fact that they were super successful business people who didn’t need the movie money should be considered.
 

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I doubt they made much money off the story. I’m betting they didn’t get residuals. 250k each sounds pretty high. We also don’t know if he really didn’t get a cut. I bet we never know and it’s settled out of court.

I've never had any experience but isn't the general theme that movie studios do everything in their power to fudge the numbers on movies so they pay out less money to everyone else?
They play fast and loose with accounting more than college athletic departments.

I would highly doubt the studio just gave away 2.5% of the gross earnings to the family.
That would have to be gross profits at best - which again as an outsider - the studio does everything they can to tack on expenses so movies don't "profit" nearly as much as you would think.
So they can lower that hypothetical 2.5% they are giving away to outsiders.

Perhaps someone with experience could add insight though.
 

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Based on what I've read, Oher is claiming that they profited off his name in the years subsequent to the movie - certainly Leigh Anne Tuohy has made a career out of it.
You cannot sue based on that.. well, you CAN sue.. but WIN? I think his lawyers are taking him for a ride. Unless maybe they court-shopped for a friendly jury.

And it not like they are just using his celebrity to make money.. they helped him become a celebrity in the first place. And who's story is it.. his or theirs? It is both, right? Maybe they should countersue for how all the advice they game him and surrounding him with a stable household helped him become what he is.

It is just so ugly and petty out of him. I feel badly for him that he feels a need to do this.
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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One last thing — one side of the narrative is that the parents manipulated the situation to enrich themselves. Perhaps they did, but the fact that they were super successful business people who didn’t need the movie money should be considered.
How much money would you require from a movie company that wants to make you famous and possibly open you up to all kinds of criticism like what is happening now?
 

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They made 70k off the book. They made 200M before they met Oher. Who is the golden goose? Oher was broke before he met the Toueys. Do you think his 12 siblings without the conservatorship were better off?
What matters is if they lied about the adoption and used the conservatorship
in a way to make money off him without sharing what they received.
There are some people no matter how rich they are that will find ways to make male more even if it means cheating someone out their share.

Oher might have been broke and in need of help, but that doesn't mean
the Toueys had a right to fleece him out of his fair share of the money they made off his success by making him believe he was adopted when in fact had him sign away his right to control the money being made off his story and be the one who dictates who gets a cut and whose left out.
Seems he was the one left out and just because the Toueys were well off before they took him in and he was broke, doesn't give the Toueys a pass on
lying to him and making a profit off his name because Oher trusted them
enough to believe what they told him. Which turned out to be lies
 

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Here’s some of what Sean Tuohy said….getting hard to be on Michael Oher’s side based on this and the rest of what he said…..

“It’s hard because you have to defend yourself, but whatever he wants, we’ll do. We’re not in this for anything other than whatever he wants. If he’d have said, ‘I don’t want to be part of the family anymore,’ we’d have been very upset, but we absolutely would have done it," he continued.

When asked whether the Tuohys would be willing to end their conservatorship of 37-year-old Oher, Tuohy responded, “I want whatever Michael wants."

Also sounds like the conservatorship was a way to get around thr NCAA since Sean Tuohy was considered a booster. It’s just sad and sounds like Michael Oher went off the rails a bit here in a public way.
 

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What matters is if they lied about the adoption and used the conservatorship
in a way to make money off him without sharing what they received.
There are some people no matter how rich they are that will find ways to make male more even if it means cheating someone out their share.

Oher might have been broke and in need of help, but that doesn't mean
the Toueys had a right to fleece him out of his fair share of the money they made off his success by making him believe he was adopted when in fact had him sign away his right to control the money being made off his story and be the one who dictates who gets a cut and whose left out.
Seems he was the one left out and just because the Toueys were well off before they took him in and he was broke, doesn't give the Toueys a pass on
lying to him and making a profit off his name because Oher trusted them
enough to believe what they told him. Which turned out to be lies


They did not lie. They even brought HIS mother to court for the proceedings. This kid is not the brightest bulb. He flunked first AND second grade. What money did they make? 70K? He got his cut.


Looks to me like the kid has money problems and now he wants part of their 200m that had nothing to do with the movie.
 

yesrutgers01

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So they got the movie money, and he got the football money? I can’t imagine there was that much movie money for them.
The 2009 movie, based on a book by Michael Lewis, won Sandra Bullock the Academy Award for Best Actress. According to the filing, The Blind Side netted the Tuohys and their two children $225,000 each plus 2.5 percent of the “defined net proceeds” — a substantial sum for a movie that made $309 million at the box office
 

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The 2009 movie, based on a book by Michael Lewis, won Sandra Bullock the Academy Award for Best Actress. According to the filing, The Blind Side netted the Tuohys and their two children $225,000 each plus 2.5 percent of the “defined net proceeds” — a substantial sum for a movie that made $309 million at the box office
No. That is what Oher alleges. A kid who flunked 1st grade is now defining contracts.

According to the Touhys they got 70k total split between the 5 of them.
 

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The 2009 movie, based on a book by Michael Lewis, won Sandra Bullock the Academy Award for Best Actress. According to the filing, The Blind Side netted the Tuohys and their two children $225,000 each plus 2.5 percent of the “defined net proceeds” — a substantial sum for a movie that made $309 million at the box office

I'm sorry, I know this bit has popped up before, but there's no way a studio gave up 10 points to the subjects of a story.
 

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Here’s some of what Sean Tuohy said….getting hard to be on Michael Oher’s side based on this and the rest of what he said…..

“It’s hard because you have to defend yourself, but whatever he wants, we’ll do. We’re not in this for anything other than whatever he wants. If he’d have said, ‘I don’t want to be part of the family anymore,’ we’d have been very upset, but we absolutely would have done it," he continued.

When asked whether the Tuohys would be willing to end their conservatorship of 37-year-old Oher, Tuohy responded, “I want whatever Michael wants."

Also sounds like the conservatorship was a way to get around thr NCAA since Sean Tuohy was considered a booster. It’s just sad and sounds like Michael Oher went off the rails a bit here in a public way.
This is funny. Doesn’t Oher has to be part of the family first before he can want out. Getting around the NCAA as an excuse just makes it more sketchy. No one knows the truth other than Oher and Tuohy family. Whatever you saw in the movie is all BS. Made for entertainment.
 

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Here is the real issue- they still had full control of his funds until just a month ago, if I am reading it correctly. So, in his $35 mil earned and let's call it about $15 mil take home over 9 years- did he actually see all of it. Did they spend any? Did they invest it wisely or poorly?

And...WTF? Who tells a kid they are adopted and they never really di it?
 
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What matters is if they lied about the adoption and used the conservatorship
in a way to make money off him without sharing what they received.
There are some people no matter how rich they are that will find ways to make male more even if it means cheating someone out their share.

Oher might have been broke and in need of help, but that doesn't mean
the Toueys had a right to fleece him out of his fair share of the money they made off his success by making him believe he was adopted when in fact had him sign away his right to control the money being made off his story and be the one who dictates who gets a cut and whose left out.
Seems he was the one left out and just because the Toueys were well off before they took him in and he was broke, doesn't give the Toueys a pass on
lying to him and making a profit off his name because Oher trusted them
enough to believe what they told him. Which turned out to be lies
Well it even says in the movie they didn’t adopt him.(reason is because he was to old). Either he is ignorant(he claims he’s not) or just doing this to sell a book etc… they never stated they adopted him. Guardianship is a way to get around privacy stuff. Everything a parent does and at 18 most still need guidance. I realize it’s just a movie but wouldn’t you put that relevant detail in the movie? Him coming out and saying “I thought they adopted me” makes him look ignorant or disingenuous. I’m leaning more disingenuous.

 

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Here is the real issue- they still had full control of his funds until just a month ago, if I am reading it correctly. So, in his $35 mil earned and let's call it about $15 mil take home over 9 years- did he actually see all of it. Did they spend any? Did they invest it wisely or poorly?

And...WTF? Who tells a kid they are adopted and they never really di it?
It is odd that you would have a conservatorship still in place for a 37 year old (unless it's Britney). It feels like things are a bit off on both sides of this story so far. Curious to see where reality lies.
 

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It is odd that you would have a conservatorship still in place for a 37 year old (unless it's Britney). It feels like things are a bit off on both sides of this story so far. Curious to see where reality lies.
 
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It is odd that you would have a conservatorship still in place for a 37 year old (unless it's Britney). It feels like things are a bit off on both sides of this story so far. Curious to see where reality lies.


You sure the kid is all there? He flunked 1st grade and 2nd grade. Fredo thought he was smart. Britney thinks she is ok too.
 

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My first thought when I saw this is Michael Oher funds are running low. We are now talking 20 years later - you mean all the professionals he had managing his career - accountant, agent, lawyer,etc. and nobody caught this? Will wait for details to come out but sounds fishy to me from the Oher side.
Ding, ding, ding, likely the winning comment. ^^^^^

If something was really shady, it would have came out a long, long time ago. Surely the movie embellished certain details, but whatever the relation was between Oher and the family, it seemed to have helped out everyone.
 

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Ding, ding, ding, likely the winning comment. ^^^^^

If something was really shady, it would have came out a long, long time ago. Surely the movie embellished certain details, but whatever the relation was between Oher and the family, it seemed to have helped out everyone.


Just got married too. She needs to get her piece of the pie. She might be late to the party and missed the 20 year run.
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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... It’s just sad and sounds like Michael Oher went off the rails a bit here in a public way.
Yeah.. that's my take. I have to wonder who is chirping in his ear. Hmm.. the wife? Took him 17 years to marry her in 2022. Maybe she thinks he deserved more. I have to say though.. this conservatorship thing... didn't like it with Britney and don't like it with Oher. Unhealthy. Make your last bit of conservatorship helping him pick a good financial advisor and protect him that way. But.. this public hissyfit.. unless it is just an act to seel books.. it is not smart.
 

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Just got married too. She needs to get her piece of the pie. She might be late to the party and missed the 20 year run.
As I mentioned in my reply (while you were also replying),, they were together 17 years before he popped the question. I think he must be stressed out and doesn't know where to lash out. Maybe Ole Miss did not prepare him for life... maybe the Tuhoys prevented that.. who knows.

oh.. and if there is such a thing as common-law marriage.. how about common-law adoption? He was their son and brother.. as far as I could tell. Its just sad... but they're all millionaires sooo.. how sad could it be?
 
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We'll find out if it goes to trial if he knew he was not adopted , but now claiming this:
Michael Oher discovered this lie to his chagrin and embarrassment in February of 2023, when he learned that the Conservatorship to which he consented on the basis that doing so would make him a member of the Tuohy family, in fact provided him no familial relationship with the Tuohys.'

edit to say I think this will be resolved and this will end because it probably is what Oher is after , having control of his endorsements and any profit coming from use of his name
>Leigh Anne and Sean still “have all powers of attorney to act on” the former Baltimor Ravens star's behalf, according to the legal petition. The conservatorship papers, signed in 2004, say Oher “shall not be allowed to enter into any contracts or bind himself without the direct approval of his conservators.”<
 
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Yeah.. that's my take. I have to wonder who is chirping in his ear. Hmm.. the wife? Took him 17 years to marry her in 2022. Maybe she thinks he deserved more. I have to say though.. this conservatorship thing... didn't like it with Britney and don't like it with Oher. Unhealthy. Make your last bit of conservatorship helping him pick a good financial advisor and protect him that way. But.. this public hissyfit.. unless it is just an act to seel books.. it is not smart.
If you see some of the stuff Britney is saying and doing these days you realize maybe that dad wasn’t the bad guy here.
 

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Just saw this. Wild.

If this proves true, there’s no way in hell that I can take Oher’s side like I have been doing

>The evidence – documented in profit participation checks and studio accounting statements – is clear: over the years, the Tuohys have given Mr. Oher an equal cut of every penny received from The Blind Side. Even recently, when Mr. Oher started to threaten them about what he would do unless they paid him an eight-figure windfall, and, as part of that shakedown effort refused to cash the small profit checks from the Tuohys, they still deposited Mr. Oher’s equal share into a trust account they set up for his son.<



https://deadline.com/2023/08/blind-side-family-response-michael-oher-1235520082/
 

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Maybe he is upset that when the Tuohys kick (both 63..) he won't be inheriting anything because they did not officially adopt him. Still gotta wonder.. why now? Why at 37 years old? What spurred him on to do this? If it is just book sales.. well, he has taken it too far because if stuff like that Deadline.com story is true, and his book doesn't have the facts about that correct.. what good is it?
 

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If you see some of the stuff Britney is saying and doing these days you realize maybe that dad wasn’t the bad guy here.
Who cares? It is her life. If she wasn't making millions would he still want conservatorship? Maybe he could have helped her in other ways so she would become a responsible adult and find a responsible mate. Maybe he was incapable of that or was blinded by the money. Granted, she was hot as hell and that can be hard to control.. maybe if she looked like child-star "Blossom" she might have become a successful adult as well..


 

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Maybe he is upset that when the Tuohys kick (both 63..) he won't be inheriting anything because they did not officially adopt him. Still gotta wonder.. why now? Why at 37 years old? What spurred him on to do this? If it is just book sales.. well, he has taken it too far because if stuff like that Deadline.com story is true, and his book doesn't have the facts about that correct.. what good is it?
They couldn’t adopt him. He was an adult but they still had his best interest at heart(it seems). Looks like a case of the tuohys still tried and he didn’t listen. It’s looking like he’s out of money.
 

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"The Express.. Remember the Titans..The Blind Side" - all pretty much overcooked according to the black and white players involved. I neversaw any of them despite being a big Denzel fan

How much do you think herman boone got for remember the titans?
 
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Where is she on that hot crazy matrix graph now?

Pretty sure her plot points have changed over the years.

Well, she's gotten less hot, but I don't think she's gotten any crazier. Although if she's now a 7 on the Hot axis and an 8 on the Crazy axis that would put her just over the line into the Danger Zone.
 

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Well, she's gotten less hot, but I don't think she's gotten any crazier. Although if she's now a 7 on the Hot axis and an 8 on the Crazy axis that would put her just over the line into the Danger Zone.
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