OT: New York Mets 2025-2026 Off Season Thread

RUEd

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Yes - but I am assuming you may be referring to a specific play this year.
All year. Noodle arm. Add the planter fasciitis, he was a big defensive liability.
while his numbers look decent, he mostly failed in big at bats.
 

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Well, I’m ok with him going but this is actually the first year he didn’t have a great OBP. You realize, he has always been known for his ability to get on base.
BTW- At .262 25 HR 92 RBI 13 SB
Give me the list of left fielders that did better…

his fielding did go downhill but almost everything else you mentioned is about as wrong as you can get at least for this year. His BA can go up and down but he has been pretty consistent with good power and run production
His OBP the last two years was in the .320s. it wasn't just last year.
 

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Mike Puma of Post reporting:

- Lindor and McNeil got into another spat last year.

- Lindor and Soto have a very frosty relationship. I sort of sensed this throughout the year.

Couldn’t read article because of paywall but Puma seems to indicate this assisted in dooming Mets season.
 
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Mike Puma of Post reporting:

- Lindor and McNeil got into another spat last year.

- Lindor and Soto have a very frosty relationship. I sort of sensed this throughout the year.

Couldn’t read article because of paywall but Puma seems to indicate this assisted in dooming Mets season.
A follow up article on a Mets fan site

Soto just wants to play ball and win , Soto feels Lindor is to into fashion

The source said, according to Puma: "Soto is very businesslike— all business, no fluff. He wants to come to the yard and work his tail off and win games. He's not into fashion or any of that stuff. Lindor is into that. It's just two different personalities."
 

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A follow up article on a Mets fan site

Soto just wants to play ball and win , Soto feels Lindor is to into fashion

The source said, according to Puma: "Soto is very businesslike— all business, no fluff. He wants to come to the yard and work his tail off and win games. He's not into fashion or any of that stuff. Lindor is into that. It's just two different personalities."
That is either a very petty thing to get into an issue with or it is someone making something out of nothing. It isn't like half of every professional team isn't into fashion. Or you hear of the guy who is making millions but owns a 10 y/o pickup truck vs the guy driving in with a Ferrari. Now, if they said that Soto doesn't like that it seems Lindor is more into looking good than playing good baseball- then it would make sense but if the frostiness is over how either one of them dresses. Sounds sort of BS to me.

And who cares if two teammates are best friends or not- Lindor/McNeil...just play good ball.
 

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I would add that Lindor fancies himself as the team leader, and Soto said that the de facto leader was Marte.

That said, all a big nothing IMHO.
 
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I would think if a player gets upset that another player likes a camera and dressing nicely, but both players play hard and practice hard- the dude that is upset is the issue.
could you imagine if he had to be on a team with Rickey…
BTW- also just think it is more about a writer stirring the pot.

now- McNeil/Lindor. Who knows but I doubt they go out to dinner together but who cares.
 

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Really good move here! Even better if we get Diaz back. He'll be much better in our park and really settled down after his bad month with the Yanks.
He couldn't handle NY. Truly a bum in the big spots.
 
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Your baseball comments are truly horrific. We don't need them here lol.
Sorry you are so sensitive. Unlike you, I watched almost every outing of DW last season. He sucked, especially when it mattered most.
 

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3 years 50 mil plus. Bit too hefty for my liking

Will like him better as set up guy to Diaz
 

Zak57

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Sorry you are so sensitive. Unlike you, I watched almost every outing of DW last season. He sucked, especially when it mattered most.
I watch and have so much more knowledge in baseball than you could ever hope.

You can not ever help yourself in making comments on things you think you know but you don't.
 
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I watch and have so much more knowledge in baseball than you could ever hope.

You can not ever help yourself in making comments on things you think you know but you don't.
So you watch all Yankees games? Good to know. Varsity envy? :)
 
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So, I hope to only remember Diaz’s first year in NY and hope for the same. Funny thing is- I put Diaz as the most likely to re-sign with us but this makes it look as Stearn does not want pre-Stearn players back.
good bye to Pete as well. Maybe the Lindor story was pushed internal as well so he can be pushed out as well.,,
 
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The Athletic (paywall) ran its annual list of the 10 worst MLB contracts. No Mets were listed, although Sean Manaea made honorable mention. One former Met made it, Javier Baez at #7.

Kris Bryant was #1.

It is odd that one of the greatest players of our era would be on this list, but there was Mike Trout at #3. He has regressed to "merely good", and has five years to regress further. A cautionary tale for a team like the Mets who signs guys to mega-contracts. Better win early in the duration of the contract, because in the back end you don't know what you're going to get.
 
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The Athletic (paywall) ran its annual list of the 10 worst MLB contracts. No Mets were listed, although Sean Manaea made honorable mention. One former Met made it, Javier Baez at #7.

Kris Bryant was #1.

It is odd that one of the greatest players of our era would be on this list, but there was Mike Trout at #3. He has regressed to "merely good", and has five years to regress further. A cautionary tale for a team like the Mets who signs guys to mega-contracts. Better win early in the duration of the contract, because in the back end you don't know what you're going to get.
Speaking of Trout - I know we all love him as he is a fairly local kid. And he had a great first 10 years. But...Am I the only one who wonders why he gets mentioned as one of the greatest ever? I think his defense helps but stat wise- he is not in the same universe as Pujols and if you look at the first 10 years- he only slightly eclipses a guy like David Wright.

I am not sure how they could judge the Manaea contract yet...but Montas should have been near the top.
 

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Speaking of Trout - I know we all love him as he is a fairly local kid. And he had a great first 10 years. But...Am I the only one who wonders why he gets mentioned as one of the greatest ever? I think his defense helps but stat wise- he is not in the same universe as Pujols and if you look at the first 10 years- he only slightly eclipses a guy like David Wright.

I am not sure how they could judge the Manaea contract yet...but Montas should have been near the top.
Over his first full 8 seasons, he was clearly the best player in baseball. That's a long time for such a "title". He led the league in tons and tons of stats - WAR, runs scored, OBP, Slug, OPS, numerous fielding. Even did so with SB, RBIs, and TBs. He was a roto dream player. Every bit as good at Pujols and David Wright wasn't even a patch on his fanny.

Now since 2020/2021 he's become an injury plagued mess. He's nowhere near the best player anymore and obviously shouldn't be in any conversions about greatest ever (unless it's a conversation about "what could've been"). Sad to see, but that's sports! Happens all the time.
 
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Over his first full 8 seasons, he was clearly the best player in baseball. That's a long time for such a "title". He led the league in tons and tons of stats - WAR, runs scored, OBP, Slug, OPS, numerous fielding. Even did so with SB, RBIs, and TBs. He was a roto dream player. Every bit as good at Pujols and David Wright wasn't even a patch on his fanny.

Now since 2020/2021 he's become an injury plagued mess. He's nowhere near the best player anymore and obviously shouldn't be in any conversions about greatest ever (unless it's a conversation about "what could've been"). Sad to see, but that's sports! Happens all the time.
While we do know that Trout was a better hitter that Wright- you would be surprised that it may not be as big of a gap over the first 10 years as you think. You mention that Trout was as good as Pujols- well, David Wright is closer to Trout than Trout is to Pujols over their first 10 years


Pujols AB 596 R 123 H 198 RBI 128 D 44 T 4 HR 42 SB 8 Ave .332 OPS 1.040
Trout AB 587 R 122 H 179 RBI 103 D 34 T 6 HR 39 SB 26 Ave .304 OPS .984
Wright AB 610 R 101 H 184 RBI 103 D 39 T 3 HR 26 SB 22 Ave .301 OPS .881
 

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While we do know that Trout was a better hitter that Wright- you would be surprised that it may not be as big of a gap over the first 10 years as you think. You mention that Trout was as good as Pujols- well, David Wright is closer to Trout than Trout is to Pujols over their first 10 years


Pujols AB 596 R 123 H 198 RBI 128 D 44 T 4 HR 42 SB 8 Ave .332 OPS 1.040
Trout AB 587 R 122 H 179 RBI 103 D 34 T 6 HR 39 SB 26 Ave .304 OPS .984
Wright AB 610 R 101 H 184 RBI 103 D 39 T 3 HR 26 SB 22 Ave .301 OPS .881
I see Trout neck and neck with Pujols based on those stats and Wright not even in the conversation. You forgot to add WAR for some reason. You should also highlight the times the player led the league in the top stats (Pujols = 19, Trout = 16, Wright = 0). Context matters.
 
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I see Trout neck and neck with Pujols based on those stats and Wright not even in the conversation. You forgot to add WAR for some reason. You should also highlight the times the player led the league in the top stats (Pujols = 19, Trout = 16, Wright = 0). Context matters.
I am a bit more old school and went with the stats I grew up with. You put a player up to the plate and does he hit or not.

Pujols is on a different planet. Trout is much better than Wright...But, how does each player do with the bat when they are up to hit...it is still Pijols/Trout/Wright but as I said- it is surprising that the batting stats of Wright were even closer than I would have thought until I looked them up.
 

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Sorry you are so sensitive. Unlike you, I watched almost every outing of DW last season. He sucked, especially when it mattered most.
I also watched every outing of Williams. Although he had a couple of stretches where he looked real good, overall his performance last season justifiably led many Yankees fans to groan when he came in from the bullpen.
He played himself out of the Bronx. Yankees fans would have cringed at the Bronx Bombers resigning him.
Maybe the Mets can correct his control of his fastball.
 
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I am a bit more old school and went with the stats I grew up with. You put a player up to the plate and does he hit or not.

Pujols is on a different planet. Trout is much better than Wright...But, how does each player do with the bat when they are up to hit...it is still Pijols/Trout/Wright but as I said- it is surprising that the batting stats of Wright were even closer than I would have thought until I looked them up.
Wright was clearly on the way to a HOF career (prior to the injuries), but Pujols and Trout were working on legendary status. Pujols got there, Trout might be a hair short unless we see a resurgence.
 
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I also watched every outing of Williams. Although he had a couple of stretches where he looked real good, overall his performance last season justifiably led many Yankees fans to groan when he came in from the bullpen.
He played himself out of the Bronx. Yankees fans would have cringed at the Bronx Bombers resigning him.
Maybe the Mets can correct his control of his fastball.
From the very beginning, DW looked overwhelmed. The Bronx was just too big for him. Unfortunately, it happens all the time.
 

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I watch and have so much more knowledge in baseball than you could ever hope.
Hah. Your modesty is impressive. Apparently your knowledge in humility not so much.
 
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